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Old 18-04-2016, 20:57
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I think Ted is perfectly fine as Johnny. Very natural. Loved the face he made when Linda was going on about not wanting his sister to leave.
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Old 18-04-2016, 21:18
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Quite a nice little storyline with Johnny tonight, convincing his tutor to let him take the second year exams. It was a nice surprise as there wasn't anything in the spoilers about it and he got a decent amount of screen time!

On a shallow note, his tutor was hot and seemed to be quite taken with Jonnny's story of how he fell in love. Is an extra-curricular affair completely out of the question?

Ted still feels quite tense in the role but I remain hopeful he'll settle more into it over the next couple of months.
It's good that they are keeping him studying I was worried he was going to take over Tamwar's job as market inspector Storyline seems a bit far fetched to me but we will give EE artistic licence on this.

I think we are still getting used to Ted and the way he acts bit I think is doing just fine and I am sure he will improve as he get more used to playing the character. He feels part of the Carter family which is a good start.

I saw your thread about Jonny Labey and his new play which is an interesting development. Does this add to the speculation that Paul is on his way out we will have to see.
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Old 18-04-2016, 21:48
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Paul always felt like an obvious Johnny stand-in and last minute replacement to carry on that storyline with Ben so I would be very surprised if Paul isn't swiftly and unceremoniously axed. Would anyone miss him? He was always more of a plot device than a character.
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Old 18-04-2016, 22:00
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It's a shame as I think Jonny Labey could potentially have been a good addition to the cast if they'd written the role of Paul a bit better and given him a life outside of his relationship with Ben. I'm just grateful that Sam left when he did and we were spared a year of Johnny being treated like a doormat by Ben which is basically the role Paul fulfilled.

At least if Jonnny and Ben do get together now, Ben has finally accepted he's gay (even if he is still a violent borderline sociopath.)
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Old 18-04-2016, 23:28
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Johnny deserves a hell of a lot better than Ben! What anyone sees in him is a mystery.
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Old 18-04-2016, 23:53
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Ted has definately loosened up a bit in the most recent episode. I can see what people mean about him being wooden, but I think a lot of young actors are a bit stiff when they start on something like this, its just more obvious as they have given him so much screen time right from the word go. He totally has the qualities of the character in him, so I'm sure he'll just get better. Thinking about how Sam was in the scenes with Gianluca, I think Ted will be better when it comes to that kind of thing.
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Old 19-04-2016, 07:48
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Well, not my first choice of recurring character, but definitely my second, takes a shine to Johnny next week:

http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/east...ic-tom-pepper/

I can't see it leading anywhere at the moment with Johnny being so busy studying but Tom is gorgeous and would make a very welcome addition to the regular cast. Looking forward to this!
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Old 19-04-2016, 08:23
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Well, not my first choice of recurring character, but definitely my second, takes a shine to Johnny next week:

http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/east...ic-tom-pepper/

I can't see it leading anywhere at the moment with Johnny being so busy studying but Tom is gorgeous and would make a very welcome addition to the regular cast. Looking forward to this!
I cannot see this leading to anything as well. It might just be that EE are aware that Tom has a bit of a fan base and are teasing them

It would nice to see Johnny enjoy an on screen boyfriend or at least dating Tom even for a little while rather than go straight to Ben (if that is what is planned) and all troubles his brings
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Old 19-04-2016, 08:50
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I cannot see this leading to anything as well. It might just be that EE are aware that Tom has a bit of a fan base and are teasing them

It would nice to see Johnny enjoy an on screen boyfriend or at least dating Tom even for a little while rather than go straight to Ben (if that is what is planned) and all troubles his brings
One thing I would say about DTC is he does make good use of his recurring characters. And it helps that they're normally pretty fit. Hopefully the new EP continues to use the likes of Tom as it adds more of a community feel to the show. And if he wants to have Tom continue to flirt with Johnny, that's fine with me too.
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Old 19-04-2016, 10:44
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So it's been confirmed that Paul is leaving. I guess it's inevitable that Johnny and Ben are destined to be together. A shame, in my opinion. Hopefully the writing for Ben improves in a realistic way and Johnny doesn't just passively accept his cruel streak like Paul has done.
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Old 19-04-2016, 14:06
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I think its pretty obvious Paul was beamed in to take up Johnny's place in the Ben storyline. Obviously the producers had a lot planned for Johnny before Sam Strike took off and left. Now Johnny is back, its clear that he is going to resume his former role.

The Ben pairing makes it easier to see why they went with Ted for this role. Sam Strike looked like he could easily look after himself, so it wouldn't have been as convincing if he'd been in an abusive relationship with Ben. Ted on the other hand looks far more sweet and innocent!
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Old 19-04-2016, 14:28
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I think its pretty obvious Paul was beamed in to take up Johnny's place in the Ben storyline. Obviously the producers had a lot planned for Johnny before Sam Strike took off and left. Now Johnny is back, its clear that he is going to resume his former role.

The Ben pairing makes it easier to see why they went with Ted for this role. Sam Strike looked like he could easily look after himself, so it wouldn't have been as convincing if he'd been in an abusive relationship with Ben. Ted on the other hand looks far more sweet and innocent!
I do worry for Johnny in a relationship with Ben. I'm not sure if it would necessarily be painted as an 'abusive' relationship, in the way that Tosh and Tina or Little Mo and Trevor's was, for example, but Ben by his nature is a hugely temperamental, angry character who has no issue with hurting those weaker than him when he goes into a rage. God forbid if Johnny was to mess up in some way in the relationship; not only would he have Ben's anger to deal with, he'd also get Phil chucked into the mix as well.

