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The Ratings Thread (Part 3 (3))
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Score
11-02-2009
Originally Posted by MattJKR:
“It got 2.52m (10.7%)”

Thanks. Another Tuesday ITV flop, then.
rzt
11-02-2009
Originally Posted by MattJKR:
“It got 2.52m (10.7%)”

Crikey, that's bad!

One request please: Cheetah Man on Five at 8pm. Thanks.
Cent
11-02-2009
Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“Isn't CBS the older audience network compared to the likes of NBC or FOX? They do have shows that attract younger viewers like Two and a Half Men, How I Met Your Mother etc but the nature of the dramas they air tend to attract an older audience whereas sci-fi drama like Lost and Fringe tend to appeal to a younger audience.”

I think they try to appeal to everyone.

They have younger things like Big Bang Theory and Big Brother too.
jde-tv
11-02-2009
8:30

American Idol 25,955 -9.5 -8.1
NCIS 18,640 -3.9 -2.4
Biggest Loser: 7,854 -3.1 -2.6
Charlie Brown 4,664 -1.5 -1.3
90210 2,362 -1.2 -1.7

9:30

The Mentalist 19,915 -4.2 -2.7
Biggest Loser 11,671 -4.7 -4.0
Fringe 9,053 -3.8 -3.0
Scrubs 4,234 -2.0 -2.3
Privileged 1,433 -0.6 -0.8

10:30

Without a Trace 14,255 -3.4 -2.4
Dateline NBC 11,079 -3.9 -2.8
True Beauty 3,844 -1.7 -1.6


I just put in the half past the hour ratings as sometimes shows run over
[LIST][*]The 1st collum is the rating[*]The 2nd is the 18-49[*]The 3rd is the 18-34[/LIST]
The networks only really care about the demo, not the overall numbers... these will only be factored in if foe example a network had to axe 1 of two shows which are joint in the demo

sorry if the layout isnt very good!
cylon6
11-02-2009
Originally Posted by rzt:
“How important is the 18-49 ranking for US networks?

I'm asking because although The Mentalist got a fantastic 19/20m overall audience, it was behind both Fringe and Biggest Loser in the 18-49s.

Is this a cause of concern at all? I know in the UK, there would be absolutely no concern but I think the mentality is a bit different in the States, is it not.”

Originally Posted by Cent:
“18-49 is very important in the US. It's just worth more money.

I wouldn't say that anything that gets 20m is in trouble though, whatever demo it is in.”

Yes as Cent says the 18-49 demographic is very important for advertisers because they spend the most or are likely to spend more. So even though shows on other newtworks such as The CW get tiny ratings their 18-49 scores are better than those of some highly watched CBS shows.
craig-maclellan
11-02-2009
A couple of notes from the BBC Press Office today.

Hustle recommissioned for a sixth series (yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaass!!)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pre...1/hustle.shtml

And an all-start (and this time they mean all start) cast announced for The Day of the Triffids remake later this year.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pre...triffids.shtml

Dougray Scott
Joley Richardson
Vanessa Redgrave
Brian Cox
Eddie Izzard

With a cast like that, it's got to be a major draw.
Andy23
11-02-2009
Originally Posted by MattJKR:
“Indeed, EastEnders got 6.63m (28.1%) and Emmerdale managed 6.91m (30.3%)

Time - BBC-1 (Share) - BBC-2 (Share) - ITV-1 (Share) - Channel 4 (Share) - Five (Share)
19:00 - 5.20 m ( 24.0 % ) - 1.52 m ( 7.0 % ) - 7.02 m ( 32.4 % ) - 0.97 m ( 4.5 % ) - 0.25 m ( 1.1 % )
19:15 - 5.56 m ( 24.6 % ) - 1.58 m ( 7.0 % ) - 7.28 m ( 32.3 % ) - 0.96 m ( 4.3 % ) - 0.27 m ( 1.2 % )
19:30 - 6.32 m ( 26.9 % ) - 2.18 m ( 9.3 % ) - 6.82 m ( 29.0 % ) - 1.04 m ( 4.4 % ) - 0.49 m ( 2.1 % )
19:45 - 6.93 m ( 29.3 % ) - 2.53 m ( 10.7 % ) - 6.51 m ( 27.4 % ) - 0.88 m ( 3.7 % ) - 0.52 m ( 2.2 % )”

I'm surprised Emmerdale didn't rate any higher. I expected 8m, maybe many people may have taped it, we'll have to remember to look in the officials in the next few weeks
Thebenster
11-02-2009
Top 24 most watched programmes of 2009
last update includes 09/02 overnight ratings

