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Old 27-12-2013, 18:36
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Lame christmas fodder,as I expected.Let it lie,BBC!
Some people are criticising but yet not saying what they may have liked to have seen.?

There was plenty of much lamer fodder on in my view.
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Old 27-12-2013, 18:51
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It's weird to see David Jason looking so old now.

I've been watching him on TV since I was in primary school & now he's play 'grandad' parts!!!

It was good to see him though & it was a great return for Open All Hours.

Saying that, I hope they limit it to a one-off, or the odd Christmas special because I don't think there'd be enough mileage in recommissioning a brand new series of it.
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Old 27-12-2013, 18:52
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Massive rating for this show most watched of a Christmas so far.
Possibly people tuning in to see what it would be like. Doesn't mean they all enjoyed it.
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Old 27-12-2013, 19:08
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It's weird to see David Jason looking so old now.

I've been watching him on TV since I was in primary school & now he's play 'grandad' parts!!!

It was good to see him though & it was a great return for Open All Hours.

Saying that, I hope they limit it to a one-off, or the odd Christmas special because I don't think there'd be enough mileage in recommissioning a brand new series of it.
I know of somebody who said he should have worn a wig to cover up his thinning hair. Seriously! What is he expected to look like?? For a man of 73 vintage I don't think he's doing too badly!
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Old 27-12-2013, 19:08
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Those BARB rating devices should also have buttons for respondents to press AFTER a programme has finished: like, dislike or OK. That would be useful feedback to find out how popular a programme has been - not just how many people have viewed it. (eg, in this case, 9m may have viewed it out of curiosity, but only 4m may have liked it.)
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Old 27-12-2013, 19:19
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The real test of how well it went down would have been the viewing figure for the second episode had there been one. I doubt they would have got anywhere near 9 million if there was.
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Old 27-12-2013, 19:26
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I didn't think it would be that good but I was pleasantly surprised. I enjoyed it - loved the way Granville had morphed into Arkwright. A nice slow gentle comedy with some good characters.
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Old 27-12-2013, 19:28
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Just a shame that David Jason couldn't have worked harder on his accent. There were too many slips into Del Boy and frost voice which made me cringe. Not too bad though. 6/10.
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Old 27-12-2013, 19:46
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Hugely enjoyed it but don't think it would work as a new series. Now if they want to do continual reruns of the old series as they do for Dad's Army then I would watch them again and again.
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Old 27-12-2013, 20:00
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The real test of how well it went down would have been the viewing figure for the second episode had there been one. I doubt they would have got anywhere near 9 million if there was.
Plenty of Glass Half Empty posters on here tonight i see.

Second guessing viewing figures for a 2nd episode is a bit desperate.
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Old 27-12-2013, 20:41
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Well, I liked it - it managed to make me laugh out loud a few times which not many "modern" comedies make me do. And just wonderful to see the picture of Arkwright/Barker in the back room - made me remember just what a brilliant comic actor he was.
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Old 27-12-2013, 21:21
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I did find myself wishing he would just be Granville and stop trying to be Arkwright but it made me smile lots; I loved the old fashioned feel and I loled at the anchovy paste treatment!!

And Stephanie Cole's launch at Granville haha.
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Old 27-12-2013, 21:28
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I did find myself wishing he would just be Granville and stop trying to be Arkwright but it made me smile lots; I loved the old fashioned feel and I loled at the anchovy paste treatment!!

And Stephanie Cole's launch at Granville haha.
You can't have Open All Hours without that Arkwright type older character in it though, it's central theme was old shopkeeper v young errand boy.

I'm just amazed it worked anywhere near as well as it did without Ronnie Barker, so I think David Jason did a very good job with it. Still not sure there could be a series worth of material in it though.
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Old 27-12-2013, 22:03
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Plenty of Glass Half Empty posters on here tonight i see.

