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The Johnny Carter (Sam Strike / Ted Reilly) Appreciation Thread
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_elly001
06-06-2016
Originally Posted by idratherjack:
“You might find a break from it does you the world of good! I have been a lifelong viewer and finally switched off for 3 months this year as I just couldn't take it anymore!

It seems to me they are making all the same mistakes they did that led Sam Strike to leave. I just wish they would give Johnny something (or rather someone) to do!”

Well I definitely feel a break, even a relatively short one of two weeks, is going to do me good, and I may not bother watching on catch-up when I get back unless something meaningful happens with Johnny (so I'll rely on you guys on here to keep me updated!)

Your second point is very true. I think Ted seems a lot more committed to the role than Sam (not a criticism of Sam, I don't see anything wrong in being ambitious) so don't think he'll be off as quickly if he isn't being used but at the same time, they can't take the mick with it, you know? They need to be utilising their young cast; it's shameful that Jamie Borthwick only got one really decent story under DTC and the rest of his time has been spent making up the numbers in the Mitchell family.

Originally Posted by popmusicman:
“The actors who play the Coker family are all in Greece at the moment on holiday which might suggest Jonny Labey has finished filming. Jonny starts his new play on 4 August and with time needed for rehearsals makes sense a holiday in between finishing EE and starting on the play (also how would they explain their tans). That being the case Pauls exit might on screen towards the end of July.

The decision to recast Johnny was made in response to Maddie Hill quitting the show as Nancy last summer and clearly to boost the Carter family. They only appointed Ted to the role in in February so the new producer could have stopped it if he felt strongly about it. Paul was axed as a result of Johnny returning and again the new producer could have stopped it. We have to assume the new producer is on board with Johnny's return and that storylines are in place. Kellie going on maternity leave might mean more storylines for the Carter boys and Whitney away from the Vic

It has been a slow start to Johnny's return after a big return but that might just be the way the storylines are going. DTC did say Johnny would have a big storyline and Paul leaving does open opportunities for storylines with Ben.

When would Johnny know about his exams? Would be nice to have scene about that and I have mentioned it before but can Johnny have a on screen birthday celebration as every other Carter family has had one (and we would know when his birthday is and how old he is)”

It's lovely that the Coker actors have all gone on holiday together, I do feel so sorry for Jonny Labey who seems like a really nice guy. Yet another plot-over-character casting that led to the waste of a decent young actor. I do wonder if Les and Pam have also been axed - the fact that they have gone away together relatively quickly after Jonny's axing means that Les and Pam probably won't be there for the aftermath of whatever happens in Paul's 'explosive' exit. It's a shame if so. I was never a fan of Paul's character, precisely because (as I said), his character was a plot device rather than a fully formed character, but Les and Pam were great IMO.

I agree that bringing back Johnny was no doubt a response to Maddy leaving the role of Nancy but I'm not sure an incoming producer has any say whatsoever about leavers and arrivals before he's due to start. I could be wrong, though. At the moment it's impossible to say what characters SOC will favour and who he'll neglect, but my worry is that he'll wonder why he needs to pay attention to the likes of Johnny when not even his original creator could come up with a decent storyline for him outside of his original coming out. I'm also quite worried that if Johnny DOES play a big part in Paul's leaving storyline, the overall quality of this (and any other storylines around this time) is going to be quite poor as there's no EP at EE at the moment.

I presume Johnny will know his results fairly soon, I always remembered getting them a few weeks after my exams, usually just before I went back home for the summer at the end of term. So I'd expect the next few weeks.

Edit: Only three episodes of EE next week (none on the Monday), and Johnny is in two of them - Tuesday and Thursday.
_elly001
07-06-2016
Small Johnny mention in the Thursday episode spoilers for next week as he tries to help Sylvie by showing her an old photo album:

http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/east...aled-in-court/

Yes, it's more family scenes for Johnny, and he's still in that bloody pub, but I suppose at least it's a different character he's interacting with.

(Also for us Steven fans, how hot does he look in his suit?! I think if he was to walk into The Vic dressed in that, Johnny would probably pass out. )
popmusicman
07-06-2016
Originally Posted by _elly001:
“Small Johnny mention in the Thursday episode spoilers for next week as he tries to help Sylvie by showing her an old photo album:

http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/east...aled-in-court/

Yes, it's more family scenes for Johnny, and he's still in that bloody pub, but I suppose at least it's a different character he's interacting with.

