Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Return to mid table glory?”
“Return to mid table glory?”
I'd settle for mid-table at the moment.
The Ratings Thread (Part 3 (3))
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Originally Posted by C14E:
“I wouldn't read too much into the declines for L&O. A few others have lost viewers across their first hour but then stayed strong across the series. When a show follows something like Corrie it will always lose some viewers across the hour.”
“I wouldn't read too much into the declines for L&O. A few others have lost viewers across their first hour but then stayed strong across the series. When a show follows something like Corrie it will always lose some viewers across the hour.”
Also, Heroes will lose a chunk of its audience on BBC2 because of the first-look episode that aired last night. This could help minimize Law and Order's drop.
Originally Posted by Blakey29:
“What's historic about tonight's episode?
I haven't watched EE for a while, and with this being a Ratings Thread, can someone briefly tell me what's going on please??”
“What's historic about tonight's episode?
I haven't watched EE for a while, and with this being a Ratings Thread, can someone briefly tell me what's going on please??”
I don't think anyone's answered this, but it's only going to feature the Trumans which means it's the first ever episode where all the cast are black.
By the way, they can't repeat Law and Order after the news tomorrow as there are FA Cup highlights.
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“Thank you, Steve.
I enjoyed reading that. It would be interesting to see how Millionaire would fare against EastEnders these days. ”
“Thank you, Steve.
I enjoyed reading that. It would be interesting to see how Millionaire would fare against EastEnders these days. ”
Well, I'm glad someone liked it. That Sunday 7th March 1999 is interesting (not the 9th, as I said there) because as I said it was one of BBC1's lowest rated Sundays ever. Here's what ITV had...
6.30pm Michael Barrymore's My Kind Of Music
7.30pm Coronation Street
8.30pm Millionaire
9pm A Touch of Frost
Corrie got 19.8 million viewers, Millionaire got 19.2 million, which was in fact its highest rating ever, and Frost got 16 million. Meanwhile, BBC1 had this mess...
6.50pm Antiques Roadshow
7.35pm Wildlife Special - Wolf (repeat)
8.20pm Five Go Mad In The Kitchen (part of the build-up to Comic Relief)
8.30pm Love Town (docusoap on Gretna Green)
9pm Comic Relief's Great Big Excellent African Adventure
9.50pm News
10pm The Lakes (part nine of a ten-part series)
10.40pm Comic Relief Jukebox (another Comic Relief thing, this time with Zoe Ball inviting viewers to vote for archive clips)
As you can see, a right mess. In fact that whole week when ITV moved the news to 11pm was dreadful on BBC1, on Monday at 9.30 there was a grim docusoap about the RSPCA which the following week was shoved to a late night slot, they had a Changing Rooms repeat and more Comic Relief fillers on Wednesday and because the Budget was that week, on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday they had Party Political Broadcasts at 9.30pm. And there was Millionaire opposite Red Nose Day, which didn't help.
At the time I really thought BBC1 was in dire straits, the schedules were hopeless. Of course, we weren't to know how quickly ITV would run out of decent new stuff and how soon BBC1 would do their own revamp which, in the long run, turned out to be far more successful.
Healthy for L&O, which was excellent IMO. I fail to see why ITV has split up the run, but okay. 
Also get the feeling soon the dramas will run out... What else have we got, 6 episodes of The Fixer... and...?
Also get the feeling soon the dramas will run out... What else have we got, 6 episodes of The Fixer... and...?
Originally Posted by Polonius:
“Healthy for L&O, which was excellent IMO. I fail to see why ITV has split up the run, but okay.
Also get the feeling soon the dramas will run out... What else have we got, 6 episodes of The Fixer... and...?”
“Healthy for L&O, which was excellent IMO. I fail to see why ITV has split up the run, but okay.
Also get the feeling soon the dramas will run out... What else have we got, 6 episodes of The Fixer... and...?
”
Lack of confidence.
Too many of last year's big new dramas came a cropper.
Originally Posted by Polonius:
“Healthy for L&O, which was excellent IMO. I fail to see why ITV has split up the run, but okay.
Also get the feeling soon the dramas will run out... What else have we got, 6 episodes of The Fixer... and...?”
“Healthy for L&O, which was excellent IMO. I fail to see why ITV has split up the run, but okay.