01 - 11.29M - CORONATION STREET (05/01, 20:30) ITV1
02 - 10.34M - EASTENDERS (02/02, 20:00) BBC1 ** overnight
03 - 10.01M - DANCING ON ICE (01/02, 18:55) ITV1
04 - 9.91M - JONATHAN CREEK CHRISTMAS SPECIAL (01/01, 21:00) BBC1
05 - 8.62M - EMMERDALE (02/02, 19:00) ITV1 ** overnight
06 - 8.20M - WILD AT HEART (01/02, 20:30) ITV1
07 - 8.13M - WHITECHAPEL (02/02, 21:00) ITV1 ** overnight
08 - 8.00M - ABOVE SUSPICION (05/01, 21:00) ITV1
09 - 7.94M - ANTIQUES ROADSHOW (04/01, 19:00) BBC1
10 - 7.82M - UNFORGIVEN (12/01, 21:00) ITV1
11 - 7.75M - NATIONAL LOTTERY: IN IT TO WIN IT (07/02, 20:00) BBC1 ** overnight
12 - 7.48M - WALLACE AND GROMIT: A MATTER OF LOAF AND DEATH (01/01, 19:00) BBC1
13 - 7.33M - CASUALTY (31/01, 20:40) BBC1
14 - 7.18M - HARRY HILL'S TV BURP (10/01, 19:15) ITV1
15 - 7.08M - BBC NEWS (01/02, 22:00) BBC1
16 - 6.59M - NEW YOU'VE BEEN FRAMED (10/01, 18:45) ITV1
17 - 6.59M - CELEBRITY MASTERMIND (01/01, 20:00) BBC1
18 - 6.56M - TOTAL WIPEOUT (03/01, 18:10) BBC1
19 - 6.54M - LARK RISE TO CANDLEFORD (01/02, 20:00) BBC1
20 - 6.43M - HOLBY CITY (03/02, 21:00) BBC1 ** overnight
21 - 6.34M - CHARLES DARWIN AND THE TREE OF LIFE (01/02, 21:00) BBC1
22 - 6.32M - WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? (02/02, 21:00) BBC1 ** overnight
23 - 6.30M - HUSTLE (22/01, 21:00) BBC1
24 - 6.30M - DOCTOR WHO CONFIDENTIAL (03/01, 17:35) BBC1

Source: BARB

Note: No multiple entries for programmes.
MattJKR
11-02-2009
Originally Posted by rzt:
“One request please: Cheetah Man on Five at 8pm. Thanks.”

It got 1.40m (5.9%).

Time - BBC-1 (Share %) - BBC-2 (Share) - ITV-1 (Share %) - Channel-4 (Share) - Five (Share)
20:00 - 5.84 m ( 25.4 % ) - 3.05 m ( 13.3 % ) - 2.78 m ( 12.1 % ) - 2.37 m ( 10.3 % ) - 1.26 m ( 5.5 % )
20:15 - 5.70 m ( 24.4 % ) - 3.37 m ( 14.4 % ) - 2.47 m ( 10.6 % ) - 2.59 m ( 11.1 % ) - 1.36 m ( 5.8 % )
20:30 - 5.77 m ( 24.3 % ) - 3.40 m ( 14.3 % ) - 2.42 m ( 10.2 % ) - 2.64 m ( 11.1 % ) - 1.50 m ( 6.3 % )
20:45 - 5.79 m ( 24.0 % ) - 3.84 m ( 15.9 % ) - 2.38 m ( 9.9 % ) - 2.67 m ( 11.1 % ) - 1.48 m ( 6.1 % )
cylon6
11-02-2009
This is interesting.

Edina and Patsy roles cast in US AbFab
square_eyes
11-02-2009
Good grief the Tuesday night factual flop fest is really damaging to ITV1's share. Good thing that Man Utd come to the rescue in a couple of weeks.

Tuesdays need urgent attention, cut out the factual doubles and spread them more thinly where they will be less exposed. Put Millionaire back or something.
ZoeMcCallister
11-02-2009
Originally Posted by Thebenster:
“Top 24 most watched programmes of 2009
last update includes 09/02 overnight ratings

01 - 11.29M - CORONATION STREET (05/01, 20:30) ITV1
02 - 10.34M - EASTENDERS (02/02, 20:00) BBC1 ** overnight
03 - 10.01M - DANCING ON ICE (01/02, 18:55) ITV1
04 - 9.91M - JONATHAN CREEK CHRISTMAS SPECIAL (01/01, 21:00) BBC1
05 - 8.62M - EMMERDALE (02/02, 19:00) ITV1 ** overnight
06 - 8.20M - WILD AT HEART (01/02, 20:30) ITV1
07 - 8.13M - WHITECHAPEL (02/02, 21:00) ITV1 ** overnight
08 - 8.00M - ABOVE SUSPICION (05/01, 21:00) ITV1
09 - 7.94M - ANTIQUES ROADSHOW (04/01, 19:00) BBC1
10 - 7.82M - UNFORGIVEN (12/01, 21:00) ITV1
Source: BARB

Note: No multiple entries for programmes.”

