The Ratings Thread (Part 3 (3))

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D.M.N.

31-01-2009

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Anyway, I am prepared to leave it there in the interests of getting the thread back on topic but next time if we are going to paste full length articles from other websites, especially but not exclusively the smaller websites that don't get the recognition they deserve anyway, can we please include a source.

Many thanks ”

What if its come from a Doctor Who Forum member, where members of that site state specifically not to source them (or if another individual has specifically said not to source them) ?

Thebenster

31-01-2009

Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“What if its come from a Doctor Who Forum member, where members of that site state specifically not to source them (or if another individual has specifically said not to source them) ?”

Then obviously not, seeing as the person doesn't want recognition or sourcing. I can sort of see where you're coming from though.

Dancc

31-01-2009

^ What Thebenster said.

Victim Of Fate

31-01-2009

I think it's worth mentioning also that, while there's only 12 or so of you that contribute to this thread, there's a much, much higher number of people that read it (myself included).

It is always better to source, especially if you're cutting and pasting.

C14E

31-01-2009

Originally Posted by rzt:
“However, it's bottom out of the Big 4 among 16-34 viewers, not that it's too important for the BBC anyways.”

I did notice that X Factor seemed to surge particularly among 16-34's last year. The finale ratings among young viewers were up by a third on 2007 (about 2.5m to 3.4m). And it shows both sides of the problem for Big Brother when it comes to young viewers... X Factor had more 16-34's than BB had total viewers. But it also had 26% 16-34's, BB had 30% which is pretty close. Whereas BB at its peak had 45% of a far larger audience.

BGT seems slightly less popular among 16-34's, but its closer to XF than I thought it would be.

D.M.N.

31-01-2009

So (trying to divert back into proper discussion!) what do you think The Old Guys will get?

First things first, I hate the Saturday night slot for comedys, IMO no comedy should be put in that slot. I'd say something between 3 and 4m.

Agent F

31-01-2009

Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“So (trying to divert back into proper discussion!) what do you think The Old Guys will get?

First things first, I hate the Saturday night slot for comedys, IMO no comedy should be put in that slot. I'd say something between 3 and 4m.”

That title is enough to put anybody off watching. Failing that, the "comedy" itself should be enough to make most people switch off.

Dancc

31-01-2009

Are these quite possibly the earliest set of Saturday 'overnights' ever?

ABC
18:31 Gardening Australia 550,000
19:00 ABC News 896,000
20:30 The Bill 731,000

Seven
14:00 Movie: The Poof Point 282,000
18:00 Seven News 1,407,000
19:00 Australian Open 2009 - Women's Final Preview 1,026,000
19:30 Australian Open 2009 - Women's Final Safina v Williams 1,109,000

Nine
18:00 Nine News Saturday 1,221,000
18:30 Australia's Funniest Home Video Show Summer Series (R) 867,000
21:30 McLeod's Daughters 576,000

Ten
17:00 Ten News at Five 962,000
18:30 Movie: Mr. Deeds 827,000
20:30 Movie: The Italian Job 993,000

SBS
19:30 Mythbusters 390,000
21:20 RocKwiz 276,000

Sources: OzTam, TribalMind

RobbieSykes123

01-02-2009

Originally Posted by Agent F:
“That title is enough to put anybody off watching. Failing that, the "comedy" itself should be enough to make most people switch off.”

Quite the silliest programme I've seen for some time.

And the funniest new programme in ages.

Can't see it being a ratings smash, seeing as the trailers made it look awful and that slot doesn't do great business. It also started 40 mins into Millionaire, and Casualty viewers may have been happy to switch to the last 20 mins of that. 3-4m seems the best it will get, but I hope it does better.

mr_scotty2hotty

01-02-2009

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Because it was so bloody blatent! It always irks me whenever I see it, but this was an especially bad case. People seem to take web content for granted these days, as if it was generated by a computer or something. Reality check; it takes time and commitment from writers to get such in depth and high quality articles like the ones you see on thecustard.tv.

