Originally Posted by Agent F:
“Two repeats, the lottery, and Casualty. It's enough to drive you to drink.”
“Two repeats, the lottery, and Casualty. It's enough to drive you to drink.”
Thank God for ITV!
The Ratings Thread (Part 3 (3))
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So then, is this really the masterplan for BBC One every weeknight?
1800 News
1900 The One Show
2000 EastEnders
2030 Primetime (variable)
2200 News
:yawn: :sleep:
1800 News
1900 The One Show
2000 EastEnders
2030 Primetime (variable)
2200 News
:yawn: :sleep:
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“So then, is this really the masterplan for BBC One every weeknight?
1800 News
1900 The One Show
2000 EastEnders
2030 Primetime (variable)
2200 News
:yawn: :sleep:”
“So then, is this really the masterplan for BBC One every weeknight?
1800 News
1900 The One Show
2000 EastEnders
2030 Primetime (variable)
2200 News
:yawn: :sleep:”
Close but not quite:
1800 News
1900 The One Show
2000 EastEnders
2030 Masterchef
2100 Primetime (variable)
2200 News
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Am I right that more people would probably be watching tele on Sundays from say between 15:00 to 17:00 (i.e. mid afternoon) compared to, say 13:00 to 15:00?
The BBC have released the F1 scheduling details, which has the F1 re-run on the Sunday, March 29th down as from 13:00 to 15:00. From a ratings perspective, I think the Beeb have committed an own goal, and really should have scheduled it later on in the afternoon from 15:00 to 17:00/17:30 so more people would have been able to watch it compared to earlier in the day. Had it been scheduled for 15:00 to 17:30, 4m and over would probably have watched it, but now that the re-run is on earlier, I don't see the figures going above 4m (I'd be surprised if it does - unless a British driver wins). Last year, ITV's schedule was [thanks to EmilioLargo for these]:
04:30 to 07:30: 810,000 (54.43%) [Live]
15:00 to 18:00: 3.75m (23.01%) [Re-Run]
~23:45 to 00:45: 305,000 (7.71%) [Highlights]
Total Race Audience - 4.86m (full ITV F1 ratings can be found here)
I think by scheduling the re-run earlier at 13:00 the rating might be a little bit lower (although I guess the live rating will be significantly higher as the race will be on from 06:00 to 09:00 this year - anything ~1.5/2m would be good for the live broadcast).”
“Am I right that more people would probably be watching tele on Sundays from say between 15:00 to 17:00 (i.e. mid afternoon) compared to, say 13:00 to 15:00?
The BBC have released the F1 scheduling details, which has the F1 re-run on the Sunday, March 29th down as from 13:00 to 15:00. From a ratings perspective, I think the Beeb have committed an own goal, and really should have scheduled it later on in the afternoon from 15:00 to 17:00/17:30 so more people would have been able to watch it compared to earlier in the day. Had it been scheduled for 15:00 to 17:30, 4m and over would probably have watched it, but now that the re-run is on earlier, I don't see the figures going above 4m (I'd be surprised if it does - unless a British driver wins). Last year, ITV's schedule was [thanks to EmilioLargo for these]:
04:30 to 07:30: 810,000 (54.43%) [Live]
15:00 to 18:00: 3.75m (23.01%) [Re-Run]
~23:45 to 00:45: 305,000 (7.71%) [Highlights]
Total Race Audience - 4.86m (full ITV F1 ratings can be found here)
I think by scheduling the re-run earlier at 13:00 the rating might be a little bit lower (although I guess the live rating will be significantly higher as the race will be on from 06:00 to 09:00 this year - anything ~1.5/2m would be good for the live broadcast).”
I think they've gone with this scheudle as it will give them a bit of stability on a Sunday, with the Politics Show @ 12pm, followed by F1 @ 1pm.
Also, scheduling it 3pm - 5pm would clash with the Premiership footie on Sky. It's usually at this time on a Sunday that the big games are on, so since they appeal to the same audience, the BBC probably don't won't to be losing viewers to it.
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Close but not quite:
1800 News
1900 The One Show
2000 EastEnders
2030 Masterchef
2100 Primetime (variable)
2200 News”
“Close but not quite:
1800 News
1900 The One Show
2000 EastEnders
2030 Masterchef
2100 Primetime (variable)
2200 News”
But what about Waterloo Road?!! You mustn't forget about Waterloo Road!!
Interesting article from Broadcast:
Dramas are a hit for ITV1
Dramas are a hit for ITV1
Quote:
“Despite ITV1's dismal annual results, its drama output seems to be in good shape.
Remember ITV1's The Palace, The Fixer or Pierrepoint?