Thanks for that list...it's pretty impressive that 3 new ITV dramas are in the top 10 and it just shows what a success the Monday Night Thriller campaign is.

Also Jonathan Creek looks like he may be in the top 10 for a while to come this year and an impressive performance from DOI at this stage of the competition, but I don't think the final will match that of last years imo.
KennyT
11-02-2009
Originally Posted by Thebenster:
“Top 24 most watched programmes of 2009...”

Does that "regional news" that got 9m (IIRC) overnight not get mentioned?

K
rzt
11-02-2009
Originally Posted by KennyT:
“Does that "regional news" that got 9m (IIRC) overnight not get mentioned?

K”

Regional News isn't given an official rating for some reason. A shame that the broadcast won't be officially recognised because 9m is stunning at 6:30pm!
garyessex
11-02-2009
Holby seems to be improving, im sure 6 months ago it was struggling at 5million along with The Bill. Have they had a revamp or anything?
square_eyes
11-02-2009
Originally Posted by garyessex:
“Holby seems to be improving, im sure 6 months ago it was struggling at 5million along with The Bill. Have they had a revamp or anything?”

No just lousy opposition, particularly from ITV1.
iaindb
11-02-2009
Originally Posted by ZoeMcCallister:
“Also Jonathan Creek looks like he may be in the top 10 for a while to come this year and an impressive performance from DOI at this stage of the competition, but I don't think the final will match that of last years imo.”

JC would have been 13th overall last year with his 9.91m beaten by:

Wallace & Gromiit :- No new episode likely this year.

2 soaps :- Already ahead of JC

5 reality TV LE shows :- Could I'm A Celebrity (best audience last year 10.14m) drop beneath Jonathan's audience?

Doctor Who

The Royle family :- There are rumours that the BBC are trying to secure a new episode for this Christmas.

Antiques Roadshow :- Cheated its way to a 10m audience with the £million item that was brought in by a local council rather than a member of the public.

Champions League Final :- Only likely to match last year's audience if there's an English club in the final. Very high likelihood.



So top 10 position for JC for the whole of 2009 a possibility. Can we think of anything else that might crack 10m this year and beat him?
Thebenster
11-02-2009
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“So top 10 position for JC for the whole of 2009 a possibility. Can we think of anything else that might crack 10m this year and beat him?”

Children in Need or possibly another charity marathon. Formula 1 back on the BBC could produce double figure ratings for the Brazilian GP. A big hitting ITV drama or other sporting events might feature highly.
iaindb
11-02-2009
Originally Posted by Thebenster:
“Children in Need or possibly another charity marathon. Formula 1 back on the BBC could produce double figure ratings for the Brazilian GP. A big hitting ITV drama or other sporting events might feature highly.”

The top 100 I've seen for 2008 gives Children In Need 9.83m, an average for the 3 hour programme between 7pm and 10pm. But the weekly figures split the 3 hours into 3 different hour long programmes with the hour at 9pm taking 11.2m

And of course it's Comic Relief this year always much more popular that Sports relief which was on last year (Top 100 audience 6.28m)

Biggest F1 audience last year was 9.08m. A lengthy build-up drags the audience for the whole programme down.

And Doc Martin will probably be on this autumn. He hit 10m last series.
rzt
11-02-2009
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“The top 100 I've seen for 2008 gives Children In Need 9.83m, an average for the 3 hour programme between 7pm and 10pm. But the weekly figures split the 3 hours into 3 different hour long programmes with the hour at 9pm taking 11.2m

And of course it's Comic Relief this year always much more popular that Sports relief which was on last year (Top 100 audience 6.28m)

Biggest F1 audience last year was 9.08m. A lengthy build-up drags the audience for the whole programme down.

And Doc Martin will probably be on this autumn. He hit 10m last series.”

I think New Tricks could also have a shot of getting into the Top 10, particularly if shown in the autumn/winter months. It got 9m+ during August, so it is possible. Also, perhaps The Apprentice if it increases its audience from last year.

As Thebenster mentions, the F1 could do it. Can't really think of any other sporting events apart from Champions League Final. The final England World Cup qualifier could do well, but with England likely to have qualified by then and it being on ITV1, I don't think it'll happen.