(Also for us Steven fans, how hot does he look in his suit?! I think if he was to walk into The Vic dressed in that, Johnny would probably pass out. )”


We should be grateful Johnny is doing something more than just serving at the bar

It should be a nice scene but if Johnny is to have scenes with his family could we have one with Lee. We have not had one scene between the two of them since Johnny returned and it would nice if EE could do more with the two brothers maybe linked to Lee's depression storyline

I agree Steven does look hot in that suit
_elly001
07-06-2016
Originally Posted by popmusicman:
“We should be grateful Johnny is doing something more than just serving at the bar

It should be a nice scene but if Johnny is to have scenes with his family could we have one with Lee. We have not had one scene between the two of them since Johnny returned and it would nice if EE could do more with the two brothers maybe linked to Lee's depression storyline

I agree Steven does look hot in that suit”

Yes, I'm happy that Johnny has something to do, and it's nice that he's getting a chance to interact with Sylvie as I don't believe he's met her yet? Could be wrong on that, though. Hopefully she's nice to him!

Agreed about Lee but as his depression is fairly settled at the moment, perhaps they'll get some stuff if/when Lee relapses which I'm sure is inevitable, this being EE!
idratherjack
07-06-2016
Originally Posted by _elly001:
“Small Johnny mention in the Thursday episode spoilers for next week as he tries to help Sylvie by showing her an old photo album:

http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/east...aled-in-court/

Yes, it's more family scenes for Johnny, and he's still in that bloody pub, but I suppose at least it's a different character he's interacting with.

(Also for us Steven fans, how hot does he look in his suit?! I think if he was to walk into The Vic dressed in that, Johnny would probably pass out. )”

Steven looks amazingly hot in his suit!

If he walked into my flat dressed in that I would pass out
_elly001
07-06-2016
Originally Posted by idratherjack:
“Steven looks amazingly hot in his suit!

If he walked into my flat dressed in that I would pass out ”

And the best thing about it is that it would look even better on Johnny's bedroom floor. #JustSaying
idratherjack
07-06-2016
Originally Posted by _elly001:
“And the best thing about it is that it would look even better on Johnny's bedroom floor. #JustSaying ”

It certainly would!

I will not rest till we get a Johnny and Steven bed scene
pothuthic
10-06-2016
I rarely come on soaps anymore, am loving Johnnys return however, I'm growing very fond of Ted's portrayal
_elly001
10-06-2016
Originally Posted by pothuthic:
“I rarely come on soaps anymore, am loving Johnnys return however, I'm growing very fond of Ted's portrayal”

Lovely to see our wonderful thread creator back on here. Agreed about Ted, I wasn't sure at first but I think he's doing great as Johnny - when he gets a chance to do something, of course.

Is anyone on here going to the Meet and Greet as I saw Ted has been listed as one of the cast members who will be there?

Also don't forget guys that Johnny is listed in tonight's episode credits although he's the last character on there so it may not be a speaking part or certainly nothing significant. He may get slightly more to do next week in Tuesday and Thursday episodes.

He isn't mentioned in the brief spoilers for the week after next, neither are any of the Carters.
idratherjack
10-06-2016
That bed scene with Paul and Ben last night gave me hope they will recreate it down the line with Steven and Johnny.
_elly001
10-06-2016
Originally Posted by idratherjack:
“That bed scene with Paul and Ben last night gave me hope they will recreate it down the line with Steven and Johnny.”

Haven't watched last night's EE yet. Were they both topless or did they follow the old Hollyoaks rule of only ever showing one topless guy and one in a vest?
andreas_eastend
10-06-2016
I think they were both topless. Would LOVE to see that with Steven & Johnny 😉

And yes, Steven in his suit is looking mighty fine!
idratherjack
10-06-2016
Originally Posted by _elly001:
“Haven't watched last night's EE yet. Were they both topless or did they follow the old Hollyoaks rule of only ever showing one topless guy and one in a vest? ”

I loved that rule too!

Paul was shirtless and Ben was under the duvet. That makes it sound worse than it was.
_elly001
10-06-2016
Originally Posted by idratherjack:
“I loved that rule too!

Paul was shirtless and Ben was under the duvet. That makes it sound worse than it was.”

It was such a funny rule, though I think they may have relaxed it now that all the men just get their tops off all the time.

LOL! I wish I could get excited about watching it when I get home today but let's face it, they're no Steven/Johnny.
andreas_eastend
10-06-2016
Originally Posted by _elly001:
“but let's face it, they're no Steven/Johnny. ”

That they're not
idratherjack
10-06-2016
Originally Posted by _elly001:
“It was such a funny rule, though I think they may have relaxed it now that all the men just get their tops off all the time.

