iPhone 5s Named Best Phone of 2013 in DS Readers Pole

anyonefortennis · 30-12-2013, 10:34

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Bluetooth connectivity, USB connectivity, GPS connectivity.

Yes, its often connects to other iDevices fine (proprietary).
In the flesh it is so underwhelming.

I did a like for like comparison with a friend who has the HTC One and I was able to connect to the internet and other services like GPS locations faster than him. His phone took ages to load and the flicking from page to page was very laggy and juddery on his phone. My 5s was much smoother. The screen resolution was much better on my 5s also compared to his HTC One. The colours on his phone looked very dark and faded compared to mine. The sound from the speakers wasn't that much different either even though he was boasting how the speakers on the HTC One were the best. He was not pleased. I didn't rub it in though. Well maybe a little.

All these better specs look great on paper but when you do a physical comparison between these phones, it usually tells a different story.

alanwarwic · 30-12-2013, 10:55

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Originally Posted by anyonefortennis

I did a like for like comparison with a friend ...

Extremely unlikely. I would certainly fail at managing that.

And the iPhone has near enough the lowest resolution of any so called high end phone.
Even the Moto G beats it.

anyonefortennis · 30-12-2013, 10:56

Readers pole?

: I've only just noticed that it should be readers poll. DURRRRR.

kidspud · 30-12-2013, 10:57

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Originally Posted by alanwarwic

Limited connectivity, low screen resolution, small screen.
(yes we could debate 'small screen' just like 'walled garden')

It has none of them. Your focus on specs seems to imply that you have little interest in device usability. That might explain your endless list of strange comments.

Anika Hanson · 30-12-2013, 11:02

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Originally Posted by anyonefortennis

I did a like for like comparison with a friend who has the HTC One and I was able to connect to the internet and other services like GPS locations faster than him. His phone took ages to load and the flicking from page to page was very laggy and juddery on his phone. My 5s was much smoother. The screen resolution was much better on my 5s also compared to his HTC One. The colours on his phone looked very dark and faded compared to mine. The sound from the speakers wasn't that much different either even though he was boasting how the speakers on the HTC One were the best. He was not pleased. I didn't rub it in though. Well maybe a little.

All these better specs look great on paper but when you do a physical comparison between these phones, it usually tells a different story.

Hmmm. Some of the things you talk about, like the 5S being faster and smoother I can readily believe. However saying that the 5S has a better screen and that it has similar speakers I cannot. You're telling a few fibs here aren't you

anyonefortennis · 30-12-2013, 11:06

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Originally Posted by Anika Hanson

Hmmm. Some of the things you talk about, like the 5S being faster and smoother I can readily believe. However saying that the 5S has a better screen and that it has similar speakers I cannot. You're telling a few fibs here aren't you

No actually I'm not. When we put the phones side by side and tested them, my screen was much brighter and clearer than his. His screen looked duller and the images looked paler/ faded compared to mine. Then he started showing off about how amazing his speakers were so we put on the same piece of music and did a comparison. And honestly, hand on heart, there wasn't that big a difference. And I am very particular about sound quality.

I was very surprised after hearing all the rave reviews about how amazing the speakers are on the HTC One and what a difference they make at the front of the phone.

alanwarwic · 30-12-2013, 11:29

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Originally Posted by kidspud

It has none of them. Your focus on specs seems to imply that you have little interest in device usability. That might explain your endless list of strange comments.

Usability relies on specs.

And how about advancing the discussion rather than going with your very dodgy politics. Its getting as dull the brightness set to low on a HTC One.

Anika Hanson · 30-12-2013, 11:37

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Originally Posted by alanwarwic

Usability relies on specs.

And how about advancing the discussion rather than going with your very dodgy politics. Its getting as dull the brightness set to low on a HTC One.