Probably not, because chances are you didn't watch them and ITV probably wishes it could forget them altogether.”
“Despite ITV1's dismal annual results, its drama output seems to be in good shape.
Remember ITV1's The Palace, The Fixer or Pierrepoint?
Probably not, because chances are you didn't watch them and ITV probably wishes it could forget them altogether.”
Originally Posted by Agent F:
“But what about Waterloo Road?!! You mustn't forget about Waterloo Road!!”
“But what about Waterloo Road?!! You mustn't forget about Waterloo Road!!
”
Ah yes. In that 9pm 'primetime' slot there could be a rota.
Monday: Waterloo Road
Tuesday: Holby City
Wednesday: Holby Blue
Thursday: Holby Green
Friday: Casualty 1066
Has 'ratings smash' all over it.
I mentioned this on another forum but it was great to see the Formula One trailer on BBC1 with the Fleetwood Mac theme at the end.
Originally Posted by Score:
“Ah yes. In that 9pm 'primetime' slot there could be a rota.
Monday: Waterloo Road
Tuesday: Holby City
Wednesday: Holby Blue
Thursday: Holby Green
Friday: Casualty 1066
Has 'ratings smash' all over it.”
“Ah yes. In that 9pm 'primetime' slot there could be a rota.
Monday: Waterloo Road
Tuesday: Holby City
Wednesday: Holby Blue
Thursday: Holby Green
Friday: Casualty 1066
Has 'ratings smash' all over it.”
Frighteningly that isn't too far off what people have been suggesting.
Originally Posted by Agent F:
“Frighteningly that isn't too far off what people have been suggesting.”
“Frighteningly that isn't too far off what people have been suggesting.”
As long as Channel 4 runs with
Monday : Come Dine With Me
Tuesday : Grand Designs : Come Dine With Me Special
Wednesday : Secret Millionaire : Come Dine With Me Special
Thursday : Gordons Ramsays Come Dine With Me Kitchen Nightmares
Friday : Come Fly With Me, a Come Dine With Me Special
Originally Posted by Ambassador:
“As long as Channel 4 runs with
Monday : Come Dine With Me
Tuesday : Grand Designs : Come Dine With Me Special
Wednesday : Secret Millionaire : Come Dine With Me Special
Thursday : Gordons Ramsays Come Dine With Me Kitchen Nightmares
Friday : Come Fly With Me, a Come Dine With Me Special”
“As long as Channel 4 runs with
Monday : Come Dine With Me
Tuesday : Grand Designs : Come Dine With Me Special
Wednesday : Secret Millionaire : Come Dine With Me Special
Thursday : Gordons Ramsays Come Dine With Me Kitchen Nightmares
Friday : Come Fly With Me, a Come Dine With Me Special”
Heheh
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“I mentioned this on another forum but it was great to see the Formula One trailer on BBC1 with the Fleetwood Mac theme at the end.”
“I mentioned this on another forum but it was great to see the Formula One trailer on BBC1 with the Fleetwood Mac theme at the end.
”
Given that we are still two weeks away from the start of the new season, guaranteed you'll see the full trailer a lot more before the lights go in Melbourne.
(I'm just hoping Brundle or EJ don't say anything even vaguely offensive otherwise the Daily Mail will be over them in a flash.
)
I think the reason people don't remember Pierrepoint is because it was a feature film shown on the August Bank Holiday last year - not ITV drama.
Also, ITV will be hoping people remember The Fixer since it's coming back for a second series.
Also, ITV will be hoping people remember The Fixer since it's coming back for a second series.
[quote=Agent F;31294833]Two repeats, the lottery, and Casualty. It's enough to drive you to drink.
The BBC and ITV seem to have very different strategies for when to deploy new material, and thus get criticised at different times of the year.
The BBC really pile huge amounts of new dramas/comedies/TV films into the Christmas and New Year period, and also into the autumn. Over Christmas and New Year, BBC1 probably aired five to ten times more new material (excluding soaps) than ITV1.
Conversely, ITV1 seem to concentrate a lot of their new material in the January to March period, with the result that since the New Year the balance has been entirely the other way, especially in the last few weeks.
Now, of course it would be nice if our two main channels had the resources to air wholly new, absolutely massive, new series for every minute of every day.
But with both facing some cash constraints - ITV1 because its advertising revenues are in free fall, BBC1 because the Government did not give the Corporation the licence fee settlement it wanted - that is not going to happen anytime soon.
As it happens, I reckon we are pretty well served by what we end up with - which is new, successful, series or specials almost every month of the year on at least one of the two main channels (with the possible exception of the summer, when even so both channels still air much more new material than they did 20 or 30 years ago).