Second guessing viewing figures for a 2nd episode is a bit desperate.
Oh dear.
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Old 27-12-2013, 22:09
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Are there any corner shops still left? particularly non Asian ones.?
Well there is one by me, yes it has a built in post office but it is run by a family that have ran it for years. It certainly has that vibe of a corner hop in the late 70s/80s
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Old 27-12-2013, 22:29
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I watched it this afternoon. I thought it was OK but as expected it didn't quite live up to the original. A full series would be nice but it would need to be better than this was for it to work. It was a nice effort though.
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Old 27-12-2013, 22:30
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Well, I liked it - it managed to make me laugh out loud a few times which not many "modern" comedies make me do. And just wonderful to see the picture of Arkwright/Barker in the back room - made me remember just what a brilliant comic actor he was.
Me too, I thought it was good viewing, lots of good characters in it.
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Old 27-12-2013, 22:43
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I thought that it was just OK. No more than that.
I found the very loud canned laughter very annoying.

I would like to see a new series in the hope that it would work, but they must reduce that damn canned laughter.

Very few first shows are outstanding but they can improve as the cast gel and they adjust the characters slightly.

Overall, it was a nice gentle easy view except for the canned laughter.
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Old 27-12-2013, 22:50
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I found it OK as a one off.....couple of reasons..one very big thing missing..Ronnie Barker..and secondly..he may be a National Treasure but David Jason has not aged well at all in my opinion, would have expected every customer to have asked him why he hasn't retired yet
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Old 27-12-2013, 23:44
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I thought that it was just OK. No more than that.
I found the very loud canned laughter very annoying.

I would like to see a new series in the hope that it would work, but they must reduce that damn canned laughter.

Very few first shows are outstanding but they can improve as the cast gel and they adjust the characters slightly.

Overall, it was a nice gentle easy view except for the canned laughter.
A few people made some canned laughter comments.

Watching the documentary on it that was on this afternoon, it noted the show was in fact filmed in front of a live studio audience in Manchester, and that the location scenes were shown to them there for their reaction.

So the laughter wasn't canned, as some claimed when they were criticising the show.
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Old 28-12-2013, 02:58
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This just felt like his awful Last of the Summer Wine but featuring David Jason.

Clarke was very lucky with his main cast members in both Open All Hours and Keeping Up Appearances. Ronnie Barker and Patricia Routeledge were legendary in their roles and the reason those shows were any good.
It is often cast members that make a show-that's the point: good casting. Hence why Open All Hours and Keeping Up Appearances were excellent. The same goes for Last Of The Summer Wine-great casting of Bill Owen, Peter Sallis and Brian Wilde. How you can call Summer Wine awful is beyond me.
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Old 28-12-2013, 07:14
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Possibly people tuning in to see what it would be like. Doesn't mean they all enjoyed it.
Indeed, this programme was so well advertised/hyped up during the run up to Christmas, it was bound to get good viewing figures, but as you say of those millions who tuned in, how many actually thought it was really good?

I only saw it last night, it was OK, not up to the hype that surrounded it I dont think, certainly not enough to sustain a new series, but that is just my view.

Not sure if Mark Williams or Johnny Vegas added anything to it either !

As you say there was a studio audience, but of course they could have 'added' extra laughter as well, simply by usiing the track recorded at the studio recording . (not saying they did tho!!)
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Old 28-12-2013, 07:26
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A few people made some canned laughter comments.

Watching the documentary on it that was on this afternoon, it noted the show was in fact filmed in front of a live studio audience in Manchester, and that the location scenes were shown to them there for their reaction.

So the laughter wasn't canned, as some claimed when they were criticising the show.
Some people just like to slag off any sitcom with a laugh track and deride it as "canned laughter". Probably the same people who find the laughter free (in every sense) "comedies" by the likes of Ricky Gervais funny.
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Old 28-12-2013, 07:40
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But you can't make it different that's the point, nostalgia, there were pleasant nods to the old series,


If you read the thread people liked the impression of Ronnie Bsrker.
I think that was the problem - It was a bunch of nods to what had gone before and a "trying too hard to bring it up to date" feel.

Maybe the original series was just as dull, I seem to recall it was but I found it boring.
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Old 28-12-2013, 07:58
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Spot on,perhaps all those that did not like it checked their TV booklet to find out where the off switch was.

9 million odd people watching cannot all be wrong.
Did all 9m have the same view? It doesn't seem like that from the small sample here. Plus, you have to consider that there was absolutely nothing else on at the time.
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