Also get the feeling soon the dramas will run out... What else have we got, 6 episodes of The Fixer... and...?
”
They've got Law & Order for 7 weeks, then Hell's Kitchen for 2 weeks, then Law & Order for 6 weeks, then The Fixer for 6 weeks - thats mid July - and a whole load of Taggarts if they need them - it got its biggest ever commission. They also have Collision running over 1 week somewhere.
They won't need anything else until late Summer/Autumn, or if they use Taggart it could be late Autumn/Winter.
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“Lack of confidence.
Too many of last year's big new dramas came a cropper.”
“Lack of confidence.
Too many of last year's big new dramas came a cropper.”
It's just to get Hell's Kitchen out. I'm pretty sure of it.
I see it's another repeat of Antiques Roadshow on Sunday. Do you think the ratings will plummet as more people realise they were tricked into watching an old episode by the evil BBC last weekend?
Regarding University Challenge (5.3m), Broadcast say:
Quote:
“Last night's show was by far the most watched edition of the long-running show, which first aired in 1963.”
“Last night's show was by far the most watched edition of the long-running show, which first aired in 1963.”
Originally Posted by PJMillar:
“- Who Wants to be a Millionaire? is a solid show, and Holby City is by no means a 'TV giant'
”
“- Who Wants to be a Millionaire? is a solid show, and Holby City is by no means a 'TV giant'
”
I know. I was taking the piss...
Originally Posted by Cent:
“It's just to get Hell's Kitchen out. I'm pretty sure of it.”
“It's just to get Hell's Kitchen out. I'm pretty sure of it.”
Probably a mixture of both. I'm sure there's no requirement for HK to go out in April. In fact it'd probably be better suited to a summer slot after it's mediocre ratings during it's last run. It's a good show though so I'm rather happy that it's been given (yet) another shot.
As for L&O, won't it be disrupted for another week by BGT? Which makes a return straight after HK unlikely I would have thought, as I'm sure they wouldn't have it taking another (albeit briefer) break.
Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“Well, I'm glad someone liked it. That Sunday 7th March 1999 is interesting (not the 9th, as I said there) because as I said it was one of BBC1's lowest rated Sundays ever. Here's what ITV had...
6.30pm Michael Barrymore's My Kind Of Music
7.30pm Coronation Street
8.30pm Millionaire
9pm A Touch of Frost
Corrie got 19.8 million viewers, Millionaire got 19.2 million, which was in fact its highest rating ever, and Frost got 16 million. Meanwhile, BBC1 had this mess...
6.50pm Antiques Roadshow
7.35pm Wildlife Special - Wolf (repeat)
8.20pm Five Go Mad In The Kitchen (part of the build-up to Comic Relief)
8.30pm Love Town (docusoap on Gretna Green)
9pm Comic Relief's Great Big Excellent African Adventure
9.50pm News
10pm The Lakes (part nine of a ten-part series)
10.40pm Comic Relief Jukebox (another Comic Relief thing, this time with Zoe Ball inviting viewers to vote for archive clips)
As you can see, a right mess. In fact that whole week when ITV moved the news to 11pm was dreadful on BBC1, on Monday at 9.30 there was a grim docusoap about the RSPCA which the following week was shoved to a late night slot, they had a Changing Rooms repeat and more Comic Relief fillers on Wednesday and because the Budget was that week, on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday they had Party Political Broadcasts at 9.30pm. And there was Millionaire opposite Red Nose Day, which didn't help.
At the time I really thought BBC1 was in dire straits, the schedules were hopeless. Of course, we weren't to know how quickly ITV would run out of decent new stuff and how soon BBC1 would do their own revamp which, in the long run, turned out to be far more successful.”
“Well, I'm glad someone liked it. That Sunday 7th March 1999 is interesting (not the 9th, as I said there) because as I said it was one of BBC1's lowest rated Sundays ever. Here's what ITV had...
6.30pm Michael Barrymore's My Kind Of Music
7.30pm Coronation Street
8.30pm Millionaire
9pm A Touch of Frost
Corrie got 19.8 million viewers, Millionaire got 19.2 million, which was in fact its highest rating ever, and Frost got 16 million. Meanwhile, BBC1 had this mess...
