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Sherlock and Doctor Who: How the fans ruined their favourite TV shows
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CD93
08-01-2014
Originally Posted by CAMERA OBSCURA:
“Cheers.

Aye, Jump the Shark is chucked about much like deus ex machina.

The Guardian poll is very baiting, and extremely broad in its two options to say the least. But as we have said it is about web site hits, The Daily Mail worked this kind of trick out years ago.”

The Mail's investigative work has been even more impressive this time around.

Quote:
“Sherlock's alive! Season three trailer reveals detective LIVES after terrifying roof fall”

CAMERA OBSCURA
08-01-2014
Originally Posted by CD93:
“The Mail's investigative work has been even more impressive this time around.

Sherlock's alive! Season three trailer reveals detective LIVES after terrifying roof fall
”




That is insanely bad, it has to be on purpose to provoke comments/hits.

I have noticed over the years how articles on online news sites are more geared towards inviting hits/comments and people to link the pieces elsewhere, all at the expense of genuine journalistic pieces.

The Daily Mail have this down to a fine art.
They have worked out how to get a slice of the online forum pie so to speak.
Mulett
08-01-2014
Originally Posted by CAMERA OBSCURA:
“That is insanely bad, it has to be on purpose to provoke comments/hits.”

The Mail does famously miss the point quite often. I remember when Seth MacFarlane hosted the 2013 Oscars - he did a comedy section where he showed a 'parallel universe' awards where he had sung a really rude song and offended all the female stars in the audience.

The Mail reporter didn't realise it was a comedy sketch and wrote an entire article stating how he had been the worst oscars host ever and actually had sung that offensive song and offended all the female stars in the audience. They even illustrated the article with photographs of the 'offended' actresses sitting in the audience looking really angry and upset, not realising the actresses were in on the joke and where actually just, well, acting.
CAMERA OBSCURA
08-01-2014
Originally Posted by Mulett:
“The Mail does famously miss the point quite often. I remember when Seth MacFarlane hosted the 2013 Oscars - he did a comedy section where he showed a 'parallel universe' awards where he had sung a really rude song and offended all the female stars in the audience.

The Mail reporter didn't realise it was a comedy sketch and wrote an entire article stating how he had been the worst oscars host ever and actually had sung that offensive song and offended all the female stars in the audience. They even illustrated the article with photographs of the 'offended' actresses sitting in the audience looking really angry and upset, not realising the actresses were in on the joke and where actually just, well, acting.”



The thing is The Mail knows it key audience more than people give it credit for, and what knows what makes their blood boil, i.e faux outrage. I've no doubt that the writer of the piece you mentioned knew it was all a set up. BUT..Mr. and Mrs. Outraged from Surrey and Mr. or Mrs. Dumb Knee Jerk will have not seen the actual performance and take The Mail at its word every time...que post in comments section. JOB done, web site hits, advertisers happy.

More and more online news sites that require hits for advertisement revenue are coming round to this form of 'journalism'
DiscoP
08-01-2014
On the subject of fan's and how much notice execs should take of them, it's interesting that the creators of SHIELD seem to take the opposing view and seem very keen to listen to them:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/ustv/s22...-everyone.html

(although having watched the first few episodes I guess it couldn't get much worse, only in my humble opinion of course)
CD93
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by Granny McSmith:
“But I've often been fed up with Moff, only for him to deliver an amazing episode that is unbelievably good. I do hope he does that for me with the last Sherlock.”

Early reviews seem to indicate this is the case already
Granny McSmith
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by CD93:
“Early reviews seem to indicate this is the case already ”

If it is the case I will love Moff forever (or at least until the next time he writes a duff episode.).
CD93
09-01-2014
The Guardian has apparently celebrated by spoiling the episode in some way. Cast & Crew are warning to avoid it
DiscoP
09-01-2014
I'm not sure how concerned I should about the Moff's comments about Sherlock here:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s129/...ys-moffat.html

Particularly with reference to starving people of episodes and increased ratings!

Quote:
“"Sherlock started very well, the second series did better than the first and now the third is doing better than the second," he said. "It shows the benefits of starvation - put things on less often!"”

bp2
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by CD93:
“The Guardian has apparently celebrated by spoiling the episode in some way. Cast & Crew are warning to avoid it ”

If you are avoiding spoilers don't look at the Sherlock thread, the digital spy teasers and the radio times as well.
Granny McSmith
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by DiscoP:
“I'm not sure how concerned I should about the Moff's comments about Sherlock here:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s129/...ys-moffat.html

Particularly with reference to starving people of episodes and increased ratings!”

Yes, that worried me a bit, too.

I hope it was just a joke and not a policy statement.
Mulett
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by Granny McSmith:
“Yes, that worried me a bit, too. I hope it was just a joke and not a policy statement.”

I think its a reflection of what he already did to Who.
Granny McSmith
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by Mulett:
“I think its a reflection of what he already did to Who.”

We've not had to wait two years for three episodes of Doctor Who, though.

Not yet.
Mulett
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by Granny McSmith:
“We've not had to wait two years for three episodes of Doctor Who, though.

Not yet. ”

I hope you touched wood when you said that!
Mulett
09-01-2014
From today's Popbitch email:

>> Bag it up <<
Hitting out at Twitter
The new series of Sherlock has been drawing mixed reviews on social media. It's not escaped the notice of the people who worked on the series. One of them has been spotted at his gym taking out his frustrations on the punchbag. He calls the punchbag "Twitter".


On an unrelated note, my partner commented during the wedding episode how buff Mark Gattis was looking on that treadmill . . .
Benjamin Sisko
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by DiscoP:
“I'm not sure how concerned I should about the Moff's comments about Sherlock here:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s129/...ys-moffat.html

Particularly with reference to starving people of episodes and increased ratings!”

Not gonna lie, that's a pretty stupid way of phrasing. I mean, yes the ratings are good, but using the term starvation isn't the best thing to put in an interview. In fact, it's probably near the bottom in terms of phrases he could have used to address the gap. >_<
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