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Old 30-12-2013, 12:14
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Back in 1993 (when I was a teen) I was just getting into N.W.A., Dr. Dre, Eazy E and the rest of the "Gangsta Rap" acts around. I felt somewhat cool listening to music which was full of profanity but ironically I was terrified of my mum so I always listed to the music with headphones on. The fact that this kind of music was taboo made it somewhat appealing to me, but out of respect I never played it loudly.

It seems nowadays that everyone is becoming gangsta. I mean - the swearing initially found it's way into R&B music, but has now infiltrated pop - with mainstream bubblegum acts like Britney and the Hannah Montana girl using words like "B!tch", "Fcuk" and other swear words. I was quite shocked to hear such music in the middle of the day being played loudly in retail stores and food outlets. To me, swearing has lost its cool and seems quite cheesy now. In the words of the late Eazy E, these acts seem to be "studio gangstas" and "fake ass wannabees".

What are your thoughts on this?
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Old 30-12-2013, 14:30
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Back in 1993 (when I was a teen) I was just getting into N.W.A., Dr. Dre, Eazy E and the rest of the "Gangsta Rap" acts around. I felt somewhat cool listening to music which was full of profanity but ironically I was terrified of my mum so I always listed to the music with headphones on. The fact that this kind of music was taboo made it somewhat appealing to me, but out of respect I never played it loudly.

It seems nowadays that everyone is becoming gangsta. I mean - the swearing initially found it's way into R&B music, but has now infiltrated pop - with mainstream bubblegum acts like Britney and the Hannah Montana girl using words like "B!tch", "Fcuk" and other swear words. I was quite shocked to hear such music in the middle of the day being played loudly in retail stores and food outlets. To me, swearing has lost its cool and seems quite cheesy now. In the words of the late Eazy E, these acts seem to be "studio gangstas" and "fake ass wannabees".

What are your thoughts on this?
There was swearing in music way before gangsta rap
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Old 30-12-2013, 16:24
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There was swearing in music way before gangsta rap
He doesn't say that there wasn't. I'm sure rock music had lots of swearing in it too, but the pop music of TODAY takes influences from urban and dance genres, not from rock music. The rock community has chosen to distance itself from pop music as much as it can, so as a result it has very little influence on pop music anymore.

I think hip hop becoming mainstream in the past decades has maybe partly de-sensitized the general public to swearing in music. However, there's surely many other factors too.

Even recently I've noticed a change though. Only 10 years ago we had R&B singers Eamon and Frankee both get massive #1 hits, capitalizing off the amount of swearing in their songs. That wouldn't happen today, if a song had lots of swearing people just wouldn't care anymore, since it's so normal.
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Old 30-12-2013, 16:30
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It shouldn't matter if white, female, pop stars want to swear. I don't think swearing has ever been "cool", but it shouldn't be limited to one type of person for fear of not sounding "cool".
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Old 30-12-2013, 16:41
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It shouldn't matter if white, female, pop stars want to swear. I don't think swearing has ever been "cool", but it shouldn't be limited to one type of person for fear of not sounding "cool".
I thought the swearing was meant to make it sound 'real' rather than 'cool'.
Same applies to rock or punk!
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