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Old 28-12-2013, 07:16
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Most of all the new act on MTV and BBC sound 2014 look crap.
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Old 28-12-2013, 10:20
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Most of all the new act on MTV and BBC sound 2014 look crap.
I never pay attention to those 'new acts of 2014' shows though.
I prefer to wait and see.
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Old 28-12-2013, 10:46
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Spot on PJ1893. There's usually one act on those lists, like a Adele or a Ellie Goulding that will go on to much greater things but, generally, I find those lists to be sh*te. They just reflect that the people picking the acts are toffie nosed Guardian reading middle class people who revel in putting together lists of obscurities and borderline bland M.O.R.

Who will actually go on to do great things across the year will probably be someone the music establishment hasn't heard of or didn't want to endorse because they didn't fit their Guardian readers remit.
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Old 28-12-2013, 14:07
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I thought 2013 was great personally, at least in comparison to the few years before it.

I think 2014 will be another great year, but those who are fans of the pop girls probably won't like it. Pure dance-pop music is struggling in the industry right now. Pitbull - Timber and Avicii - Hey Brother are the only pure pop songs big right now. I guess using folk/country influences in songs will be the best way to go...

Spot on PJ1893. There's usually one act on those lists, like a Adele or a Ellie Goulding that will go on to much greater things but, generally, I find those lists to be sh*te. They just reflect that the people picking the acts are toffie nosed Guardian reading middle class people who revel in putting together lists of obscurities and borderline bland M.O.R.

Who will actually go on to do great things across the year will probably be someone the music establishment hasn't heard of or didn't want to endorse because they didn't fit their Guardian readers remit.
There'll probably be more of the urban house artists getting in the charts. Like Route 94, Gorgon City, MK, GotSome, Ali Love, Kove, etc.

But realistically, they can't have too many artists on those lists, since they're not seen as "credible" by the older generations. They just want a white guy with a guitar singing rock or adult contemporary.
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Old 28-12-2013, 14:27
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Yes, because the only people who are going to release anything are on a list produced by the BBC and MTV.

Jesus wept, look elsewhere then, or look at some of the existing bands you like because I,m sure at least one of them will be releasing something next year!
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Old 28-12-2013, 15:47
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What thewaywardbus said.
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Old 28-12-2013, 15:59
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Yes, if you judge your music by MTV or BBC; but if you think outside the box and look elsewhere, you will see some really great music.

Get out to your local bars and clubs and support local bands/artists instead of bitching about what other people say you should listen to.
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Old 28-12-2013, 16:43
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With Nadezha and Maria out of prison I was hoping for a new album from Pussy Riot but probably too political for DS listeners?*
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Old 28-12-2013, 17:53
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With Nadezha and Maria out of prison I was hoping for a new album from Pussy Riot but probably too political for DS listeners?*
Same...They've recently said that they're abandoning Pussy Riot to set up a human rights organisation.

I don't think a record has been mentioned unfortunately...
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Old 28-12-2013, 17:57
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London Grammar didn't come into prominence until mid 2013 really and they have been one of the most successful new UK acts!

My advice would be to avoid these 'hype lists' and focus on these acts in the new year (new and old):

Angel Olsen
St Vincent

Kyla La Grange
Wardell
Lykke Li
ArthurBeatrice
Marika Hackman
Metronomy
Jessica Pratt
Warpaint
Kelela
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Old 29-12-2013, 00:03
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Yes, if you judge your music by MTV or BBC; but if you think outside the box and look elsewhere, you will see some really great music.

Get out to your local bars and clubs and support local bands/artists instead of bitching about what other people say you should listen to.
It's a noble idea and there is a vast amount of underground and alternative music around much of which even the connoisseurs on DS know little about. However, pop music only has meaning if it reaches and is listened to by a critical mass of people. Otherwise how do you judge it?
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Old 29-12-2013, 09:59
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are we slagging 2014 off before it has even started now?
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Old 29-12-2013, 10:35
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It's a noble idea and there is a vast amount of underground and alternative music around much of which even the connoisseurs on DS know little about. However, pop music only has meaning if it reaches and is listened to by a critical mass of people. Otherwise how do you judge it?
How about judging things on your own standards without having to hear what other people think before you make up your mind.

The OP said music, not pop music anyway!
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Old 29-12-2013, 12:38
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It's a noble idea and there is a vast amount of underground and alternative music around much of which even the connoisseurs on DS know little about. However, pop music only has meaning if it reaches and is listened to by a critical mass of people. Otherwise how do you judge it?
Music is a personal thing. I judge it by my own standards and by the amount of enjoyment I get from it.
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Old 29-12-2013, 13:51
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How about judging things on your own standards without having to hear what other people think before you make up your mind.