6.50pm Antiques Roadshow
7.35pm Wildlife Special - Wolf (repeat)
8.20pm Five Go Mad In The Kitchen (part of the build-up to Comic Relief)
8.30pm Love Town (docusoap on Gretna Green)
9pm Comic Relief's Great Big Excellent African Adventure
9.50pm News
10pm The Lakes (part nine of a ten-part series)
10.40pm Comic Relief Jukebox (another Comic Relief thing, this time with Zoe Ball inviting viewers to vote for archive clips)
As you can see, a right mess. In fact that whole week when ITV moved the news to 11pm was dreadful on BBC1, on Monday at 9.30 there was a grim docusoap about the RSPCA which the following week was shoved to a late night slot, they had a Changing Rooms repeat and more Comic Relief fillers on Wednesday and because the Budget was that week, on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday they had Party Political Broadcasts at 9.30pm. And there was Millionaire opposite Red Nose Day, which didn't help.
At the time I really thought BBC1 was in dire straits, the schedules were hopeless. Of course, we weren't to know how quickly ITV would run out of decent new stuff and how soon BBC1 would do their own revamp which, in the long run, turned out to be far more successful.”
Very True. The BBC have adapted to the onslaught of multichannel (which to me is still 95% discardable) far better than ITV, to the extent that it is arguably the strongest its been in output over its 4 channels. Moving the news to 10.00 at the turn of the century was a masterstroke. The 9.00 brand had strangled the schedules for decades prior.
Millionaire was like a battleship moving around the schedules at its peak. I hope however that ITV didnt expect the mere presence of Chris Tarrant to make The Colour of Money a huge hit.
7.30-10pm UEFA Champions League: Inter Milan v Manchester Utd 6.6m (27%)
good night for ITV1 last night.
good night for ITV1 last night.
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“Lack of confidence.
Too many of last year's big new dramas came a cropper.”
“Lack of confidence.
Too many of last year's big new dramas came a cropper.”
You have Collision with Doug Henshall, An Englishman in New York, Wuthering Heights, The Prisoner, U Be Dead, Primeval, Blue Murder, Kingdom, and new Poirot.
I got these from the ITV winter/spring press pack (get it here http://www.itv.com/documents/pdf/itv...ing_dramaC.pdf)
I'm looking forward to the Prisoner and Collision most. And of course Primeval is back.
Above post meant to quote Polonius' comment "Also get the feeling soon the dramas will run out... What else have we got, 6 episodes of The Fixer... and." Clicked the wrong post to quote.
Tuesday 24th February Overnights
BBC One
19:30- EastEnders: 8.37m (35.6%)
20:00- Holby City: 5.44m (21.8%)
21:00- Mistresses: 4.2m (17%)
BBC Two
20:00- Oz and James Drink To Britain: 2.24m (9.1%)
20:30- MasterChef: 3.62m (14.2%)
21:00- The Secret Life of Your Body Clock: 2.4m (9.6%)
ITV1
19:00- Emmerdale: 7.08m (32.7%)
19:30- UEFA Champions League: Inter Milan v Manchester Utd: 6.56m (26.8%)
- match average: 7.4m (30%)
- first half: 7.0m (28.6%)
- second half: 8.0m (31.6%)
- peak: 8.6m (34%) at the end
- well over 2008 channel slot average of: 4.7m (20.6%)
Channel 4
18:00- The Simpsons: 2.42m [inc +1]
18:30- Hollyoaks: 1.77m [inc +1]
20:00- Supersize Vs Superskinny: 1.94m (7.7%) , +1: 170,000
21:00- Boys and Girls Alone: 1.29m (5.3%) , +1: 186,000
22:00- Shameless: 2.37m [inc. +1]
Five
17:30- Neighbours: 1.5m (9.7%)
18:00- Home and Away: 1.02m (5.4%)
20:00- Mr And Mrs Wolf: 939,000 (3.8%)
21:00- CSI: Crime Scene Investigation: 2.73m (11%)
BBC Three