Maybe for android but specs aren't everything on iOS devices. I've got 2 iOS devices, both have dual core processors and both run buttery smooth. Now I have 3 android devices, 2 have quad core processors and run perfectly fine. The third has a dual core processor and lags on occasion. The experience isn't as pleasant as my other devices.

kidspud · 30-12-2013, 12:37

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Originally Posted by alanwarwic

Usability relies on specs.

And how about advancing the discussion rather than going with your very dodgy politics. Its getting as dull the brightness set to low on a HTC One.

What debate?

The results of a reader poll put the iPhone 5s top.

The only debates appears to be one person questioning the results (although it is not clear to me what was being implied), and your silly comment about basic specs.

I assume the reason the iPhone came top is because apple provide a quality product which does everything the user wants very well for the price charged. That is my experience with the iPad, and I've no reason to doubt it with the phone. Over 50% of the readers seem to agree.

swordman · 30-12-2013, 12:41

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Originally Posted by Anika Hanson

Maybe for android but specs aren't everything on iOS devices. I've got 2 iOS devices, both have dual core processors and both run buttery smooth. Now I have 3 android devices, 2 have quad core processors and run perfectly fine. The third has a dual core processor and lags on occasion. The experience isn't as pleasant as my other devices.

This is what i find hard to believe when people talk about ios devices. I have 2 ipad 2's and frequently they are dog rough in terms of performance. Granted they are not new devices and could be considered to be showing their age, but this buttery smooth claim for all ios devices is a large exaggeration.

Anika Hanson · 30-12-2013, 12:46

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Originally Posted by swordman

This is what i find hard to believe when people talk about ios devices. I have 2 ipad 2's and frequently they are dog rough in terms of performance. Granted they are not new devices and could be considered to be showing their age, but this buttery smooth claim for all ios devices is a large exaggeration.

I probably don't tax them enough. My best device in terms of speed and fluidity at the moment is my S4.

Overall id rank my devices like this

1) S4
2) ipad mini (2012)
3) Nexus 7 2012
4) ipod touch 5th gen

5) Galaxy tab 2 10.1

alan1302 · 30-12-2013, 13:08

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Originally Posted by alanwarwic

Usability relies on specs.

And how about advancing the discussion rather than going with your very dodgy politics. Its getting as dull the brightness set to low on a HTC One.

How about you advancing the discussion for a change?

qasdfdsaq · 30-12-2013, 15:46

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Originally Posted by Resonance

Must be a massive coin pocket. The ones in my jeans must be about 3 inches deep and 2 inches wide and I take a lot bigger waste than 30 inches

The ones in my jeans, work trousers, dress trousers, and suit jacket are all just under 3 inches wide... Only phone I've not been able to fit in them was the Note 2.

finbaar · 31-12-2013, 18:22

Using my nephew's iPhone 5 to post this. God iOS is crap compared to Android. It is so hard to do anything.

jonner101 · 31-12-2013, 18:46

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Originally Posted by Stiggles

Wrong.

In my opinion did you forget to add there?

I think personally these days, the iphone is far to small screen wise. I wish apple would bin that fantastically big bezel and increase the screen size within the same package. I have a Nexus 5 with a 5" screen and its superb. Still slides nicely into my shirt pocket when at work.

Just to add, i do not believe these numbers DS has pulled out on this poll!

Why not, why would they make it up.

iOS users don't bother posting on this forum much because they immediately get called an idiot by people like yourself if they say anything positive about an Apple device.

places like xda and macrumors have much better tech forums for rational debate.

BT@home · 31-12-2013, 19:01

I would Guess it won simply because more ds users have one? Surely faced with such a vote the majority of people would vote for their own phone? Why would you vote for a phone that you don't actually own as best phone, unless you chose a very cheap phone?

qasdfdsaq · 01-01-2014, 01:51

Because with the prevalence of 24-month contracts not everyone can get a new phone ever 3 months, but might still want one?

qasdfdsaq · 01-01-2014, 03:09

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Originally Posted by jonner101

places like xda and macrumors have much better tech forums for rational debate.

