What do you want to see in this handset?

Rumours are that Samsung will take on apple in the security stakes and have an iris recogniser instead of the finger print scanner.

Also a metal chassis will incase the phone.

What do you think we will see in the handset?

When do you think we will get it?

Im hoping for a april/may release seeing as Samsung have released their previous devices around that time.

I'm looking forward to this phone and hope it has the following:

External SD memory card slot still.
Swapable battery still (for a spare).
5.25" screen with hardly any bezel so not much bigger than S3.
At least fingerprint lock (something I would like to have).
Fast CPU.
Better speakers.
Not bothered about metal case and in fact may even prefer plastic like already if it makes it lighter.

That's about it.

1. Strip all the memory-robbing Touchwiz crap out and go near-stock Android.

2. Stop making their supposed flagship phone out of the cheapest nastiest plastic in the plastics catalogue.

3. Embrace the notion that bigger isn't always better; make a version that retains the high specs, but with a screen less than the size of my TV.

So basically don't make it so 'Samsungy'.

Not bothered about Touchwiz as you can change the launcher anyway.

As long as it fits in my pocket then that's OK and a phone with a 5.25" screen will and yes bigger is better (like iI say as long as it fits in my pocket). I take it you have never had a large screened phone for a few months and then tried a smaller one (even my wifes S2 4.3" screen feels too small now but I would never go so big it did not fit in my pocket). How can they make a top spec phone with a screen smaller than 4.5" nowadays.

What are you doing with your phone? Hammering in nails - why not plastic as like I've said before they even make top of the range Ferraris out of plastic?

He said to stop using cheap plastic - a Ferrari won't use cheap plastic.

Even in the S3 the plastic is not standard plastic.

The back is virtually unbreakable. Amazing stuff as you can bend the ends together without it breaking.

It's more than fit for the purpose in a phone.

You want something light (with still being strong), light along with letting wireless signals through.

I think this is what many people have trouble with. With the cost of the phone they are looking for something a bit more special.

To be hosnest my wife has an S3 and I like it.

Well I’m thinking of it more as from a perspective of what would make the product better for consumes as a whole.


I’m sure the engineering challenges of miniaturising high specs into a more modest sized package is a lot higher than just making it bigger. And while Samsung have shown little inclination towards doing this (e.g. S4 Mini), I don’t believe it’s impossible. Are you suggesting they’re not up to that challenge?


I’m not saying don’t use plastic. Nokia and more recently Apple have proved that plastic can still have a quality feel. But Samsung’s use of plastic does not feel that way. Even their flagship models that you might expect would feel high quality, instead feels disposable. Like they should be sold in packs of ten.

I want the Galaxy S5 to have a Google Play Edition, and for that edition to actually be released outside of the US.

I think it will be a fairly mundane upgrade. I just hope they don't put that hideous fake leather stuff all over it. A metal unibody design would be nice, but then design has never really been Samsung's strong point. I find their devices can be quite gaudy and chintzy, especially with the Touchwiz UI.

It would be good if they matched the Xperia Z1 and made it dustproof and waterproof.

I think the engineering challenge they would have is how to utilise a 'unibody design' while still retaining a removal battery. So many manufacturers have forsaken the latter to attain the former. Samsung is one of the last remaining holdouts.

Well then perhaps not unibody, but the metal surround casing that the Nexus One employed. That way there is metal within the casing, but not at the expense of a removable battery.

I think HTC have also found ways to add a removable battery while using metal casing on a device.

It's probably more of a cost/profit margin issue than anything else. Most Samsung devices don't seem particularly complex to make, when compared with the HTC One for example.

Probably helps explain why Samsung are profitable and HTC aren't - they manage to eek out every penny in manufacturing but can still charge a lot for the phones because they are of high quality.

Already exists in complete stock Android.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ga...google+edition


Already done. It's made of some of the most expensive high quality plastics available.
http://bgr.com/2013/05/09/galaxy-s4-plastic-quality/


Already done. Which is why the S4 is smaller in some dimensions than the S3 that came before it.

So basically don't make it so 'Samsungy'. [/quote]

Ferrari would use the exact same "cheap plastic" as Samsung:

The S4 mini like all other mini phones is a cheap imitation. It has the specs closer to that of the S2. Which is why the model number is also that of an upgraded S2 (i9100 vs i9190) rather than the S4 (i9500).

To date I don't know of anybody who's made a "small" phone with either a full HD display or quad-core CPU.

It's called a removable metal casing.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=HTC+Sensation

But as has been discovered many times in the past, a full metal case blocks radio signals. Which therefore require either plastic gaps in the metal (which HTC use) or external antenna connected through holes in the metal (which Apple use).

@OP

Not sure, I have grown to love my S4. I had switched to the google play edition, then switched back to the original firmware.

I dont want a unibody design. I dont want a smaller phone. I dont want a fingerprint scanner or iris scanner. I expect they will go 64bit, but it serves no purpose at the moment.

It would be nice to have better sound but phone speakers in general are terrible. The most desirable feature for me is already on the moto x and that is handsfree usage (always on). Having had a Moto X to play with for a week, that is a killer feature and one I expect most high end phones to have in 2014. I am happy with the battery life as the S4 has a really good power save feature. Touchwiz has become less intrusive and I would like to see that continue - perhaps even becoming optional modular components loaded through the playstore.

Ferrari cars and the F1 cars are very different. And there are many grades of polycarbonate as well.

Except when Ferraris ARE formula 1 cars:

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ferrari+formula+1

Well, yes...didn't think I needed to add that, I'm sure most people know Ferrari do both - Ferrari road cars and Ferrari F1 cars are very different.

You said Ferrari won't use cheap plastic

Ferrari make formula 1 cars

Formula 1 cars use the same "cheap plastic" as the Galaxy S4.

So what you really meant to say was, Ferrari won't use cheap plastic except when they do.

No - I mean that Ferrari cars won't use cheap plastic. Even if they use a polycarbonate it would be a high grade one.

Ferrari F1 would use what ever is best for the purposes - usually lightest and strongest. If it's cheap or expensive it doesn't matter - just what suits the job best.

So what you're trying to say is, Formula 1 cars, aren't cars?

Similarly, you're saying it's perfectly acceptable for a Ferrari F1 car, among some of the most elite and expensive cars on the planet, to use "what suits the job best" even if it's cheap, but if Samsung use the exact same plastic because it's "what suits the job best" it's crap, because it's cheap.

No, I'm not saying that - bizarre idea?!

I am saying Ferrai cars and Ferrari F1 cars have very different thought processes when they are deciding what materials to use in them.

You said Ferrari won't use cheap plastic.

I've shown you Ferrari use the same cheap plastic as Samsung.

So you pretend to change your story to Ferrari cars don't use cheap plastic.

I've shown you Ferrari cars use the same cheap plastic as Samsung.

Now you pretend to change your story to Ferrari F1 cars and road cars aren't the same thing.

Well that's bleeding obvious, but they're still both Ferrari and still both cars. And Ferrari still use the same grade of polycarbonate as Samsung.