Trivial to you may be, but I doubt the author of that site who works very hard and puts a lot of time and effort into his articles sees it that way when he sees HIS OWN WORK in its original form plastered all over a forum without any hint of an acknowledgement whatsoever.

I know I'd be a little peeved, wouldn't you? ”

Not really it wouldn't bother me, and please, spare me the pathetic eye roll... it peeves me off!!!

mr_scotty2hotty

01-02-2009

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Quite the silliest programme I've seen for some time.

And the funniest new programme in ages.

Can't see it being a ratings smash, seeing as the trailers made it look awful and that slot doesn't do great business. It also started 40 mins into Millionaire, and Casualty viewers may have been happy to switch to the last 20 mins of that. 3-4m seems the best it will get, but I hope it does better.”

Me too, i thought it was good... I actually laughed...

cylon6

01-02-2009

Originally Posted by mr_scotty2hotty:
“Me too, i thought it was good... I actually laughed...”

I never saw it because the trailer made it look rubbish. I think I'll watch it on iplayer.

smile371

01-02-2009

Am looking forward to seeing what Pushing Daisies, The Old Guys, Not Going Out and Feelgood Factor got!

Barbara2001

01-02-2009

May have started of as 3-3.5M and finished less than 2M, my family and myself turned over to BBC2 for QI XL earlier than necessary to avoid seeing any more of The Old Guys.

D.M.N.

01-02-2009

Any ratings at all?

hopeandfaith06

01-02-2009

Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Any ratings at all? ”

I was thinking that.

I don't know where everyone gets them, if someone posted a link then i could find them myself, but when i search i can never seem to find anything.

smile371

01-02-2009

Would be a shame if we were unable to get ratings today, but hopefully someone will be able to give them to us pretty soon

Dancc

01-02-2009

Thank you very much rzt. Using the word document you provided I was able to import the data for the aussie soaps into Excel and sort it. Here is some detailed analysis of the performance of both soaps:

NEIGHBOURS

Averages
Early Morning (5.10am/5.35am) – 33,000 (3.99%)
Afternoon (1.45pm) – 843,000 (12.13%)
Evening (5.30pm) –1,560,000 (11.03%)

Most Watched (5.30pm)
1. 6th March 2008 – 2,427,000
2. 13th February 2008 – 2,392,000
3. 20th February 2008 – 2,351,000
4. 4th March 2008 – 2,311,000
5. 11th February 2008 – 2,268,000

Least Watched (5.30pm)
1. 5th May 2008 – 1,023,000
2. 4th July 2008 – 1,111,000
3. 7th August 2008 – 1,116,000
4. 4th August 2008 – 1,161,000
5. 15th August 2008 – 1,168,000

Most Watched (1.45pm)
1. 25th February 2008 – 1,277,000
2. 28th March 2008 – 1,206,000
3. 21st February 2008 – 1,167,000
4. 25th March 2008 – 1,162,000
5. 7th April 2008 – 1,118,000

Least Watched (1.45pm)
1. 8th August 2008 – 524,000
2. 15th August 2008 – 546,000
3. 21st August 2008 – 554,000
4. 12th December 2008 – 583,000
5. 19th August 2008 – 615,000

Top 5 By Share
1. 2nd April 2008 1.45pm – 1,087,000 (16.56%)
2. 25th February 2008 1.45pm – 1,277,000 (16.31%)
3. 6th March 2008 5.30pm – 2,427,000 (16.02%)
4. 13th February 2008 5.30pm – 2,392,000 (15.45%)
5. 4th March 2008 5.30pm – 2,311,000 (15.36%)

Bottom 5 By Share
1. 16th August 2008 5.35am – 3,000 (0.29%)
2. 16th May 2008 5.35am – 5,000 (0.47%)
3. 4th April 2008 5.10am – 6,000 (0.85%)
4. 21st June 2008 5.35am – 9,000 (1.3%)
5. 22nd February 2008 5.10am – 9,000 (1.3%)

HOME AND AWAY

Averages
Early Morning (5.35am) – 30,000 (3.43%)
Afternoon (2.15pm) – 400,000 (6.32%)
Evening (6.00pm) – 1,188,000 (6.76%)

