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Home and Away seems to rate better in Oz now than in the UK
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Damn, I never realised the BBC's regional news gets nearly double that of ITV's.
I always thought it was just there as a public service - I didn't think anybody actually watched it. |
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Shocking rating for Trinny and Susannah
! Surely they'll now get axed by ITV. . I can't help feeling ITV are in a similar position with T&S. - that they would be financially better off doing a Kelly Brook and paying off T&S's contract without letting them make any more programmes.Quote:
Trinny & Susannah: 1.8m (8%)
Too Posh to Pay: 2.4m (10%) News at Ten: 1.9m (9%) This is what ITV from 8pm till 10:45pm rated. I don't know what ITV were expecting from this shambles...but I've never seen ratings as low as this across two hours from 8pm till nearly 11pm. The primetime share must have been around 13%? As Emmerdale must have got around a 29% share. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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I never realised BBC regional news was so popular.
I always thought it was just there as a public service - I didn't think anybody actually watched it. Looking at yesterday's figures, as an estimate: Lunchtime: 3m vs. 1.5m Evening: 6.5m vs. 3.25m Late: 4m vs. 2m |
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I think it's just a plain fact that BBC's news output is twice as popular as ITV's news output as an estimate.
Looking at yesterday's figures, as an estimate: Lunchtime: 3m vs. 1.5m Evening: 6.5m vs. 3.25m Late: 4m vs. 2m I think generally the BBC did an okay job, but Sky News had better picture quality and of course a better anchor. (Jeremy Thompson > Huw Edwards) Still, I watched the BBC One broadcast in its entirety in support of the only terrestrial to provide in-depth coverage. |
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With no live coverage of Obama's Inauguration on ITV, one of the most significant political events of all time, is it any wonder viewers flocked to the BBC?
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Zoe makes a good point about Neighbours. Although, yesterday's teatime ratings were affected by the inauguration coverage, the lunchtime edition is worryingly down from the 1m-ish it was getting before the Christmas break. The new BARB report for w/e 11th January confirms the decline, with no lunchtime screenings making the channel's top 30.
Oh well, only seven (or is it nine?) years left on the contract. ![]() Diabolical ratings for Trinny and Susannah. It doesn't matter how many times ITV re-name and refine what is essentially the same show, they can't force people to watch it. EastEnders ahead of Emmerdale again, despite the latter's head start. And it looks as though Alan Titchmarsh's post-Christmas ratings honeymoon is over, with BBC Two's 3pm slot returning to 'Murder, She Wrote', rather than snooker. Perhaps the bowls will give him a boost today. |
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American Overnight Ratings
Tuesday 20th January 2009
8:00 FOX American Idol 22,420m ABC Neighborhood Ball: An Inauguration Celebration 12,591m CBS NCIS (repeat) 11,743m NBC Biggest Loser 8,378m CW 90210 2,395m 9:00 ABC Neighborhood Ball: An Inauguration Celebration 12,577m FOX Fringe 12,093m NBC Biggest Loser 12,043m CBS Change & Challenge: The Inauguration of Barak Obama 6,897m CW Privileged 1,657m 10:00 CBS The Mentalist (repeat) 10,450m ABC A Moment in History: The Inauguration of Barak Obama 9,466m NBC The Inauguration of Barack Obama 6,187m Neighborhood Ball: An Inauguration Celebration (ABC) 8:00 p.m. - Viewers: 10.67 million 8:30 p.m. - Viewers: 14.51 million 9:00 p.m. - Viewers: 13.61 million 9:30 p.m. - Viewers: 11.54 million The Biggest Loser (NBC) 8:00 p.m. – Viewers: 8.33 million 8:30 p.m. – Viewers: 8.43 million 9:00 p.m. – Viewers: 11.38 million 9:30 p.m. – Viewers: 12.71 million Fringe (FOX) 9:00 p.m. - 13.436m 9:30 p.m - 10.75m [LIST][*]ABC’s Inaugural specials beat NBC’s and CBS’s competitive offerings. [*]Fringe came back strong with a nice boost from idol. [*]Biggest Loser improved nicely over last week.[*]Last Week: 7.966m [*]American Idol did good but compared to one year earlier it got 29.27m , that's a decrease of 6.85m .[/LIST] |
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Zoe makes a good point about Neighbours. Although, yesterday's teatime ratings were affected by the inauguration coverage, the lunchtime edition is worryingly down from the 1m-ish it was getting before the Christmas break.
