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Tablet doesn`t support flash
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Lt. Dang
11-01-2014
Originally Posted by Peter_CJ:
“Which version and edition of android are you running?”

I'm running Jelly Bean 4.2.1 and the standard stock browser.
Flash seems to work fine?

Regards,

Lt. Dang
BrokenArrow
11-01-2014
Originally Posted by Peter_CJ:
“HTML 5 is the new technology, but a lot of sites have yet to catch up with it.”

Their is no central gatekeeper for HTML 5 like there is for flash, so it has all the same problems as HTML4 ie content may work on one browser but not on another.
Peter_CJ
12-01-2014
Originally Posted by BrokenArrow:
“Their is no central gatekeeper for HTML 5 like there is for flash, so it has all the same problems as HTML4 ie content may work on one browser but not on another.”

I think it was a big mistake dropping support for flash on android 4+, but according to one of the google techs I spoke with, it was something they didn't anticipate a problem with??? The guy I spoke to was an experience ex Microsoft tech who had moved to google, and he kind of suggested google were not exactly on top of developments in android.

My previous tablet ran on 4.1, and flash worked fine.

I'd be happy to have 4.1 on my Nexus 7.2, but they told me rooting it will void the warranty.

I tried Puffin, Dolphin, etc, but found Firefox beta worked the best.
Voynich
12-01-2014
Originally Posted by Peter_CJ:
“I think it was a big mistake dropping support for flash on android 4+, but according to one of the google techs I spoke with, it was something they didn't anticipate a problem with??? The guy I spoke to was an experience ex Microsoft tech who had moved to google, and he kind of suggested google were not exactly on top of developments in android.

My previous tablet ran on 4.1, and flash worked fine.

I'd be happy to have 4.1 on my Nexus 7.2, but they told me rooting it will void the warranty.

I tried Puffin, Dolphin, etc, but found Firefox beta worked the best.”

It's Adobe who stopped supporting android.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/28/a...n-android-4-1/

Google can't force Adobe to keep developing for it.
Peter_CJ
12-01-2014
Originally Posted by Voynich:
“It's Adobe who stopped supporting android.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/28/a...n-android-4-1/

Google can't force Adobe to keep developing for it.”

They could have just bought out Adobe, and then carried on with flash support. Obvious I would have thought!

Or, rolled out the Nexus with 4.1 installed with the option to upgrade to 4.3 - giving users the option of using flash if required.

My tablet came with 4.2 installed with an automatic update to 4.3 as soon as it connected to the net.

From what I saw of it, they got into a panic over the problems with 4.2. and were so focussed on replacing it with 4.3 that they overlooked the 4.1 with flash, or upgrade to 4.3, option.

LG retained 4.1 on some of their tablets - I hear LG are being considered for production of future Nexus tablets.

We await the Kit-Kat upgrade next - which comes with mixed reviews.
Coz21
15-01-2014
Originally Posted by Deacon1972:
“My Archos 80 always informed me flash was not supported for this particular device, I looked into it further and found that even though it had been removed from the app store I could still download it from Adobes archive flash versions page, works a treat - might be worth investigating....

http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1061194”

Thank you very much for that. I have downloaded it and it works
Peter_CJ
15-01-2014
An update on my previous post re having had some success with Firefox Beta using flash with android 4.3.1 on a Nexus 7.2

This morning I found my Nexus 7.2 was off, which is unusual because I always just close the case which puts it into stand-by. As soon as I switched on, an update started loading for the Firefox Beta browser.

The result being that Firefox no longer works with flash player.

I then found a downloaded update for android, and so clicked on the install button which took the O/S from 4.3.1 to 4.3.2.

After which I find flash player won't work with anything - I had previously had some success with the FlashFox browser (which hadn't been as good as the standard android beta Firefox browser) however, I now find that doesn't work at all.