Most Watched (6.00pm/6.30pm)
1. 3rd December 2007 6.00pm – 1,622,000
2. 22nd November 2007 6.00pm – 1,620,000
3. 14th November 2007 6.00pm – 1,589,000
4. 24th October 2007 6.00pm – 1,578,000
5. 18th February 2008 6.00pm – 1,573,000

Least Watched (6.00pm/6.30pm)
1. 19th September 2008 6.30pm – 642,000
2. 28th November 2008 6.30pm – 666,000
3. 24th October 2008 6.30pm – 764,000
4. 19th September 2008 6.00pm – 824,000
5. 4th July 2008 6.00pm – 848,000

Most Watched (2.15pm)
1. 25th March 2008 – 587,000
2. 26th March 2008 – 585,000
3. 7th April 2008 – 557,000
4. 7th March 2008 – 547,000
5. 10th March 2008 – 545,000

Least Watched (2.15pm)
1. 11th December 2008 – 274,000
2. 12th December 2008 – 278,000
3. 8th January 2009 – 286,000
4. 24th September 2008 – 291,000
5. 21st November 2008 – 291,000

Top 5 By Share
1. 15th May 2008 2.15pm – 496,000 (8.96%)
2. 14th May 2008 2.15pm – 433,000 (8.94%)
3. 31st August 2007 6.00pm – 1,381,000 (8.9%)
4. 27th September 2007 6.00pm – 1,475,000 (8.72%)
5. 8th September 2008 2.15pm – 530,000 (8.71%)

Bottom 5 By Share
1. 27th November 2008 5.35am – 8,000 (0.68%)
2. 27th September 2008 5.35am – 8,000 (1%)
3. 30th September 2008 5.35am – 13,000 (1.29%)
4. 6th November 2008 5.35am – 13,000 (1.35%)
5. 18th September 2008 5.35am – 16,000 (1.47%)

Figures courtesy of rzt.

Neighbours ratings based on overnight figures from 10/02/2008 to 26/01/2009.
Home and Away ratings based on overnight figures from 13/08/2007 to 26/01/2009.

Thebenster

01-02-2009

A Question of Sport (2008)

Most watched

Code:

May 2, 2008	        20:30	4,267,000	19.80%
November 7, 2008	19:30	4,061,000	18.65%
December 19, 2008	19:30	4,022,000	18.63%
December 12, 2008	19:30	4,000,000	18.78%
December 27, 2008	22:00	3,902,000	19.30%   (Extra Time)

Top 5 by share

Code:

July 17, 2008	        22:35	3,006,000	21.38%
May 2, 2008	        20:30	4,267,000	19.80%
December 27, 2008	22:00	3,902,000	19.30%   (Extra Time)
September 5, 2008	19:30	3,896,000	18.80%
December 12, 2008	19:30	4,000,000	18.78%

Source: BARB

rzt

01-02-2009

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“ Using the word document you provided I was able to import the data for the aussie soaps into Excel and sort it. Here is some detailed analysis of the performance of both soaps:
...
Neighbours ratings based on overnight figures from 10/02/2008 to 26/01/2009.
Home and Away ratings based on overnight figures from 13/08/2007 to 26/01/2009.”

Thanks for the detailed report.

Neighbours is getting about double what previous Channel 5 programmes were getting in that slot. Do you think the price Five paid for Neighbours was worth it? I mean, it is rating well for the channel, but I do think they expected higher ratings particularly for the afternoon showing.

Dancc

01-02-2009

Originally Posted by rzt:
“Thanks for the detailed report.

Neighbours is getting about double what previous Channel 5 programmes were getting in that slot. Do you think the price Five paid for Neighbours was worth it? I mean, it is rating well for the channel, but I do think they expected higher ratings particularly for the afternoon showing.”

I think, in all honesty, they probably did expect them to be a little higher. But if you add up the averages, each episode is reaching roughly 2.4 million at least on Five alone. Admittedly, a single showing managed this figure in March 2008, but it does exclude the 400k or so that are no doubt watching on Fiver and Fiver+1. Now taking that into account, I'd say it is doing very very well indeed and achieving shares particularly in its early afternoon slot which Five rarely manage elsewhere.