But that doesn't, of course, stop ITV being slammed for being hopeless over Christmas/New Year and BBC being slammed for not trying in March.
The BBC and ITV seem to have very different strategies for when to deploy new material, and thus get criticised at different times of the year.
The BBC really pile huge amounts of new dramas/comedies/TV films into the Christmas and New Year period, and also into the autumn. Over Christmas and New Year, BBC1 probably aired five to ten times more new material (excluding soaps) than ITV1.
Conversely, ITV1 seem to concentrate a lot of their new material in the January to March period, with the result that since the New Year the balance has been entirely the other way, especially in the last few weeks.
Now, of course it would be nice if our two main channels had the resources to air wholly new, absolutely massive, new series for every minute of every day.
But with both facing some cash constraints - ITV1 because its advertising revenues are in free fall, BBC1 because the Government did not give the Corporation the licence fee settlement it wanted - that is not going to happen anytime soon.
As it happens, I reckon we are pretty well served by what we end up with - which is new, successful, series or specials almost every month of the year on at least one of the two main channels (with the possible exception of the summer, when even so both channels still air much more new material than they did 20 or 30 years ago).
But that doesn't, of course, stop ITV being slammed for being hopeless over Christmas/New Year and BBC being slammed for not trying in March.
Quote:
“Originally Posted by GeorgeS (on The One Show thread)
you cant expect PSB commitment from BBC1 when its in full ratings chasing mode”
“Originally Posted by GeorgeS (on The One Show thread)
you cant expect PSB commitment from BBC1 when its in full ratings chasing mode”
So, GeorgeS finally accepts that The One Show is a ratings winner, a hit, a banker?
Corrie chiefs should be afraid, very afraid...
Originally Posted by mr_scotty2hotty:
“Why are people not watching Waterloo Road?”
“Why are people not watching Waterloo Road?”
They're not really watching The Bill either are they?
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“dabbling in things ITV doesn't understand e.g. the internet)”
“dabbling in things ITV doesn't understand e.g. the internet)”
You could also have said: quality football coverage, news, documentary, comedy, popular non-crime drama....
Originally Posted by ZoeMcCallister:
“Also interesting to see My Family taking the Thurs 8pm slot after the latest 2 comedies flopped. It's never going to live up to the 6m/7m it was getting a while back”
“Also interesting to see My Family taking the Thurs 8pm slot after the latest 2 comedies flopped. It's never going to live up to the 6m/7m it was getting a while back”
Its most recent episode got 7.7m on a Wednesday night - also after EastEnders (24/12/08).
Didn't it air in the 8pm Thursday slot for its first couple of series when it got 10m a show, before getting the 8.30 Friday slot?
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“The BBC have released the F1 scheduling details, which has the F1 re-run on the Sunday, March 29th down as from 13:00 to 15:00. From a ratings perspective, I think the Beeb have committed an own goal, and really should have scheduled it later on in the afternoon.”
“The BBC have released the F1 scheduling details, which has the F1 re-run on the Sunday, March 29th down as from 13:00 to 15:00. From a ratings perspective, I think the Beeb have committed an own goal, and really should have scheduled it later on in the afternoon.”
Yeah, but the BBC isn't all about chasing ratings, whatever George thinks. That's ITV's role.
I think it makes sense actually because most races in the season will air around 1pm, so it's good to get people into the habit.
I think the live showing will get great ratings anyway. The Oz race has tended to air about 3/4am, but this year starts at 7am I believe. I think many will be up to watch live - I can't wait!
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Just looking at it now (here it is for anyone who hasn't yet seen):
Saturday
17:20 - Six Nations Rugby
19:30 - Total Wipeout (R)
20:25 - Lottery
20:35 - Casualty
21:25 - Live at the Apollo (R)
22:10 - News
22:30 - Match of the Day
22:50 - A Question of Sport”
“Just looking at it now (here it is for anyone who hasn't yet seen):
Saturday
17:20 - Six Nations Rugby
19:30 - Total Wipeout (R)
20:25 - Lottery
20:35 - Casualty
21:25 - Live at the Apollo (R)
22:10 - News
22:30 - Match of the Day
22:50 - A Question of Sport”
Will probably beat ITV1 all night.
I was watching a Comic Relief appeal earlier and it said for every minute early that the One Show starts early...a small African village is wiped out
Anyway...
Anyway...
BTW, I hope Comic Relief Does the Apprentice gets the big ratings its deserves - the TV highlight of 2009 so far for me.
Will be disappointed if it doesn't clear 7m.
Will be disappointed if it doesn't clear 7m.
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“BTW, I hope Comic Relief Does the Apprentice gets the big ratings its deserves - the TV highlight of 2009 so far for me.