I telephoned google technical support and got to speak to someone whose English was pretty poor, and the line was bad. Eventually I managed to explain the problem to her, and sounding quite surprised, she said she didn't know the answer to my question but would look on the computer. After a few minutes she came back and said she couldn't find anything about flash-player! So that was that.

Not to be defeated too soon, I redialed in the hope of getting another "helper", and this time I got someone who had good English and understood what I was on about, but said that she hadn't heard of any problems running flash player on android 4.3.

Without sounding sarky, I confirmed with her that I had come through to technical support - she said I had.

After I explained all the various things I have tried, and the success I had had with Firefox prior to updating, she said she would ask a colleague. She came back a few minutes later with: "adobe no longer support android for flash-player". Which I had mentioned at the beginning of the convo when saying I was hoping to find a work-around.

I'm now contemplating buying an older Nexus 7 with 4.1 on to use with flash-player applications.

I have previously tried Puffin, Dolphin, Photon, Ocean, and a few others linked with running flash-player, but none of them would work for me.

Good as the asus hardware is, I don't think I will buying anything with google's name on it in the future.

So if you have managed to get flash-player working on your Nexus 7.2, whatever you do, don't update anything.

google technical support did tell me that once updated you can't roll back the changes - how great is that!
omnidirectional
15-01-2014
Just out of interest, what exactly do you still need Flash player for?

Someone mentioned playing Facebook videos earlier in the thread, but the Facebook app plays videos without Flash.
killjoy
15-01-2014
Need it for VirginMedia Anywhere
Coz21
15-01-2014
Originally Posted by omnidirectional:
“Just out of interest, what exactly do you still need Flash player for?

Someone mentioned playing Facebook videos earlier in the thread, but the Facebook app plays videos without Flash.”

Oh I wish I'd have known that before. I haven't even tried the facebook app, I've just been logging in the normal way. What does the facebook app do that the normal version doesn't? What are the advantages of using the facebook app, apart from being able to watch videos?
BrokenArrow
15-01-2014
Wow! the latest Flash for Windows is amazing

Flash for Windows
Roush
15-01-2014
Originally Posted by Peter_CJ:
“An update on my previous post re having had some success with Firefox Beta using flash with android 4.3.1 on a Nexus 7.2

<snip>”

A couple of questions:

1. Adobe Flash Player for Android is a third party product (created by Adobe). It's not Google's product and no Nexus device has ever had it preinstalled. Why would you expect Google to try to help you get it working?

2. Adobe Flash Player for Android is an unsupported discontinued product. Why are you expecting the technical support team from any company to help you with it?
Peter_CJ
15-01-2014
Originally Posted by Roush:
“A couple of questions:

1. Adobe Flash Player for Android is a third party product (created by Adobe). It's not Google's product and no Nexus device has ever had it preinstalled. Why would you expect Google to try to help you get it working?

2. Adobe Flash Player for Android is an unsupported discontinued product. Why are you expecting the technical support team from any company to help you with it?”

You're not telling me anything I didn't know already.

Nexus 7.1 came with android 4.1, which would run flash-player, so you are wrong on that point.

Millions of website still require flash-player, and if you read my post properly, you will have seen that at one point I had establised flash-player on 4.3.1

There are often work-arounds for these things, and I would expect anyone working for google technical support to at least be aware of the issues - it is an issue raised on nearly every android support site on the net, for one thing.

Again, had you read my post with any degree of interest (other than looking for something to nit-pick over) you would have seen that I was hoping they might say the update could be rolled back.

If you have anything helpful to say, I'd be glad to read your comments, otherwise, I suggest you pick nits elsewhere. I get the impression that you actually know very little about the subject.
CABINET
16-01-2014
I wanted to listen to Radio Four last week and was sure that (since I don't need to see moving images) I would be able to but no - I get the same message about my device not being supported that I get when I want to watch BBC Iplayer .
Peter_CJ
16-01-2014
Originally Posted by CABINET:
“I wanted to listen to Radio Four last week and was sure that (since I don't need to see moving images) I would be able to but no - I get the same message about my device not being supported that I get when I want to watch BBC Iplayer .”