My bet on the Number One show of 2009 is the Christmas Day Doctor Who, especially if given a decent slot.
mlt11
11-02-2009
Originally Posted by rzt:
“ the F1 could do it. Can't really think of any other sporting events apart from Champions League Final. The final England World Cup qualifier could do well, but with England likely to have qualified by then and it being on ITV1, I don't think it'll happen. ”

Murray in Wimbledon Singles Final might do it.

Downside is 2pm start but tennis can appeal to non-sports fans more than football.

I don't think World Cup qualifiers have a chance as we'll qualify very easily so final game will be equivalent to a Friendly.
RobbieSykes123
11-02-2009
Originally Posted by square_eyes:
“So it's a Friday comedy double bill, it's going to need some good promotion I feel :

21:00 Moving Wallpaper
21:30 Al Murray's Multiple Personality Disorder”

That's good news for BBC1, with ITV1 putting out two shows that look capable of getting sub-2m audiences. I was pretty sure both these shows would get post 10pm slots. Surprising.

Could take QI towards 6m and help Not Going Out finally find an audience.

Originally Posted by JeffG1:
“So what's the alternative? Advertising?? I can't imagine anything worse.”

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for keeping the licence fee. But it is an anachronism in this day and age, one I'm happy with, and my point is that to maintain it, we need the BBC to continue providing popular services, with BBC1 being the nation's most watched channel and the BBC's radio services consistently outrating commercial radio.

Originally Posted by square_eyes:
“So, the Saturday 21st February schedules didn't significantly change

ITV1

18:15 Harry Hill's TV Burp
18:45 The Colour of Money
19:45 Ant & Dec's Saturday Night Takeaway

against BBC One's

16:30 Final Score
17:25 BBC News
17:45 Total Wipeout
18:40 Let's Dance for Comic Relief
20:00 The National Lottery Draw
20:10 Casualty”

Looks like ITV are worried about Let's Dance then. Putting big new hope Colour of Money out against it, wrapped up between TV Burp and Ant n Dec's House Party, seems to be directed at denting the charity show which they presumably fear could become another BBC1 hit format.

Don't know why they're worried - if it did take off for BBC1, they only need to bring out their own carbon copy...

BBC1 is making a mistake putting the lotto draw between Let's Dance and Casualty. They should have put Casualty at 8 with the draws at 8.50 - that way whatever audience Let's Dance does pull whilst head to head with Takeaway might stay around for Casualty rather than flicking over to ITV whilst the draws are on - and not coming back.
RobbieSykes123
11-02-2009
Originally Posted by mlt11:
“I don't think World Cup qualifiers have a chance as we'll qualify very easily so final game will be equivalent to a Friendly.”

Really? Were you not watching a very ordinary performance tonight by England? I would take nothing for granted...

Talking of which, I wonder how Steve Rider's Commercial Breakdown will have done tonight? With a late (and delayed) kick off of past 9.05pm and a match finish of 10.55pm, plus the 35 mins of pre-match and 15 mins post (when most won't have hung around at bedtime after a defeat), the overall average could be surprisingly low.

I had to feel sorry for Rider again tonight. Stuck with his ITV contract whilst the Beeb wrest back his beloved F1 and he had to watch players called Senna, Alonso and Piquet tonight.

At least he didn't have to make any grovelling apologies to the public this time...
rzt
11-02-2009
Originally Posted by mlt11:
“Murray in Wimbledon Singles Final might do it.

Downside is 2pm start but tennis can appeal to non-sports fans more than football.”

Oh yeh for sure. Even with a 2pm start, a Wimbledon final with a British player will be a momentus occasion and could be getting a very high share. This is what happened last year:
Quote:
“Sunday 6th July Overnights
13.30- Wimbledon 2008 Men’s Final: 7.4m (38.8%)
* Match average: 8.6m (43.1%)
* 5-minute peak: 13.3m (47.1%) at 21.15
* 15-minute peak: 12.7m (45.0%) at 21.00-21.15
* Session 1: 14.35-16.50: 7.0m (46.3%)
* Session 2: 18.10-19.55: 9.5m (43.1%)
* Session 3: 20.20-21.20: 10.9m (39.1%)
* 118% above channel slot average.”

So session 1 did very well in an early slot. With Murray involved, it could definitely hit the 10m barrier in my opinion. The thing is, I don't think he has a chance of reaching the final - good hardcourt player, but not so good on grass.
Agent F
11-02-2009
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Don't know why they're worried - if it did take off for BBC1, they only need to bring out their own carbon copy...”

Funny that, considering it's almost identical to a format that ITV was developing last year.
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