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The Ratings Thread (Part 3 (3))
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C14E
26-02-2009
Originally Posted by gottago:
“Actually, I'll give you that! I think the semis in whichever way they're done are the major weakness in the Idols format and is just another thing TXF does right by eliminating them.

Also adding the mentor element to the judges gives them a purpose, as otherwise (like in Idol) they're sitting around for 10 weeks giving gradually more useless comments as the poorer contestants get eliminated.”

I also think that separating the contestants into 4 categories of 3 makes them easier to remember. You can remember the "old" ones, the groups and their mentors. Whereas at this stage of Idol the numerous 20 somethings can get easily confused.

Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“I think the only real threat to FOX and American Idol is CBS, NCIS and The Mentalist are the only real competition at the moment and if they increase in viewerships which is very likely for The Mentalist then we could some decline for Idol on Tuesdays.”

I don't think it should be too much of a problem. They're attracting very different audiences which I think is why CBS are thriving in that slot. I'd actually say being against something like Lost is more concerning for Idol than The Mentalist. Obviously what they don't want The Mentalist to overtake in total viewers, but that will be more due to pride and image.
Jonwo
26-02-2009
Originally Posted by C14E:
“I don't think it should be too much of a problem. They're attracting very different audiences which I think is why CBS are thriving in that slot. I'd actually say being against something like Lost is more concerning for Idol than The Mentalist. Obviously what they don't want The Mentalist to overtake in total viewers, but that will be more due to pride and image.”

I forgot about Lost, with the final season in 2010, it could see a boost and it's attracts younger audiences which is important to advertisers and FOX thrives on them with American Idol. What shows attract big 18-49s aside from Idol.

It will be interesting to see if The Mentalist does hit the 20m mark whether it will be this season or next. CSI is still a big hit but it is declining due to its age and it won't be long before the current cast decide to leave.
C14E
26-02-2009
Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“I forgot about Lost, with the final season in 2010, it could see a boost and it's attracts younger audiences which is important to advertisers and FOX thrives on them with American Idol. What shows attract big 18-49s aside from Idol. ”

For last week:

1. Academy Awards - 15,949,000 ABC
2. American Idol (Tues) - 12,647,000 FOX
3. American Idol (Wed) - 11,938,000 FOX
4. Oscars Red Carpet - 9,540,000 ABC
5. Greys Anatomy - 7,832,000 ABC
6. House - 6,862,000 FOX
7. Lost - 6,803,000 ABC
8. Survivor - 5,957,000 CBS
9. The Bachelor - 5,850,000 ABC
10. CSI - 5,832,000 CBS

Complete Top 20

The Mentalist and NCIS came in 14th and 15th.
Jonwo
26-02-2009
Originally Posted by C14E:
“For last week:

1. Academy Awards - 15,949,000 ABC
2. American Idol (Tues) - 12,647,000 FOX
3. American Idol (Wed) - 11,938,000 FOX
4. Oscars Red Carpet - 9,540,000 ABC
5. Greys Anatomy - 7,832,000 ABC
6. House - 6,862,000 FOX
7. Lost - 6,803,000 ABC
8. Survivor - 5,957,000 CBS
9. The Bachelor - 5,850,000 ABC
10. CSI - 5,832,000 CBS

Complete Top 20

The Mentalist and NCIS came in 14th and 15th.”

The Top 5 don't surprise me but House surprises me as it surely appeals to the same sort of audience that the CBS shows gets. Despite Grey's slipping in ratings, it's still a hit in the 18-49s which is why its future is secure for a few more years.
Pizzatheaction
26-02-2009
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“It was Barbara Windsor”

Ah, yes! I remember now!
Pizzatheaction
26-02-2009
Originally Posted by rzt:
“I agree. But I just read what ITV think about the ratings:

It came third/fourth at various times in its slot, so dunno what the ITV Sport spokesman is on.”

Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“Note sure but a few lessons on calling a spade a spade wouldnt go amiss.”

Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Enough people want to do down ITV without their own spokeman joining in. ”

RobbieSykes123
27-02-2009
Originally Posted by craig-maclellan:
“I'm sure that Five Days was recommissioned after it's initial run, but we've never seen anything since. I suppose this move is maybe after the poor performance from the Hunter pilot that was on earlier in the year.”