LOL! I wish I could get excited about watching it when I get home today but let's face it, they're no Steven/Johnny. ”

I really wouldn't get excited about it!

In other news Steven was smoulderingly hot. And holding a baby which made my ovaries explode.
_elly001
10-06-2016
So Steven and Lauren have broken up. I'm sure they'll get back together soon but can Steven have some rebound sex with Johnny first? I don't even care if he breaks his heart, just give our boy some action!
idratherjack
10-06-2016
Originally Posted by _elly001:
“So Steven and Lauren have broken up. I'm sure they'll get back together soon but can Steven have some rebound sex with Johnny first? I don't even care if he breaks his heart, just give our boy some action! ”

I love that that was my first thought too!

I say keep Steven and Lauren apart, Johnny needs some summer loving
_elly001
10-06-2016
Originally Posted by idratherjack:
“I love that that was my first thought too!

I say keep Steven and Lauren apart, Johnny needs some summer loving ”

Of course that would be the perfect option.
andreas_eastend
11-06-2016
Have Steven & Lauren as friends, and let Johnny have more scenes with Steven. I want more scenes with them, and I'm hopeful now that'll happen ☺
popmusicman
12-06-2016
This is just me but I like the idea of Martin and Johnny as a couple I thought they looked good together and I sensed a little Johnny interest

I am thinking EE are doing on screen casting to see who should Johnny be with so having reviewed the scenes my preferences

Johnny/Steven - clearly the biggest on screen chemistry
Johnny/Martin (but this could just because James Bye is looking hot these days)
Johnny/Andy
Johnny/Tom
Johnny/Ben (only based on the one scene they have since Ted arrived which was awkward )

I surprised Kush has not had his scene with Johnny in the Vic as they are lining up all the hot guys to be served by Johnny

I think we are agreed enough with the looking let Johnny have some fun
_elly001
12-06-2016
Originally Posted by popmusicman:
“This is just me but I like the idea of Martin and Johnny as a couple I thought they looked good together and I sensed a little Johnny interest

I am thinking EE are doing on screen casting to see who should Johnny be with so having reviewed the scenes my preferences

Johnny/Steven - clearly the biggest on screen chemistry
Johnny/Martin (but this could just because James Bye is looking hot these days)
Johnny/Andy
Johnny/Tom
Johnny/Ben (only based on the one scene they have since Ted arrived which was awkward )

I surprised Kush has not had his scene with Johnny in the Vic as they are lining up all the hot guys to be served by Johnny

I think we are agreed enough with the looking let Johnny have some fun”

Lol I think you might be onto something here. I'd also add his silver fox tutor to the list, their chemistry was awesome (to the extent that quite a few people on the main forum were speculating they would have an affair after their scenes together.)

I'd like a Johnny/Vincent scene next please.

Also I find it weird that Johnny and Paul haven't said anything to each other yet. I feel like, awkwardness with Ben aside (which Paul doesn't know about), the three of them are young gay guys around the same age and Ben and Paul are frequently in The Vic. Paul and Johnny have both travelled, come from 'nice' families and Paul seems quite well educated like Johnny. Regardless of whether something happens between Ben and Johnny later down the line, I feel like they've missed an opportunity here to show Johnny third-wheeling with them sometimes.
teenage-monkey
12-06-2016
I'm worried about Johnny's sexual health. He needs opening up and needs to unload.
_elly001
13-06-2016
Originally Posted by teenage-monkey:
“I'm worried about Johnny's sexual health. He needs opening up and needs to unload.”

To be fair, he's on screen so little that he could feasibly be getting action every night and we wouldn't know about it. Although going by the way he reacted to Steven, I'm assuming that isn't the case.

Just looking at the episode credits for next week; only three episodes again but no Johnny in any of them. Which suits me fine as I'm on holiday that week and the one after. I'm looking forward to his scene tomorrow (or is it Thursday?) with Sylvie. And I'm hoping we'll get another Johven scene tomorrow or Thursday when they're both listed in the credits.
popmusicman
14-06-2016
Spoilers for w/b 27 June indicate there is a birthday party for Linda in the Vic that week but things don't go well. That should mean Johnny should be appearing so something to look forward to.

Linda's birthday party storyline two years ago when Luca appeared, Lee talking to Johnny in a box and they dressed up as the Spice Girls was one the best series of episodes of Sam's time at EE It went downhill after that!
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