Will be disappointed if it doesn't clear 7m.”
“BTW, I hope Comic Relief Does the Apprentice gets the big ratings its deserves - the TV highlight of 2009 so far for me.
Will be disappointed if it doesn't clear 7m.”
It wasn't spectacular but it did make me want the new series to start sooner than ever.
Because of the CR and celebrity tagged I pvr'd it and watched it at 10...ending up skipping a lot of it but was entertaining enough
Bring on the victims in the real apprentice!
Sorry to see you go, Polonius. 
Hope you enjoy reading still.
As for last night...bad for the big two. ITV must be bracing themselves for the disaster approaching them tomrrow, but Taggart didn't exactly set the world alight. The Bill did ok, Waterloo Road poor but the storylines are becoming so far away from the original premise of the show I'm not surprised.
As for extending The One Show to an hour, I think personally it'll be a massive mistake, unless they add a chat show element to it. Magazine shows work best in half hour packages, extending it will over expose it I think. I guess with EastEnders being in the 8pm slot it opens up the 8.30pm slot for the comedies on every weekday minus Wednesday. But still think it's a lazy move from a channel who should be trying harder against ITV's soaps.
Hope you enjoy reading still. As for last night...bad for the big two. ITV must be bracing themselves for the disaster approaching them tomrrow, but Taggart didn't exactly set the world alight. The Bill did ok, Waterloo Road poor but the storylines are becoming so far away from the original premise of the show I'm not surprised.
As for extending The One Show to an hour, I think personally it'll be a massive mistake, unless they add a chat show element to it. Magazine shows work best in half hour packages, extending it will over expose it I think. I guess with EastEnders being in the 8pm slot it opens up the 8.30pm slot for the comedies on every weekday minus Wednesday. But still think it's a lazy move from a channel who should be trying harder against ITV's soaps.
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“BTW, I hope Comic Relief Does the Apprentice gets the big ratings its deserves - the TV highlight of 2009 so far for me.
Will be disappointed if it doesn't clear 7m.”
“BTW, I hope Comic Relief Does the Apprentice gets the big ratings its deserves - the TV highlight of 2009 so far for me.
Will be disappointed if it doesn't clear 7m.”
Jack Dee was the only real highlight. His comments about Nick in the preview for tomorrow's show
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“BTW, I hope Comic Relief Does the Apprentice gets the big ratings its deserves - the TV highlight of 2009 so far for me.
Will be disappointed if it doesn't clear 7m.”
“BTW, I hope Comic Relief Does the Apprentice gets the big ratings its deserves - the TV highlight of 2009 so far for me.
Will be disappointed if it doesn't clear 7m.”
I doubt it will, the promotion was a bit rubbish.
The thread was down in posts quite a fair bit too. During series 4, it was getting 30 or so pages per episode.
If the population was made up soley of DSers then last night would have got around (based on pages per million) 3.44 mil viewers.
Luckily and hopefully, we're not that representitive.
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“BTW, I hope Comic Relief Does the Apprentice gets the big ratings its deserves - the TV highlight of 2009 so far for me.
Will be disappointed if it doesn't clear 7m.”
“BTW, I hope Comic Relief Does the Apprentice gets the big ratings its deserves - the TV highlight of 2009 so far for me.
Will be disappointed if it doesn't clear 7m.”
It wasn't as good as I was expecting. The first Comic Relief special was fantastic but they haven't managed to top it with the celebrity versions since. At least the real deal is just around the corner.
Originally Posted by Digital Sid:
“I doubt it will, the promotion was a bit rubbish.
The thread was down in posts quite a fair bit too. During series 4, it was getting 30 or so pages per episode.
If the population was made up soley of DSers then last night would have got around (based on pages per million) 3.44 mil viewers.
Luckily and hopefully, we're not that representitive.”
“I doubt it will, the promotion was a bit rubbish.
The thread was down in posts quite a fair bit too. During series 4, it was getting 30 or so pages per episode.
If the population was made up soley of DSers then last night would have got around (based on pages per million) 3.44 mil viewers.
Luckily and hopefully, we're not that representitive.”
I saw loads of trailers for this on BBC1 at various times of the day, I'm surprised to hear people say that they didn't see many trailers for it.
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“I saw loads of trailers for this on BBC1 at various times of the day, I'm surprised to hear people say that they didn't see many trailers for it.”
“I saw loads of trailers for this on BBC1 at various times of the day, I'm surprised to hear people say that they didn't see many trailers for it.”
It only seems to be Sid.
Plus the show is so well established now that I don't think it even needs that much promotion these days. I'm sure it did brilliantly.
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