Not that poor - it got 5.7m and 5.4m didn't it?

And it was badly scheduled, it would have got an easy 6m with a fairer wind.

Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“ However I feel ITV really only wanted the England matches.”

Well, they wanted the large audiences that BBC1 was getting for the England matches, anyway.

And on the evidence so far, they haven't got them.
Dancc
27-02-2009
Originally Posted by Agent F:
“It's called spin. It's very rare for ITV to publicly acknowledge disappointing ratings.”

Yeah, but not very good spin. Comments like "the coverage attracted a 14% share but we still faired very well against our competitors" just makes them look foolish.
Cent
27-02-2009
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“just makes them look foolish.”

Whats new?
Dancc
27-02-2009
Originally Posted by Cent:
“Whats new? ”

LOL, fair point.
D.M.N.
27-02-2009
Thursday 26th February 2009
Channel 4 [inc +1]
18:00 - The Simpsons - 2.05m
18:30 - Hollyoaks - 1.87m
20:00 - 10 Years Younger: The Challenge - 1.95m
21:00 - Love, Life And Death In A Day - 1.97m
22:00 - Snowstorm: Britain's Big Freeze - 1.83m

E4 [inc +1]
22:00 - Skins 6/10 - 921,000

Film4 [inc +1]
18:45 - FILM: Batman And Robin - 204,000
21:00 - FILM: The Magdalene Sisters - 172,500

More4 [inc +1]
21:00 - ER - 588,000

All-Day Shares
BBC One - 22.1% (last week: 20.5%)
ITV1 - 16.6% (17.3%)
BBC Two - 9.5% (7.4%)
Channel 4* - 8.5% (8.3%)
five - 4.2% (5.2%)
Multichannel - 39.1% (41.3%)

* = inc +1

Source: Channel 4 Sales

Looking at that, it suggests to me that BBC One won virtually all of primetime, with a high rating for the Wendy Richards' possible. Anything above 6m should be expected.
KennyT
27-02-2009
BBC2:
Masterchef 5.2m (21%),
Margaret 2.6m (12%).

Source Broadcast.

K
hopeandfaith06
27-02-2009
Billy Connolly: Journey to the Edge of the World: 4.3m (18%)

Source: Twitter
D.M.N.
27-02-2009
Originally Posted by hopeandfaith06:
“Billy Connolly: Journey to the Edge of the World: 4.3m (18%)

Source: Twitter”

Only a drop of 400,000 is pretty good I guess. MasterChef also did very well.
GeorgeS
27-02-2009
BBC1
8pm Wendy Richard Tribute 5.3m 21.8%
9pm Crimewatch 4m 17.2%

BBC2
8pm Masterchef final 5.2m 20.8%
9pm Margaret 2.6m 12%

Source: brandrepublic
D.M.N.
27-02-2009
Thursday 26th February 2009
BBC One
19:30 - EastEnders - 9.29m (40.5%)
20:00 - Wendy Richard: A Tribute - 5.31m (21.9%)
20:30 - The Green Green Grass - 3.7m (15%)
21:00 - Crimewatch - 4.08m (17.3%)

BBC Two
20:00 - MasterChef - 5.16m (20.9%)
- Peak: 5.99m (23.5%) @ 20:50
21:00 - Margaret - 2.58m (12%)

ITV1
19:00 - Emmerdale - 6.75m (31.3%)
20:00 - The Bill - 4.32m (17.5%)
21:00 - Billy Connolly: Journey To The Edge Of The World - 4.33m (18.3%)

Channel 4
18:00 - The Simpsons - 2.05m [inc +1]
18:30 - Hollyoaks - 1.72m (8.4%) [117,000 (0.6%)]
20:00 - 10 Years Younger: The Challenge - 1.69 (6.9%) [+1: 260,000]
21:00 - Love, Life And Death In A Day - 1.75m (7.4%) [+1: 220,000]
22:00 - Snowstorm: Britain's Big Freeze - 1.83m [inc +1]

five
17:30 - Neighbours - 1.53m (9.8%)
18:00 - Home and Away - 1.02m (5.5%)
20:00 - Steam Train Monster Moves - 990,000 (4%)
21:00 - FILM: Freedomland - 1.09m (5.3%)

