I mean who comes up with ideas for these shows? If it's not a copy it's a rehash of past successful shows. It's just so lazy. These tv execs. don't seem to have any imagination anymore :sleep:

some more from broadcast:

BBC1
10pm News 5.3m 25.1%
10.20pm Damages 1.5m 9.2%

BBC2

10pm Never Mind the Buzzcocks 1.1m 5.4%
10.30pm High Altitude 640,000 3.9%

Five
10pm The Devil's Own 575,000 2.7%

FX
10pm Generation Kill 32,000 0.2%

Sky 1
10pm The Beach 88,000 0.8%

Living
10pm Criminal Minds 145,000 0.9%

Great for Piers Morgan's show, glad its doing well because its a good concept and Piers surprisingly is coming off well. Its becoming a nice little ratings puller for ITV now

Actually I went to the pilot recording of Tonights the Night and it was fantastic!

It was nothing like the blurb at all - it was a variety show in which members of the public and famous people sing and dance (musical numbers plus other songs). Fingers crossed the proper shows should be as good

Sounds intriguing. Who were the famous people? Did John get up and sing himself? What kind of things went on?

A couple of other notes on scheduling/programming/whatever.

The next 20 episode series of Waterloo Road has been confirmed:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009...ies-television

And probably the worst kept secret at the BBC, Masterchef is be promoted (or should that be re-promoted) to BBC1:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009...f-moves-to-bbc

A great night for ITV1. I really thought I would have disliked Piers Morgan's chat show, but I watched it properly for the first time last night and I found it really interesting and Piers may be dislikeable to me, but there's something that kept me watching. Glad to see that it's a hit.

Good figure for Wild at Heart too. There have been rumours of ITV axing it because of the programme being too expensive to make, but surely 8 million is enough of a good figure to keep it going?

DOI continues to be the reliable big hitter BBC1 holding up well and Lost staying consistent.

A good night all round.

Also I'm glad to hear Waterloo Road's next series has been confirmed

None too surprisingly, BBC1's offerings were not popular among younger viewers last night. For the whole day, BBC1 only had an 8.6% share of 16-34's (but was stronger with ABC1 viewers on 22.1%), Channel 4 were second with 11.8% and ITV1 were first on 14.6%. BBC2 were close to BBC1 with 6.9%.

ITV2 beat E4 with 3.2% to 3%. Sky1 were on 2.9%, BBC3 had 2.8% and More4 were surprisingly high with 2.5% ahead of Dave on 2.2%.

Great night for ITV1 with DoI and Life Stories doing well and WaH is benefitting from a strong lead in. BBC One did well too with Lark Rise and The Victorians though it will be interesting to see how No 1 Ladies Detective Agency does.

BBC Two did wel with Engineering Connections and Monty Hall both pulling in 2m and CDWM and She's The Man did well for Channel 4 while Five did poorly with House and CSI repeats but it was a very late schedule change so it may be expected. They will do better next week with Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby and Superman.

Why did FIVE have a late schedule change last night? What was wrong with the scheduled film? An awful night for them with nothing making the 1m mark.

Fantastic night for ITV1 providing a great schedule throughout peaktime. WAH also picks up its best rating of the series and DOI Skate Off has definetely taken off as it enters the final stages of the competition. And Life Stories has to be up there in ITV's biggest successes of the year to date with Whitechapel, Above Suspicion etc because it must take thousands less to produce and performs excellently in a generally tough slot for ITV and has to be one of the highest rated original 10pm comissions in recent years. I can't think of much else to top that in recent years excluding shows already transmitted in other slots like XF and IAC.

BBC1 held up fairly well and No1 Ladies should start decently next week, although it could prove fatal up against the semi final of a show which viewers aren't just going to turn off at during the final hurdle. The scheduling of the DOI final will be very interesting indeed with ITV already promoting Lewis which suggests it will be the next Sunday night drama to air (before Kingdom). Will ITV have a similar schedule to last year with one long DOI show from 7-9pm then Lewis? And if so will Piers be delayed for a week?

Regarding BBC1's recomissions, fantastic that WR has been recomissioned and it will be interesting to see where BBC1 air it. However moving Masterchef to BBC1 is an awful idea imo, because just look at last weeks BBC2 schedule with everything considerably down. Also with Masterchef on BBC1 it is harder to schedule around stable programmes (i.e. Holby) and will not pick up a much bigger audience than it does on BBC2 I don't think.

Good news regarding Waterloo Road. Not happy about MasterChef. Why aren't BBC2 allowed hits of their own without them inevitably losing them to BBC1 (exception being Top Gear), when the ratings rise?

I would expect BBC1 to have about 15% for 16-34 once the F1 returns as that has viewers in that demographic. I'm very interested to see what the Jade Goody Special gets for ITV today (which was a late schedule change made late last week):


I think this might dent EastEnders a little. Anything around about 3/4m would be good.

I would say it wouldn't get much more than a normal Tonight episode due to TV mags not listing it, but its in a Corrie sandwich where 10m people will know about it, so I'd expect at least 4m considering the medias take on the whole situation over the past few weeks.

The Devil's Own was scheduled but deemed inappropriate for broadcast following events in Northern Ireland on Saturday.