Arbitrary personal preferences aren't usually the best subject matter for rational debate.

adi_carnat · 01-01-2014, 03:20

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Originally Posted by anyonefortennis

56.5% of over 22,600 votes.

[url]http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tech/news/a540230/iphone-5s-named-best-phone-ipad-air-is-best-tablet-in-2013-reader-poll.html[/url1. iPhone 5S - 56.5%

2. Samsung Galaxy S4 - 19.8%
3. HTC One - 6.3%
4. Nokia Lumia 1020 - 5.1%
5. Sony Xperia Z1 - 4.5%

Quite strange because the pole I voted on the 5s and HTC One were practically neck and neck a few days ago.

a ios device cannot be best in any way than anything else. stupid pool. gs4 , lg g2 or htc one are superior phones anyway you look at it.

UserXYZ · 01-01-2014, 05:18

User polls are useless, the poll results just end up reflecting market share. From what I can see of a lot of online tech publications, the HTC One is the best phone. Unfortunately some really important apps for me are only available on the app store so I have to use an iphone 5s, otherwise I'd get an HTC One.

finbaar · 01-01-2014, 10:33

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Originally Posted by anyonefortennis

I did a like for like comparison with a friend who has the HTC One and I was able to connect to the internet and other services like GPS locations faster than him. His phone took ages to load and the flicking from page to page was very laggy and juddery on his phone. My 5s was much smoother. The screen resolution was much better on my 5s also compared to his HTC One. The colours on his phone looked very dark and faded compared to mine. The sound from the speakers wasn't that much different either even though he was boasting how the speakers on the HTC One were the best. He was not pleased. I didn't rub it in though. Well maybe a little.

All these better specs look great on paper but when you do a physical comparison between these phones, it usually tells a different story.

You can have all the other points about the 5s vs the H1 but you are obviously lying about the screens. No one putting those two devices side by side would choose the 5s as having the better screen. The H1 has a noticeably higher resolution and much more natural colours. The fact that you claim otherwise casts doubt on your whole post.

jwball · 01-01-2014, 11:08

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Originally Posted by finbaar

Using my nephew's iPhone 5 to post this. God iOS is crap compared to Android. It is so hard to do anything.

How strange. You sign in to a forum on a phone which doesn't belong to you, then complain it's hard to use and post a reply with no problems. I own both and would say iOS is marginally easier to use, but both are certainly not difficult at all.

The Sack · 01-01-2014, 11:48

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Originally Posted by jonner101

places like xda and macrumors have much better tech forums for rational debate.

Cobblers, XDA is one of the worst moderated places on the planet, don't agree with what's being said or dare to repeat something and its removed or locked with an efficiency a communist state would be proud of.

Well done The iPhone 5s but ill stick with my Nexus devices tar.

anyonefortennis · 01-01-2014, 13:20

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Originally Posted by finbaar

You can have all the other points about the 5s vs the H1 but you are obviously lying about the screens. No one putting those two devices side by side would choose the 5s as having the better screen. The H1 has a noticeably higher resolution and much more natural colours. The fact that you claim otherwise casts doubt on your whole post.

I am not lying.

Have you put these 2 screens side by side?

rosetech · 01-01-2014, 14:00

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Originally Posted by anyonefortennis

The screen resolution was much better on my 5s also compared to his HTC One. The colours on his phone looked very dark and faded compared to mine. The sound from the speakers wasn't that much different either even though he was boasting how the speakers on the HTC One were the best.

Just to clarify, when you say resolution, you then talk about colours? Do you actually mean the colour representation is better?

For the sound comparison, I am a little surprised to hear the point of view, but I think pretty much all phones sound awful on speaker.