Like I keep saying, I really hope they do something to address Ben's anger issues before he starts making moves on Johnny.
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Old 19-04-2016, 21:01
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So Paul won't be in EE for much longer and the path is clear for Johnny and Ben to finally be together. It seemed destined to be that way when Ben was recast.

Although I like the idea of Johnny and Ben as a couple the reality Ben is so mixed up and at times violent it is going to end in tears. I suppose it might make good drama bit not really what I want for Johnny.

Back in the present and EE are keeping Ben, Paul and Johnny apart for now even though Ben and Paul were in the Vic in tonight's episode. I assume there is reason for this and there is something planned in a future episode but seems a bit of long time for Johnny to be back and not see or talk to Ben.
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Old 19-04-2016, 22:09
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Not much Johnny tonight, but I was okay with that as we got a lot more of him last night than I was expecting. One thing I forgot to say about last night's episode that struck me when I was watching was how much better Johnny seems to be now at resolving problematic situations. First of all the way he politely but firmly told Linda to give him and his tutor some space when she was hovering around, and then the way he explained himself truthfully to his tutor at the tube station. I guess this is part of his "grown up" new persona and it's a welcome change, as he was never very good with dealing with conflict before he left for Italy.

I agree that it's odd he hasn't had any scenes with Ben and Paul, Ben in particular really. I'd be interested to see if he acknowledges Ben's behaviour on the night he returned.
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Old 20-04-2016, 14:46
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Had a quick scan of the soap magazines and they mention Johnny getting attention for Tom the sexy paramedic but says "does Johnny have eyes for someone else" I assume that means Ben

Talk about stretching credibility you get attention for a hot guy like Tom and all you are interested is Ben. There is I accept something about Ben that is attractive but if Tom was interested in me it would be goodbye Ben in a flash and when we can we go on a date Tom
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Old 20-04-2016, 15:08
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Had a quick scan of the soap magazines and they mention Johnny getting attention for Tom the sexy paramedic but says "does Johnny have eyes for someone else" I assume that means Ben

Talk about stretching credibility you get attention for a hot guy like Tom and all you are interested is Ben. There is I accept something about Ben that is attractive but if Tom was interested in me it would be goodbye Ben in a flash and when we can we go on a date Tom
Hmm, I know it said on the DS article that his mind was elsewhere but I assumed that meant he'd be studying. If he's being distracted by Ben, is he even going to be revising for his exams? For once I hope that Linda goes into full-on overbearing mother mode with this one.

As for picking Tom over Ben, it's a no-brainer, isn't it? One is kind, gorgeous, professional, saves people for a living etc, the other is a violent convicted criminal. Guess which one Johnny will go for?
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Old 20-04-2016, 21:31
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It's a soap! He has to go for the most interesting character, otherwise there'd be no story!
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Old 21-04-2016, 21:27
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Johnny just in the background of the episode today, wearing a nice white jumper but not doing much else! Hopefully he'll get a nice goodbye with Nancy tomorrow.

Ted has tweeted that he did his interview with Gay Times today and it will be out in a couple of weeks time, so not too long to wait for that now.
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Old 22-04-2016, 20:35
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Wistful look from Johnny tonight when he saw Ben and Paul cosying up in the Vic, and it looked like Ben noticed. And so it begins...
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Old 22-04-2016, 20:45
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Wistful look from Johnny tonight when he saw Ben and Paul cosying up in the Vic, and it looked like Ben noticed. And so it begins...
Yeah I saw that. When are they are actually going to talk to each other it seems like EE are dragging this out a bit too much

A nice exit for Nancy and Tanwar when Johnny left the whole storyline was done in the space of one episode
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Old 23-04-2016, 09:33
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Yeah I saw that. When are they are actually going to talk to each other it seems like EE are dragging this out a bit too much

A nice exit for Nancy and Tanwar when Johnny left the whole storyline was done in the space of one episode
Hopefully they'll at least talk next week so we can get an idea of what Johnny's feelings towards Ben are. I really hope that he's still wary of him and hasn't decided overnight that he wants to be with him.

I thought exactly the same thing about Nancy's exit compared to Johnny's. Fair enough, Maddy has been in the show longer and Himesh has obviously been there for years, so they needed a good send off, but Johnny's last scene wasn't even with all the Carters, just with Linda. Oh well. I suppose even then DTC knew he was going to bring Johnny back, whereas I get the impression that it's a lot more permenant for Nancy, unless Maddy chooses to return one day.
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Old 25-04-2016, 14:01
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Are we expecting some Johnny tonight?
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Old 25-04-2016, 14:25
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Are we expecting some Johnny tonight?
Yes, Johnny is in every episode this week, and Wednesday (an hour long episode) is when he gets chatted up by dishy Tom the paramedic. Next week it's looking like he isn't in any (they haven't put up Friday's cast list yet but he isn't in it Monday-Thursday) so enjoy him while you can.
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Old 25-04-2016, 20:56
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Some really cute Johnny scenes tonight, until Ben randomly decided to have a go at him. Because it was apparently Johnny's fault that Ben decided to kiss Paul in public? Ben's mind is a strange, strange place.

Still, I did have to laugh at their comparison of boyfriends (or ex boyfriend, in Johnny's case.) Johnny describing Paul as "a bit Blue Peter" and Ben retorting that Gianluca was hardly an alpha male. I also liked Johnny's "only gay in the village" line.

But yeah, I can see where this is going: Ben blaming Johnny whenever something goes wrong with Paul, and Johnny just glumly accepting it because he has feelings for Ben. Prove me wrong, writers!
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Old 25-04-2016, 20:59
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I do fear for Johnny. Ted has such an innocence about him in his mannerisms and speaking. I do think the writers are lining up Ben and Johnny as a couple.
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