John seems to be a jack of all trades but master of none.


I like Piers. Yes, he can be a smarmy git but he's a very good interviewer and always seems to get the best out of his guests which is what you need with a format like this. I wonder how the 'Uncut' 90 minute version will do tonight on ITV2.

The Devil's Own was supposed to be the film but they must be either had a problem with the tape or it wasn't deemed suitable.

I don't get the Masterchef moving to BBC One as unlike The Apprentice and QI, it's much harder to schedule and I agree it's not going to increase much. QI is probably evidence of a BBC Two to BBC One show that didn't increase and should have probably stayed on BBC Two. I wonder if Profensional Masterchef will remain on BBC Two.

It must be annoying for BBC Two to have yet another show move to BBC One, they're lucky that Top Gear remains on the channel otherwise they would never have a big hitter on the channel.

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There's a few other commissions on the way:

Also on the way there's Tonight's the Night with John Barrowman (yes, I know - again!!!) - http://www.bbc.co.uk/showsandtours/b...tainment.shtml.

Aw man, i'm going to have to start going out again on saturdays, been trying to give my liver a rest too


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Sunday 8th March 2009
USA Overnight Ratings

7.00pm:
CBS - 60 Minutes..........................13.13m.......2.3/7.....1.3/5
ABC - Funniest Home Video's..........6.97m.......2.0/6.....1.5/6
NBC - Saturday Night Live Clips......3.35m.......1.3/4.....1.1/?
FOX - Hole In The Wall....................2.59m.......1.2/4.....1.1/4

8.00pm:
CBS - The Amazing Race...............10.22m........3.0/8.....2.1/6
ABC - Extreme Makeover................9.45m.........3.0/8....2.1/7
NBC - Saturday Night Live Clips......6.01m.........2.2/6....1.6/5
FOX - The Simpsons........................5.99m.........2.8/8....3.1/10
8.30pm:
FOX - King of the Hill........................4.92m........2.4/6.....2.8/8

9.00pm:
ABC - Desperate Housewives..........13.50m.......4.7/11...3.6/9
CBS - Cold Case...............................12.56m......3.0/7.....1.8/5
FOX - Family Guy................................7.18m.......3.7/9.....4.5/12
NBC - Celebrity Apprentice.................7.14m.......2.9/7.....1.9/5
9.30pm:
FOX - American Dad............................5.32m.......2.7/6.....3.2/9

10.00pm:
ABC - Brothers and Sisters..............10.50m........3.5/9.....2.7/7
CBS - The Unit...................................9.43m.........2.3/6....1.6/4
NBC - Celebrity Apprentice................8.05m.........3.4/8.....2.3/6

NETWORKS:
CBS - 11.33m & 2.6/7
ABC - 10.10m & 3.3/9
NBC - 6.14m & 2.4/7
FOX - 4.76m & 2.3/6

NOTES:[LIST][*]No repeats on the big 4 last night!!!!![*]18-34 network data not posted, source appears to be wrong[*]Desperate Housewives is really struggling now. [*]FOX claimed the 18-34 demographic between 8pm and 10pm.[*]Hole In The Wall dragged FOX down a lot, maybe it needs Dale Winton and some zelebs?[/LIST]

Desperate Housewives is still doing well demo and viewership wise though I agree it is down. CBS did well with Cold Case, 60 Minutes and The Amazing Race though I think The Unit will be axed at the end of the season. The Celebrity Apprentice is doing okay for NBC and the FOX animation sitcoms seem low ratings wise but did well in the demo.

I do think CBS should consider reworking their Sunday Line-up by having a new drama at 8pm and 10pm and move The Amazing Race to Thursday between runs of Survivor.

Isn't 13.50m good for Desperate Housewives? I know Season 1 rated much higher in the US, but it still was the top rated show of the night in America.

I am surprised Family Guy rated higher than The Simpsons. I would have thought the latter were a ratings puller.

Is this the same rubbish as in the UK? If so te he heeee!!

It's good compared to other shows on the night, but way off its former highs. Even earlier this series it was still able to get 16m viewers.


Minus Dale Winton and the celebrities, yes. IIRC, it was the lowest rated series on the big 4 networks last year but is also the cheapest and so got recommissioned in a fairly unimportant slot.

EDIT:

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment...1195893.story?

LA Times article about Law and Order: UK and the possibility of it either going to the US on Saturday nights or else to BBC America.

The scheduling for DH since Jan has been awful.

But as Lets Dance shows us, people will watch. And so long as they keep watching, BBC will keep on pumping out celebrities dancing, or in this case, doing the same thing as normal people are doing over on ITV1. No doubt it will get 5-6 million, though.

Really, we should all be pitching ideas to BBC1 having seen how easy it is. Celebrities Riverdance for St Patricks Day sounds like a good bet. It's a good vehicle for Graham Norton as well.

ITV seem to have halted the talent shows. Nothing new since the summer of 2007 and it would appear nothing new commissioned for all of 2009. They seem to have settled on the 3 big event shows. Even the development deal with Simon Fuller is looking at new formats and not talent shows. When Cowell's deal is announced, I suspect the new productions from him may still be shiny floor shows, but not talent formats.