By the way, 800k is still almost triple the slot average pre-Neighbours of 280,000. Quote:
The new BARB report for w/e 11th January confirms the decline, with no lunchtime screenings making the channel's top 30.
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Oh well, only seven (or is it nine?) years left on the contract.
Five have secured the rights until February 2018, and, I think it's fair to assume; beyond, as they will get first dibs from here on in. |
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To be honest... that's how it is on most weekdays IIRC some of the ratings from last year.
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Oh wow- a massive 0.2m down for one particular episode that could have easily been made back through repeats. I'm sure Dawn Airey isn't crying herself to sleep at night just yet.
By the way, 800k is still almost triple the slot average pre-Neighbours of 280,000. Yeah, that would be because everything else is rating so much better. As all 5 of the teatime showings made the top 10, your argument is blown to pieces. I hope you're not seriously trying to suggest that Five would want rid of Neighbours when it comes up for renewal, because that is a ridiculous assumption to make about one of their best performing and most reliable programmes by far. Five have secured the rights until February 2018, and, I think it's fair to assume; beyond, as they will get first dibs from here on in. |
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Neighbours and H&A are very solid performers for Five and Fiver sometimes outrating whatever on in primetime so I can't see them getting rid of it any time soon. I would imagine that the 7pm News will get the chop now Ofcom have recommended limiting PSB for ITV and Five.
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Hi there
Does anyone now where can I find the official overall 2008 peaktime percentages for BBC ONE/TWO/ITV1/C4? Not by week, just the 2008 total. Have they been published yet? Cheers. |
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Oh wow- a massive 0.2m down for one particular episode that could have easily been made back through repeats.
20% is another. Quote:
I'm sure Dawn Airey isn't crying herself to sleep at night just yet.
I'm sure you're right. I doubt she sheds many tears over television. Quote:
By the way, 800k is still almost triple the slot average pre-Neighbours of 280,000.
That's good. But not as good as it was for much of last year. Quote:
Yeah, that would be because everything else is rating so much better.
Is it? Some of the TOP 30 shows are back under 1m again.Quote:
As all 5 of the teatime showings made the top 10, your argument is blown to pieces.
My observations were about the lunchtime screenings since Christmas, not the teatime ones. But, if you want to discuss the teatime ones, they're a long way down on the 2m they attracted when Neighbours first made the switch to its new home.Quote:
I hope you're not seriously trying to suggest that Five would want rid of Neighbours when it comes up for renewal, because that is a ridiculous assumption to make about one of their best performing and most reliable programmes by far.
No, not yet. Who knows yet how they'll feel about Neighbours when the rights come up for renewal?! Not I. Not you. Not them.Quote:
Five have secured the rights until February 2018, and, I think it's fair to assume; beyond, as they will get first dibs from here on in.
They might even accept the offer of first dibs, if there are still any dibs to offer by then.
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Does anyone now where can I find the official overall 2008 peaktime percentages for BBC ONE/TWO/ITV1/C4? Not by week, just the 2008 total. Have they been published yet? Cheers. |
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Do I get the feeling that someone is quite a big neighbours fan?
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Neighbours and H&A are very solid performers for Five and Fiver sometimes outrating whatever on in primetime so I can't see them getting rid of it any time soon. I would imagine that the 7pm News will get the chop now Ofcom have recommended limiting PSB for ITV and Five.
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Looking at the official ratings on BARB for 2008
BBC Six O'Clock News got on average 4.6m ITV Evening News got on average 3.6m BBC Ten O'Clock News got on average 5.0m The regional news doesn't appear in the officials as they are seperate programmes, and neither does News at Ten as the ratings are too low |
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0.2m is one way of looking at it.
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I'm sure you're right. I doubt she sheds many tears over television.
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Is it? Some of the TOP 30 shows are back under 1m again.
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My observations were about the lunchtime screenings since Christmas, not the teatime ones. But, if you want to discuss the teatime ones, they're a long way down on the 2m they attracted when Neighbours first made the switch to its new home.
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No, not yet. Who knows yet how they'll feel about Neighbours when the rights come up for renewal?! Not I. Not you. Not them.
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Neighbours isn't much down on what five were getting last year. It's just 0.2m down on what it got in its first month on five. For the remainder of last year, it was averaging about 0.7-0.8m which is what it is averaging now.
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When ITV poached them from BBC, they (stupidly) signed them up on a very expensive deal which covered a certain number of series over a certain number of years. (Their 'What Not to Wear' show on BBC One was a pretty big hit at the time - seen as it was one of the first of these makeover shows that are all over the TV now). All T&S ITV shows are just seeing out that contract. I don't think they're going to be in any hurry to renew that deal...!