22:00- EastEnders: 873,000 (4.9%)
E4 [inc +1]
19:00- Hollyoaks: 650,000
21:00- Smallville: 140,000
22:00- Reaper: 190,000
23:00- Shameless: 840,000
Film4 [inc +1]
19:00- Ladies in Lavender: 150,000
21:00- The Sum of Fears: 490,000
Fiver
18:30- Home & Away: 691,000 (3.8%)
19:00- Neighbours: 284,000 (1.4%)
ITV3
19:55- Agatha Christie's Marple: 689,000 (3.1%)
ITV4
19:30- UEFA Champions League: Arsenal v Roma: 607,000 (2.7%)
More4 [inc +1]
21:00- Come Dine with Me: 370,000
22:00- True Stories: 110,000
Primetime Shares
ITV1: 24.2%
BBC One: 22.6%
BBC Two: 8.8%
Channel 4: 7.2% , +1: 0.7%
Five: 6.3%
All Day Shares
BBC One: 21.5%
ITV1: 20.5%
Channel 4 [inc +1]: 8.2%
BBC Two: 7.8%
Five: 5.6%
Source: Broadcast, Channel 4 Sales, Digital Spy (1), Digital Spy (2)
BBC One
19:30- EastEnders: 8.37m (35.6%)
20:00- Holby City: 5.44m (21.8%)
21:00- Mistresses: 4.2m (17%)
BBC Two
20:00- Oz and James Drink To Britain: 2.24m (9.1%)
20:30- MasterChef: 3.62m (14.2%)
21:00- The Secret Life of Your Body Clock: 2.4m (9.6%)
ITV1
19:00- Emmerdale: 7.08m (32.7%)
19:30- UEFA Champions League: Inter Milan v Manchester Utd: 6.56m (26.8%)
- match average: 7.4m (30%)
- first half: 7.0m (28.6%)
- second half: 8.0m (31.6%)
- peak: 8.6m (34%) at the end
- well over 2008 channel slot average of: 4.7m (20.6%)
Channel 4
18:00- The Simpsons: 2.42m [inc +1]
18:30- Hollyoaks: 1.77m [inc +1]
20:00- Supersize Vs Superskinny: 1.94m (7.7%) , +1: 170,000
21:00- Boys and Girls Alone: 1.29m (5.3%) , +1: 186,000
22:00- Shameless: 2.37m [inc. +1]
Five
17:30- Neighbours: 1.5m (9.7%)
18:00- Home and Away: 1.02m (5.4%)
20:00- Mr And Mrs Wolf: 939,000 (3.8%)
21:00- CSI: Crime Scene Investigation: 2.73m (11%)
BBC Three
22:00- EastEnders: 873,000 (4.9%)
E4 [inc +1]
19:00- Hollyoaks: 650,000
21:00- Smallville: 140,000
22:00- Reaper: 190,000
23:00- Shameless: 840,000
Film4 [inc +1]
19:00- Ladies in Lavender: 150,000
21:00- The Sum of Fears: 490,000
Fiver
18:30- Home & Away: 691,000 (3.8%)
19:00- Neighbours: 284,000 (1.4%)
ITV3
19:55- Agatha Christie's Marple: 689,000 (3.1%)
ITV4
19:30- UEFA Champions League: Arsenal v Roma: 607,000 (2.7%)
More4 [inc +1]
21:00- Come Dine with Me: 370,000
22:00- True Stories: 110,000
Primetime Shares
ITV1: 24.2%
BBC One: 22.6%
BBC Two: 8.8%
Channel 4: 7.2% , +1: 0.7%
Five: 6.3%
All Day Shares
BBC One: 21.5%
ITV1: 20.5%
Channel 4 [inc +1]: 8.2%
BBC Two: 7.8%
Five: 5.6%
Source: Broadcast, Channel 4 Sales, Digital Spy (1), Digital Spy (2)
Oh no, Mistresses has suffered a bit of a knock. 
There's no reason for it though really as I would've thought the football wouldn't have dented its figure as Mistresses targets a predominent female audience, whilst the football would bring in the male viewers. I think it will be ok if it stays over 4.0 million, but anything between 4.5 - 5 million would be better.
The football did really well for ITV
There's no reason for it though really as I would've thought the football wouldn't have dented its figure as Mistresses targets a predominent female audience, whilst the football would bring in the male viewers. I think it will be ok if it stays over 4.0 million, but anything between 4.5 - 5 million would be better. The football did really well for ITV
Originally Posted by davey_wavey:
“Oh no, Mistresses has suffered a bit of a knock. There's no reason for it though really as I would've thought the football wouldn't have dented its figure as Mistresses targets a predominent female audience, whilst the football would bring in the male viewers. I think it will be ok if it stays over 4.0 million, but anything between 4.5 - 5 million would be better.