Have you got BBC Media Player installed?

If not, uninstall BBC iPlayer, install Media Player, then reinstall iPlayer.

You don't need Flash-Player for either of those.
CABINET
17-01-2014
Originally Posted by Peter_CJ:
“Have you got BBC Media Player installed?

If not, uninstall BBC iPlayer, install Media Player, then reinstall iPlayer.

You don't need Flash-Player for either of those.”

Yes both of those are installed on my tablet.
johnathome
17-01-2014
Originally Posted by Peter_CJ:
“Have you got BBC Media Player installed?

If not, uninstall BBC iPlayer, install Media Player, then reinstall iPlayer.

You don't need Flash-Player for either of those.”

According to the BBC help pages you do?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/help/7277283.stm

http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.u.../flash_upgrade
omnidirectional
17-01-2014
Originally Posted by Coz21:
“Oh I wish I'd have known that before. I haven't even tried the facebook app, I've just been logging in the normal way. What does the facebook app do that the normal version doesn't? What are the advantages of using the facebook app, apart from being able to watch videos?”

The Facebook app is specifically designed for use on tablets/phones rather than the actual website. It's easier to navigate and see requests/messages etc with less scrolling around. I don't use Facebook anymore but that's how I remember it. Many popular websites have apps which are generally nicer to use than accessing the site through the browser, it's something DigitalSpy should consider too.
omnidirectional
17-01-2014
Originally Posted by johnathome:
“According to the BBC help pages you do?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/help/7277283.stm

http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.u.../flash_upgrade”

They must be old pages as you don't need Flash for BBC iPlayer on Android. You just need the iPlayer app and the BBC Media Player app.

There's more about the BBC Media Player and the move away from Flash at: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/internet/...roid_phones_ta

But again, if someone tries to access iPlayer via the browser instead of using the app it may not work as expected.
Peter_CJ
17-01-2014
Originally Posted by omnidirectional:
“They must be old pages as you don't need Flash for BBC iPlayer on Android. You just need the iPlayer app and the BBC Media Player app.

There's more about the BBC Media Player and the move away from Flash at: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/internet/...roid_phones_ta

But again, if someone tries to access iPlayer via the browser instead of using the app it may not work as expected.”


That's the BBC for you.
Lt. Dang
17-01-2014
Originally Posted by omnidirectional:
“They must be old pages as you don't need Flash for BBC iPlayer on Android. You just need the iPlayer app and the BBC Media Player app.

There's more about the BBC Media Player and the move away from Flash at: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/internet/...roid_phones_ta

But again, if someone tries to access iPlayer via the browser instead of using the app it may not work as expected.”

Tried accessing iPlayer drectly from the website and it plays back fine on my Android tablet. Seems to behave almost exactly the same as the dedicated Android app?

Regards,

Lt. Dang
CABINET
18-01-2014
I was trying to access BBC through my browser. It is working using the app so thanks for the help.
Coz21
18-01-2014
Originally Posted by omnidirectional:
“The Facebook app is specifically designed for use on tablets/phones rather than the actual website. It's easier to navigate and see requests/messages etc with less scrolling around. I don't use Facebook anymore but that's how I remember it. Many popular websites have apps which are generally nicer to use than accessing the site through the browser, it's something DigitalSpy should consider too.”

Thanks. I thought I already had it on my tablet, but can't see it now. I must have just seen it on play store. Anyway, if I were to get it, do you just have to log into it once and then you can access it by touching it and not logging in? Or can you set it so you have to log into the app everytime? As its a shared tablet I don't want to stay logged in.
davor
18-01-2014
Install Photon Browser.
Coz21
19-01-2014
Originally Posted by davor:
“Install Photon Browser.”

Who, me? What's that?
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