30-12-2013, 10:34	#26
anyonefortennis Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: 🇬🇧 Posts: 60,865	Quote: Originally Posted by alanwarwic Bluetooth connectivity, USB connectivity, GPS connectivity. Yes, its often connects to other iDevices fine (proprietary). In the flesh it is so underwhelming. I did a like for like comparison with a friend who has the HTC One and I was able to connect to the internet and other services like GPS locations faster than him. His phone took ages to load and the flicking from page to page was very laggy and juddery on his phone. My 5s was much smoother. The screen resolution was much better on my 5s also compared to his HTC One. The colours on his phone looked very dark and faded compared to mine. The sound from the speakers wasn't that much different either even though he was boasting how the speakers on the HTC One were the best. He was not pleased. I didn't rub it in though. Well maybe a little. All these better specs look great on paper but when you do a physical comparison between these phones, it usually tells a different story.

30-12-2013, 10:55	#27
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	Quote: Originally Posted by anyonefortennis I did a like for like comparison with a friend ... Extremely unlikely. I would certainly fail at managing that. And the iPhone has near enough the lowest resolution of any so called high end phone. Even the Moto G beats it.

30-12-2013, 10:56	#28
anyonefortennis Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: 🇬🇧 Posts: 60,865	Readers pole? : I've only just noticed that it should be readers poll. DURRRRR.

30-12-2013, 10:57	#29
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Quote: Originally Posted by alanwarwic Limited connectivity, low screen resolution, small screen. (yes we could debate 'small screen' just like 'walled garden') It has none of them. Your focus on specs seems to imply that you have little interest in device usability. That might explain your endless list of strange comments.

30-12-2013, 11:02	#30
Anika Hanson Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: UK Posts: 14,219	Quote: Originally Posted by anyonefortennis I did a like for like comparison with a friend who has the HTC One and I was able to connect to the internet and other services like GPS locations faster than him. His phone took ages to load and the flicking from page to page was very laggy and juddery on his phone. My 5s was much smoother. The screen resolution was much better on my 5s also compared to his HTC One. The colours on his phone looked very dark and faded compared to mine. The sound from the speakers wasn't that much different either even though he was boasting how the speakers on the HTC One were the best. He was not pleased. I didn't rub it in though. Well maybe a little. All these better specs look great on paper but when you do a physical comparison between these phones, it usually tells a different story. Hmmm. Some of the things you talk about, like the 5S being faster and smoother I can readily believe. However saying that the 5S has a better screen and that it has similar speakers I cannot. You're telling a few fibs here aren't you

30-12-2013, 11:06	#31
anyonefortennis Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: 🇬🇧 Posts: 60,865	Quote: Originally Posted by Anika Hanson Hmmm. Some of the things you talk about, like the 5S being faster and smoother I can readily believe. However saying that the 5S has a better screen and that it has similar speakers I cannot. You're telling a few fibs here aren't you No actually I'm not. When we put the phones side by side and tested them, my screen was much brighter and clearer than his. His screen looked duller and the images looked paler/ faded compared to mine. Then he started showing off about how amazing his speakers were so we put on the same piece of music and did a comparison. And honestly, hand on heart, there wasn't that big a difference. And I am very particular about sound quality. I was very surprised after hearing all the rave reviews about how amazing the speakers are on the HTC One and what a difference they make at the front of the phone.

30-12-2013, 11:29	#32
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	Quote: Originally Posted by kidspud It has none of them. Your focus on specs seems to imply that you have little interest in device usability. That might explain your endless list of strange comments. Usability relies on specs. And how about advancing the discussion rather than going with your very dodgy politics. Its getting as dull the brightness set to low on a HTC One.

30-12-2013, 11:37	#33
Anika Hanson Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: UK Posts: 14,219	Quote: Originally Posted by alanwarwic Usability relies on specs. And how about advancing the discussion rather than going with your very dodgy politics. Its getting as dull the brightness set to low on a HTC One. Maybe for android but specs aren't everything on iOS devices. I've got 2 iOS devices, both have dual core processors and both run buttery smooth. Now I have 3 android devices, 2 have quad core processors and run perfectly fine. The third has a dual core processor and lags on occasion. The experience isn't as pleasant as my other devices.