Now there are more viewers available in the daytime due to the impact of the recession and many people being unemployed, perhaps we will see rises for the lunchtime showing in the very near future. Also there could be the feel good factor- people wanting to be cheered up by TV due to all the doom and gloom around. I'm not sure if this applies to Neighbours, but certainly Home and Away feels a lot friendlier than our soaps if that makes sense. I'm not saying the storylines are always cheerful, but it tends to have a very different feel about it most of the time which I quite like.

There's also the important factor of who is watching. The figures above are of course for all individuals, but I suspect these two shows are hitting the right spot in the all important 16-34 demo which will no doubt please advertisers and sponsors. Overall I would say £300m was good value considering Neighbours will provide Five and Fiver with nearly 7,000 hours of television across the contract period of 8 years which works out to about £40,000 per hour. Quite cheap really for a show that performs consistently well and rates better than a lot of the rest of their output.

Thebenster

01-02-2009

Friday
Ramsay's Great British Nightmare (C4): 3.0m

Source: Mirror

PJMillar

01-02-2009

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“It is still relevant to this thread whether it interests you or not.

I did consider posting it in the Soap Ratings Thread in addition to here but noticed discussion on that particular thread was focussed more towards the UK soaps.

Besides, my post was put together using the data that rzt posted here yesterday. I thought it could perhaps encourage others to post similar data about some of the other shows which rzt featured in his zip file, which I would find interesting at least.”

It was very interesting actually, but Neighbours is losing viewers, and I think the show has gone downhill in quality. I know it doesn't do so well in Australia, but it's now starting to lose ground in the UK.

I know there has recently been tension between production team and actors.

Although, I must say, I think the ratings 'reach' has improved with Neighbours being repeated on Fiver, so that must be good for Five.

Indeed, their digital channels are going from strength to strength.

Barbara2001

01-02-2009

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Thanks Hotelier. Good to know

Back on topic; it's been very cold here in Northamptonshire today with snow flurries. Similar story right across eastern Britain at the moment with wintry weather spreading west over the next 48 hours. I wonder what impact this may have on the ratings over the next few nights?”

Snow has just reached those of us in Liverppol. Sunday night is the busiest night as far as TV watching goes - look forward to seeing the ratings for

Time Team
Monk
Pysch
Lost
Supernatural
Being Human

Jonwo

01-02-2009

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“I think, in all honesty, they probably did expect them to be a little higher. But if you add up the averages, each episode is reaching roughly 2.4 million at least on Five alone. Admittedly, a single showing managed this figure in March 2008, but it does exclude the 400k or so that are no doubt watching on Fiver and Fiver+1. Now taking that into account, I'd say it is doing very very well indeed and achieving shares particularly in its early afternoon slot which Five rarely manage elsewhere.

Now there are more viewers available in the daytime due to the impact of the recession and many people being unemployed, perhaps we will see rises for the lunchtime showing in the very near future. Also there could be the feel good factor- people wanting to be cheered up by TV due to all the doom and gloom around. I'm not sure if this applies to Neighbours, but certainly Home and Away feels a lot friendlier than our soaps if that makes sense. I'm not saying the storylines are always cheerful, but it tends to have a very different feel about it most of the time which I quite like.

There's also the important factor of who is watching. The figures above are of course for all individuals, but I suspect these two shows are hitting the right spot in the all important 16-34 demo which will no doubt please advertisers and sponsors. Overall I would say £300m was good value considering Neighbours will provide Five and Fiver with nearly 7,000 hours of television across the contract period of 8 years which works out to about £40,000 per hour. Quite cheap really for a show that performs consistently well and rates better than a lot of the rest of their output.”

Interesting reading the Neighbours and H&A ratings, they are both solid performers in both their timeslots but it also shows that like all soaps in general, they goes through fluctuatation during the summer and after a short break.

I do think overpaid for it but it has provided a boost to the all day share and the fact that they can hit over 1m which cannot be said for some shows in the Five lineup.

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