ITV have no track record in this kind of programming and it's certainly not mainstream viewing. There was a review of it in The Guardian last week that suggested that ITV signed them without checking that they owned the rights to What Not To Wear, which would explain these pointless and contrived formats. But even that was running out of steam while they were still on it. For my money, it all went wrong for them when it moved to BBC1 and, crucially, became an hour long. Because in half an hour you get enough time to meet the victim, go through their wardrobe, do the markeover and get a conclusion. Simple. When they went to an hour, though, they had to pad it out with all that crap stuff where they went to their homes and "lived their lives", and brought in all the crappy pop-science stuff about clothes meaning a new life, when all anyone's interested in is the makeover. And when they went to ITV, it was ALL crappy pop-science stuff. This is the problem with ITV, as Ally Ross in The Sun correctly pointed out, if you rip off BBC2 formats, you get BBC2 ratings. If that. because invariably the rip-off is much more contrived and uninteresting (Tycoon). The same applied here. Also, nobody likes them anymore. They're horrible. |
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Looking at the BARB chart for the week ending 11th January and it seems Above Suspision got 8.0m up from its 7.3m and Hustle got 6.26m up from 5.7m. Nice to see the dramas acheiving a decent timeshift.
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Trinny and Susannah's move to ITV was presumably motivated by the ratings they were getting at the BBC and maybe to keep them off the BBC.This has happened a number of times through the decades,but, more often than not the shine is knocked off the format and the show is seen in a different light-in the case of T and S its hardly seen at all.
A cautionary tale, but a lesson never learnt. |
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09:00…The Wright Stuff…170,000 (3.6%) 10:30…Trisha Goddard…260,000 (??%) 13:45...Neighbours...800,000 (10.4%) 14:15...Home and Away...360,000 (4.9%) 17:30...Neighbours...1.45m (7.7%) 18:00...Home and Away...1.14m (5.5%) 18:30...Zoo Days...660,000 (3%) 19:00...Five News at 7...270,000 (1.2%) 19:30...Jaguar Adventure Nigel Marven...605,000 (2.6%) 20:00...Secrets Egypt: Rameses...1.44m (6.2%) 21:00...CSI: Crime Scene Investigation...3.42m (14.8%) 22:00...CSI: Crime Scene Investigation...1.83m (10.3%) 23:00...Law and Order: SVU...910,000 (9.7%) Five need to sort out their early peak schedule. They have a solid line-up until 6.30pm, but then the news ruins everything. Numerous factual series running at 1830 and 1930 to plug the gaps but not getting decent figures at all. How much time, money and effort must be spent commissioning them? They're never going to lift the channel. I think they tried Two and a Half Men, but for some reason it flopped? Maybe try and land Scrubs/The Simpsons? A sitcom would be cheap and cheerful and allow them to get their real focus on 8pm-11pm. Although ideally, they could ditch the news. Quote:
[*]American Idol did good but compared to one year earlier it got 29.27m , that's a decrease of 6.85m .
It held up well between the 2 shows last week as well which was encouraging, I thought. If FOX were admitting being unhappy with last weeks ratings, they must be very uncomfortable today.
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Well, if Trisha got the axe then it's only a matter of time until The Wright Stuff follows, surely?
Five need to sort out their early peak schedule. They have a solid line-up until 6.30pm, but then the news ruins everything. Numerous factual series running at 1830 and 1930 to plug the gaps but not getting decent figures at all. How much time, money and effort must be spent commissioning them? They're never going to lift the channel. I think they tried Two and a Half Men, but for some reason it flopped? Maybe try and land Scrubs/The Simpsons? A sitcom would be cheap and cheerful and allow them to get their real focus on 8pm-11pm. Although ideally, they could ditch the news. The problem with the factual shows at 6.30pm and 7.30pm is that they don't appeal to the audience to the soap audience who watch Neighbours and H&A who either switch to Hollyoaks or first look H&A. Sitcom repeats would be ideal and cheap but they aren't many sitcoms outside of Friends or The Simpsons. My other idea would be to remove the news at 7pm and acquired another Aussie drama like All Saints or McLeod's Daughters to run between 6.30-7.30pm and air a factual show at 7.30pm. |
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Well, if Trisha got the axe then it's only a matter of time until The Wright Stuff follows, surely?
I'm quite surprised Five haven't tried Matthew Wright on any primetime project yet, although I understand he has or did front Inside Out for the BBC. |
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! Surely they'll now get axed by ITV.