30-12-2013, 12:37	#34
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Quote: Originally Posted by alanwarwic Usability relies on specs. And how about advancing the discussion rather than going with your very dodgy politics. Its getting as dull the brightness set to low on a HTC One. What debate? The results of a reader poll put the iPhone 5s top. The only debates appears to be one person questioning the results (although it is not clear to me what was being implied), and your silly comment about basic specs. I assume the reason the iPhone came top is because apple provide a quality product which does everything the user wants very well for the price charged. That is my experience with the iPad, and I've no reason to doubt it with the phone. Over 50% of the readers seem to agree.

30-12-2013, 12:41	#35
swordman Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 6,342	Quote: Originally Posted by Anika Hanson Maybe for android but specs aren't everything on iOS devices. I've got 2 iOS devices, both have dual core processors and both run buttery smooth. Now I have 3 android devices, 2 have quad core processors and run perfectly fine. The third has a dual core processor and lags on occasion. The experience isn't as pleasant as my other devices. This is what i find hard to believe when people talk about ios devices. I have 2 ipad 2's and frequently they are dog rough in terms of performance. Granted they are not new devices and could be considered to be showing their age, but this buttery smooth claim for all ios devices is a large exaggeration.

30-12-2013, 12:46	#36
Anika Hanson Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: UK Posts: 14,219	Quote: Originally Posted by swordman This is what i find hard to believe when people talk about ios devices. I have 2 ipad 2's and frequently they are dog rough in terms of performance. Granted they are not new devices and could be considered to be showing their age, but this buttery smooth claim for all ios devices is a large exaggeration. I probably don't tax them enough. My best device in terms of speed and fluidity at the moment is my S4. Overall id rank my devices like this 1) S4 2) ipad mini (2012) 3) Nexus 7 2012 4) ipod touch 5th gen 5) Galaxy tab 2 10.1

30-12-2013, 13:08	#37
alan1302 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: West Yorks Posts: 6,180	Quote: Originally Posted by alanwarwic Usability relies on specs. And how about advancing the discussion rather than going with your very dodgy politics. Its getting as dull the brightness set to low on a HTC One. How about you advancing the discussion for a change?

30-12-2013, 15:46	#38
qasdfdsaq Inactive Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,286	Quote: Originally Posted by Resonance Must be a massive coin pocket. The ones in my jeans must be about 3 inches deep and 2 inches wide and I take a lot bigger waste than 30 inches The ones in my jeans, work trousers, dress trousers, and suit jacket are all just under 3 inches wide... Only phone I've not been able to fit in them was the Note 2.

31-12-2013, 18:22	#39
finbaar Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,921	Using my nephew's iPhone 5 to post this. God iOS is crap compared to Android. It is so hard to do anything.

31-12-2013, 18:46	#40
jonner101 Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 3,153	Quote: Originally Posted by Stiggles Wrong. In my opinion did you forget to add there? I think personally these days, the iphone is far to small screen wise. I wish apple would bin that fantastically big bezel and increase the screen size within the same package. I have a Nexus 5 with a 5" screen and its superb. Still slides nicely into my shirt pocket when at work. Just to add, i do not believe these numbers DS has pulled out on this poll! Why not, why would they make it up. iOS users don't bother posting on this forum much because they immediately get called an idiot by people like yourself if they say anything positive about an Apple device. places like xda and macrumors have much better tech forums for rational debate.

31-12-2013, 19:01	#41
BT@home Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,911	I would Guess it won simply because more ds users have one? Surely faced with such a vote the majority of people would vote for their own phone? Why would you vote for a phone that you don't actually own as best phone, unless you chose a very cheap phone?

01-01-2014, 01:51	#42
qasdfdsaq Inactive Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,286	Because with the prevalence of 24-month contracts not everyone can get a new phone ever 3 months, but might still want one?