The football did really well for ITV”
“Oh no, Mistresses has suffered a bit of a knock.
There's no reason for it though really as I would've thought the football wouldn't have dented its figure as Mistresses targets a predominent female audience, whilst the football would bring in the male viewers. I think it will be ok if it stays over 4.0 million, but anything between 4.5 - 5 million would be better. The football did really well for ITV
”
Maybe the men in the house won and the football was watched live, and Mistresses was recorded!
Only guessing, the final figures in a week's time should show whether I am right or wrong. Didn't watch either myself.
ITV is proposing a merger with Channel 4 and Five according to Media Guardian.
Should be interesting...
I hope it doesn't happen. Effectively allowing them to take control of Channel 4 and Five and all those digital channels just gives them a monopoly on free commercial television in the UK. It wont be good for competition.
What we need is two big strong commercial broadcasters. I think a takeover of ITV and a Channel 4/Five merger is the way forward.
Should be interesting...
I hope it doesn't happen. Effectively allowing them to take control of Channel 4 and Five and all those digital channels just gives them a monopoly on free commercial television in the UK. It wont be good for competition.
What we need is two big strong commercial broadcasters. I think a takeover of ITV and a Channel 4/Five merger is the way forward.
21:00- Mistresses: 4.2m (17%)
Not good, i dont think that the BBC can renew it for another series if the ratings dont go back up above 4.5m, and even then i dont really see why they would?
21:00- CSI: Crime Scene Investigation: 2.73m (11%)
CSI has been going down in the rati ngs for months! IT used to have a clear lead over Miami/NY/NCIS but now they all do about the same :/
21:00- Smallville: 140,000
22:00- Reaper: 190,000
23:00- Shameless: 840,000
Why dont E4 show shamelss on a wednesday at 9 and use it as lead in to something at 10? then show a film on tuesday, it would rate better...
But good news for E4, CW has renewed smallville/One Tree Hill/ 90210 and ITV2 with Supernaural/gossip girl!!
Not good, i dont think that the BBC can renew it for another series if the ratings dont go back up above 4.5m, and even then i dont really see why they would?
21:00- CSI: Crime Scene Investigation: 2.73m (11%)
CSI has been going down in the rati ngs for months! IT used to have a clear lead over Miami/NY/NCIS but now they all do about the same :/
21:00- Smallville: 140,000
22:00- Reaper: 190,000
23:00- Shameless: 840,000
Why dont E4 show shamelss on a wednesday at 9 and use it as lead in to something at 10? then show a film on tuesday, it would rate better...
But good news for E4, CW has renewed smallville/One Tree Hill/ 90210
and ITV2 with Supernaural/gossip girl!!
The football dented EastEnders quite a bit.
But EE held up quite well.
Mistresses was dented a bit and so was HC.
But EE held up quite well.
Mistresses was dented a bit and so was HC.
Looks like the football dented everyone with both Mistresses and CSI down. I expect both will be up next week since ITV are showing Total Emergency.
Boys and Girls Alone proved to be a flop for Channel 4 while Horizon seems to doing nicely pulling in 2m+ week on week.
Boys and Girls Alone proved to be a flop for Channel 4 while Horizon seems to doing nicely pulling in 2m+ week on week.
Quote:
“Fiver
18:30- Home & Away: 691,000 (3.8%)
19:00- Neighbours: 284,000 (1.4%)”
“Fiver
18:30- Home & Away: 691,000 (3.8%)
19:00- Neighbours: 284,000 (1.4%)”
still going strong for Fiver.
ITV seemed to dent everything apart from BBC2 last night which surprised me a little, but it was a fairly big match. Mistresses and Boys & Girls Alone inparticular didn't hold up very well.
Strong peaktime ratings for ITV3 and ITV4 and ITV's Tuesday woes are temporarily forgotten about as they win primetime. Also next weeks Homes From Hell series should bring in a solid 3.5-4m with Masterchef out of the way.
Strong peaktime ratings for ITV3 and ITV4 and ITV's Tuesday woes are temporarily forgotten about as they win primetime. Also next weeks Homes From Hell series should bring in a solid 3.5-4m with Masterchef out of the way.
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