The OP said music, not pop music anyway!
Music is a personal thing. I judge it by my own standards and by the amount of enjoyment I get from it.
Because that's not how we evaluate things.

You will never be able to hear all the music produced in a year or any other time span for that matter. It has to be filtered by the production process, the accessibility of the product/service, the recommendations of others and indeed your own self filtering/prejudices/taste whatever you want to call them.
We don't exist in a universe of pure individual choice, music is always mediated in some way,
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Old 29-12-2013, 14:20
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When you consider how much great music has been written over the best part of the last hundred years and is still available, I can't understand why anyone might be concerned about what might be coming in 2014.
I'll guarantee this much, whatever it is, most of it will be forgettable.
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Old 29-12-2013, 17:22
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Because that's not how we evaluate things.

You will never be able to hear all the music produced in a year or any other time span for that matter. It has to be filtered by the production process, the accessibility of the product/service, the recommendations of others and indeed your own self filtering/prejudices/taste whatever you want to call them.
We don't exist in a universe of pure individual choice, music is always mediated in some way,
I think I would rather trust my own interests and judgement over that of a corporate record label executive whose only interest is making money. If I relied on the opinions of those in the business or on radio then I would never hear the music I do.
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Old 29-12-2013, 20:47
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I think I would rather trust my own interests and judgement over that of a corporate record label executive whose only interest is making money. If I relied on the opinions of those in the business or on radio then I would never hear the music I do.
I agree.

Of course you get influences from many people and the media but ultimately it is music I enjoy that I buy. I certainly wouldn't look towards a list chosen by "taste makers" as any recommendation or guide as they are invariably totally unaware the genres I like even exist.

For me 2013 was another cracking year for music and I'm already looking forward to 2014.
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Old 29-12-2013, 20:57
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^^^^ this, I discovered a lot of new stuff this year that was great, thanks to some on here and actually seeking stuff out.
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Old 29-12-2013, 21:04
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I agree.

Of course you get influences from many people and the media but ultimately it is music I enjoy that I buy. I certainly wouldn't look towards a list chosen by "taste makers" as any recommendation or guide as they are invariably totally unaware the genres I like even exist.

For me 2013 was another cracking year for music and I'm already looking forward to 2014.
Put much better than mine

Roll on 2014, gonna be a cracker.
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Old 29-12-2013, 21:19
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I think I would rather trust my own interests and judgement over that of a corporate record label executive whose only interest is making money. If I relied on the opinions of those in the business or on radio then I would never hear the music I do.
Why do you think record execs are so different from yourself?
And why wouldn't execs or music writers who hear far more music than any of us know a little about what's good?

I agree.

Of course you get influences from many people and the media but ultimately it is music I enjoy that I buy. I certainly wouldn't look towards a list chosen by "taste makers" as any recommendation or guide as they are invariably totally unaware the genres I like even exist.

For me 2013 was another cracking year for music and I'm already looking forward to 2014.
If it's just about music you enjoy, how would you know if 2013 is any good?
All you are talking about is your own journey, what's that got to do with quality?
Your taste might be rubbish, I don't know. I've only your word for it.
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Old 29-12-2013, 21:27
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If it's just about music you enjoy, how would you know if 2013 is any good?
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But every year is just about the music WE enjoy, the ops original statement will have been based on the music that THEY enjoy. If you didn't enjoy music this year does not mean I can't enjoy music this year
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Old 29-12-2013, 22:07
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But every year is just about the music WE enjoy, the ops original statement will have been based on the music that THEY enjoy. If you didn't enjoy music this year does not mean I can't enjoy music this year
The OP was asking about whether 2014 would be another crap year for music, which is probably so widely stated that it may even be rhetorical! But I thought it might be making reference in a circumlocutionary way to the perceived decline in the quality of music ( and pop music in particular) over the last decade? Or perhaps just compared to 2013?

However, if it's just about will I enjoy music in 2014 as much or as little as I have enjoyed it in 2013, well who knows? Dull question really.
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Old 29-12-2013, 22:34
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If it's just about music you enjoy, how would you know if 2013 is any good?
All you are talking about is your own journey, what's that got to do with quality?
Your taste might be rubbish, I don't know. I've only your word for it.
So I guess you're saying that it's not possible to measure the 'quality' of a year's music since no one can listen to all the music released in a year? Or that you can't measure music 'quality' anyway as it's all just down to personal taste?

All very philosophical but a tad tiresome. Like others, I prefer to simply enjoy and rate music on my own terms rather than concerning myself with what other people think. I don't think you need to turn music into an intellectual exercise all the time. It's not really the way to enjoy it imo.
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Old 29-12-2013, 23:41
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Let's face it - this song is better than anything from next year!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lqctm_50Gfg



I look forward to the 2014 dance remix.
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