BBC Three
22:00 - EastEnders - 672,000 (3.6%)

ITV2
21:00 - Paris Hilton's British Best Friend - 461,000 (2.2%)

ITV4
19:00 - UEFA Cup Live: Manchester City vs FC Copenhagen - 1.09m (~4.6%)

E4
19:00 - Hollyoaks - 564,000 (2.9%) [+1: 105,000 (0.5%)]
22:00 - Skins 6/10 - 760,000 [+1: 161,000]

Film4 [inc +1]
18:45 - FILM: Batman And Robin - 204,000
21:00 - FILM: The Magdalene Sisters - 172,500

More4 [inc +1]
21:00 - ER - 588,000

fiver
18:30 - Home and Away - 671,000 (3.7%)
19:00 - Neighbours - 253,000 (1.3%)

Sky1
21:00 - Bones - 573,000 (2.7%)

All-Day Shares
BBC One - 22.1% (last week: 20.5%)
ITV1 - 16.6% (17.3%)
BBC Two - 9.5% (7.4%)
Channel 4* - 8.5% (8.3%)
five - 4.2% (5.2%)
Multichannel - 39.1% (41.3%)

Primetime Shares
BBC One - 22.2% (last week: 21.3%)
ITV1 - 17% (18.8%)
BBC Two - 12.5% (8.5%)
Channel 4 - 6.8% (7.1%)
five - 4.1% (5.6%)

* = inc +1

Source: Channel 4 Sales, DS (1), (2), MG
cylon6
27-02-2009
It was a nice tribute to Wendy Richard and I was glad it did well. Also I liked the fact that she never lost her cockney accent. RIP Wendy.

These ITV travelogue shows are doing quite well 4.3 million for Billy Connolly is quite respectable. A good night for BBC2 though with Masterchef doing the business, the Thatcher show did okay as well.
GeorgeS
27-02-2009
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Yeah, but not very good spin. Comments like "the coverage attracted a 14% share but we still faired very well against our competitors" just makes them look foolish.”

Depends who their competitors are. For the ad market, its not the BBC is it?

I doubt he was adressing us on DS.
Scoobyh1
27-02-2009
Is that the best overnight rating of Paris Hiltons BBF?

I could of sworn thats the highest i've seen it...
D.M.N.
27-02-2009
Someone over at MG needs to get their facts right:

"MasterChef was beaten by BBC1's Rogue Traders over its first half hour, with the consumer show picking up 5.3 million and a 22% share, while BBC1's comedy The Green Green Grass fell back with 3.7 million and a 15% share between 8.30pm and 9pm."

In case they don't realise that was never shown.
GeorgeS
27-02-2009
ITV4
19:00 - UEFA Cup Live: Manchester City vs FC Copenhagen - 1.09m (~4.6%)
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Good figure for the full 3 hours coverage. Would suggest the match itself did much better.
chatcat
27-02-2009
Anyone kno the rating for Skyone at 8pm last night?
jde-tv
27-02-2009
Eastenders got a boost last night with the deth of wendy, the program about her was really good though, was is made yesterday? Paris hiltons BBF has still got 100% of its premier viewers :O
D.M.N.
27-02-2009
Originally Posted by jde-tv:
“Eastenders got a boost last night with the deth of wendy, the program about her was really good though, was is made yesterday?”

It would have been put together weeks in advance ready for air as her cancer was terminal.
Dancc
27-02-2009
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“ITV4
19:00 - UEFA Cup Live: Manchester City vs FC Copenhagen - 1.09m (~4.6%)
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Good figure for the full 3 hours coverage. Would suggest the match itself did much better.”

Forgive me as I know very little about football, but with ratings like that why was this hidden away on ITV4 while a seemingly lower profile game involving Middlesbrough was broadcast on ITV1 a few nights ago?

Seems a little odd to me but I must stress I am not a footie man.
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