I meant about people being stuck in their homes.

I agree that it will fall, because, like you say, all these ITV three parters fall, but I can't see it going below 6m.

Which dramas were they?

AFAIK, Above Suspicion, Unforgiven and Whitechapel were all originally meant to go out in the Winter, and I presume the similar nature of them inspired the Thriller strand.

There are a couple of dramas that were meant to go out in the Autumn which were postponed by Fincham for later broadcast - not sure when they're due to air though as I didn't catch them in the Winter press release.

There will also be an inevitable fall because all the programmes last night were artificially boosted by the snow. It's not like TOS is now going to start averaging 6.6 million viewers.

Yes, there will be, but people who put it on just because they were stuck inside may have enjoyed it.

6.5m seems about right for it next week, the same figure that Unforgiven ended up with.

I agree about The One Show, I doubt that it'll start averaging what it got last night.

I've done this post mainly for fun, so shouldn't really be taken that seriously!!

Let's for a moment, assume that snow never had an effect on yesterday's ratings. I know, it's sad.

Now, let's put the %share's for programmes as if it was against last Monday's ratings to see what for instance Whitechapel would have got if it 29.8% if we put it against normal ratings... for instance last Monday's 9pm rating/share on ITV1. Sorry, if I haven't explained that clearly, should become clearer in a minute.

BBC One
19:00- The One Show: 5.4m (Drop of 1.2m on actual rating from yesterday)
19:30- Watchdog: 5.1m (Drop of 0.8m)
20:00- EastEnders: 9.2m (Drop of 1.14m)
20:30- Panaroma: 2.9m (Drop of 0.3m)
21:00- WDYTYA: 5.72m (Drop of 0.6m)
22:00- News: 6.5m (Drop of 1.1m)

ITV1
19:00- Emmerdale: 7.2m (Drop of 1.42m)
19:30- Corrie: 9.52m (Drop of 1.7m)
20:30- Corrie: 9.52m (Drop of 1.11m)
21:00- Whitechapel: 7.37m (Drop of 0.8m)
22:00- News: 4.24m (Drop of 0.5m)

Method of how I worked it out: Last weeks viewing figure for programme in same slot (see here) divided by the share it achieved last week, times the share it achieved this week.

For instance, for ITV News at Ten: 2.62m [last Mondays rating] divided by 13.2% [last Mondays share] x by 21.4% [last nights share] = 4.24m

I know this is the Ratings Thread but to see the bigger picture, quality is the answer.

And Whitechapel was a brilliant drama, going in the right direction. ITV's drama is restoring its reputation. For example, The Children or Place of Execution would be getting these kind of ratings, but were introduced in 2008 when ITV's drama reputation was in tatters.

But viewers now know that Monday nights are the home of quality crime drama - and that's important. The ratings will build as a result.

But one thing ITV need to make sure: they need to vary their drama commissions. Too much of a good thing is a bad thing. I mean, that's what ITV are renowned for.
They always make ONE TOO MANY entertainment shows or ONE TOO MANY dramas, and as a result, everything falls.

What they need is sensible commissioning where they don't commission something for the sake of it. Something that has always worked really well in my eyes is the 'pilot' theory, because it has created long series such as The Bill in the past, and I'm sure it will create Whitechapel.

But ITV need a few more family dramas that actually appeal, and definitely need to bulk up on comedy & original sports programming with BBC1 lacking at the moment, because that's an area where they can exploit.

Elsewhere, BBC1 is the home of great factual programming, like Who Do You Think You Are? Populist & original...exactly the kind of thing ITV need. So when 'a populist & original' programme goes against New Tricks, it can pull the same kind of audience as Who Do You Think You Are, if you get my drift.

PJ.

Yes, that's very interesting. I mean, if Whitechapel had got 8.1m last week, it would've got around a 35% share. The sheer quantity of viewers for this drama should hold it in good stead in the future.

I notice that Whitechapel's ratings adjusted for no snow puts it on a par with the ratings for part one of Unforgiven (7.2m)

I think "Boys and Girls Home Alone" programme on C4 could get 4m+ tonight.

I expect it was always going to do well anyway. A debut of 7 million sounds realistic as that Monday night strand seems to have caught hold of an audience now that keeps returning.


Likely. Was definitely the most attractive offering in a very poor night for TV (as per Tuesdays).

I hope Boys and Girls Alone does get great ratings, as it was a truely interesting and entertaining show!

Anyone know any more Monday Night Thrillers to come after Whitechapel, are they running out ?

I know that U Be Dead was in the Winter line-up. Perhaps the second series of The Fixer will go in that slot ?

I also think that Monday at 9pm is the best slot for Law & Order : UK when it arrives.

I caught a clip of it on Loose Women today () and it immediately put me off the show. I think it could be a potential winner for tonight's 9pm slot though, as the other channels didn't offer much..

I think Law and Order is due soon, so I can see that taking the slot when Whitechapel ends.

Is U Be Dead a three-parter?

Law and Order should definitely go out on a Monday to give it the best possible start, so at a guess I'd say Whitechapel will be the last 'Monday Night Thriller' before L&O, as that will be running for quite a while.

The Fixer will have to be shifted out of Monday night then (as L&O will be occupying 13 weeks).

Same here! And for part of my childhood, it clashed with World in Action, meaning there was no escape from the boredom! Just what you needed when you were facing another four days at school before the weekend!

The fact that the show lost 700,000 viewers over the hour would indicate a fall is likely-I guess these were people afraid of the potential sight of blood and guts.

Quite so!

The best ever Panorama was in the seventies-the show was live in the days of steam powered tv, and all the films failed-even the back up ones. Poor David Dimbleby was left with nothing but himself and the camera and nothing much to say-if you see it its one of those times its hard to look at the screen as it was not so much the done thing to laugh your way out of predicaments back then.

I think I've seen clips from that edition, on one of the Auntie's Bloomers shows. He proudly introduces a film, only to get a call on his steam-powered phone, telling him it can't be shown!

And to think Panorama was capable of getting 23m viewers just 15 years ago...

I was going to suggest that The Fixer would go to Fridays at 9pm, but I suppose Benidorm will be back there soon alongside another sitcom.

I think they have Kingdom lined up and that will probably go on Sundays again. With L&O on Mondays that leaves Wednesdays and Thursdays as the options, both nights with a lead-in from The Bill. There's always the chance that they could hold off on The Fixer until nearer summer and give it the Monday night slot. They usually have one or two drama's in the summer.

The Fixer will need good promotion and a good slot because IIRC on Monday nights last year it fell below 4m. Perhaps a Wednesday slot after The Bill would work because Mondays seem busy with olther dramas atm.

I don't think that Benidorm is due back until the Summer, so I can see The Fixer taking Friday when Blue Murder ends.

Although holding it back until Summer would be good, as it means that they could continue with the Monday night dramas.

C4 Sales

Supersize Vs Superskinny - 2.92 million viewers

Boys And Girls Alone - 2.63 million viewers

Shameless - 2.96 million viewers