01-01-2014, 03:09	#43
qasdfdsaq Inactive Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,286	Quote: Originally Posted by jonner101 places like xda and macrumors have much better tech forums for rational debate. Arbitrary personal preferences aren't usually the best subject matter for rational debate.

01-01-2014, 03:20	#44
adi_carnat Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 184	Quote: Originally Posted by anyonefortennis 56.5% of over 22,600 votes. [url]http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tech/news/a540230/iphone-5s-named-best-phone-ipad-air-is-best-tablet-in-2013-reader-poll.html[/url1. iPhone 5S - 56.5% 2. Samsung Galaxy S4 - 19.8% 3. HTC One - 6.3% 4. Nokia Lumia 1020 - 5.1% 5. Sony Xperia Z1 - 4.5% Quite strange because the pole I voted on the 5s and HTC One were practically neck and neck a few days ago. a ios device cannot be best in any way than anything else. stupid pool. gs4 , lg g2 or htc one are superior phones anyway you look at it.

01-01-2014, 05:18	#45
UserXYZ Forum Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 266	User polls are useless, the poll results just end up reflecting market share. From what I can see of a lot of online tech publications, the HTC One is the best phone. Unfortunately some really important apps for me are only available on the app store so I have to use an iphone 5s, otherwise I'd get an HTC One.

01-01-2014, 10:33	#46
finbaar Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,921	Quote: Originally Posted by anyonefortennis I did a like for like comparison with a friend who has the HTC One and I was able to connect to the internet and other services like GPS locations faster than him. His phone took ages to load and the flicking from page to page was very laggy and juddery on his phone. My 5s was much smoother. The screen resolution was much better on my 5s also compared to his HTC One. The colours on his phone looked very dark and faded compared to mine. The sound from the speakers wasn't that much different either even though he was boasting how the speakers on the HTC One were the best. He was not pleased. I didn't rub it in though. Well maybe a little. All these better specs look great on paper but when you do a physical comparison between these phones, it usually tells a different story. You can have all the other points about the 5s vs the H1 but you are obviously lying about the screens. No one putting those two devices side by side would choose the 5s as having the better screen. The H1 has a noticeably higher resolution and much more natural colours. The fact that you claim otherwise casts doubt on your whole post.

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01-01-2014, 11:08	#47
jwball Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 1,233	Quote: Originally Posted by finbaar Using my nephew's iPhone 5 to post this. God iOS is crap compared to Android. It is so hard to do anything. How strange. You sign in to a forum on a phone which doesn't belong to you, then complain it's hard to use and post a reply with no problems. I own both and would say iOS is marginally easier to use, but both are certainly not difficult at all.

01-01-2014, 11:48	#48
The Sack Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: S6 1SW WTID UTO FTB Posts: 6,327	Quote: Originally Posted by jonner101 places like xda and macrumors have much better tech forums for rational debate. Cobblers, XDA is one of the worst moderated places on the planet, don't agree with what's being said or dare to repeat something and its removed or locked with an efficiency a communist state would be proud of. Well done The iPhone 5s but ill stick with my Nexus devices tar.

01-01-2014, 13:20	#49
anyonefortennis Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: 🇬🇧 Posts: 60,865	Quote: Originally Posted by finbaar You can have all the other points about the 5s vs the H1 but you are obviously lying about the screens. No one putting those two devices side by side would choose the 5s as having the better screen. The H1 has a noticeably higher resolution and much more natural colours. The fact that you claim otherwise casts doubt on your whole post. I am not lying. Have you put these 2 screens side by side?

01-01-2014, 14:00	#50
rosetech Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,058	Quote: Originally Posted by anyonefortennis The screen resolution was much better on my 5s also compared to his HTC One. The colours on his phone looked very dark and faded compared to mine. The sound from the speakers wasn't that much different either even though he was boasting how the speakers on the HTC One were the best. Just to clarify, when you say resolution, you then talk about colours? Do you actually mean the colour representation is better? For the sound comparison, I am a little surprised to hear the point of view, but I think pretty much all phones sound awful on speaker.