F1 cars use whatever they need suits the job.

I've never said Samsung use cheap plastic. I said people think they use cheap plastic and believe that Samsung should use a better quality of plastic.

If you read my comments you would have seen I think what they use is fine.

Your comment said F1 cars and helmets use the same type of plastic as the Samsung case.

I said Ferrari road cars may use the same type of plastic but would use a higher grade.

I said Ferrari F1 cars would use whatever is best for their purpose.

No, you said:


So now you're in denial of your original statement, as you seem to be admitting Ferrari do use the same "cheap plastic" as Samsung, because it's "appropriate".

Indeed. F1 cars are highly specialised and hi-tech vehicles, usually employing the pinnacle of technology. In some cases, this technology later filters down into the mainstream automotive market.

The fact that Ferrari has opted to use the same grade of polycarbonate in their F1 vehicles as Samsung does for their mobile devices, shows that the material is of high quality. Though I'm not the biggest fan of the plastic feel in Samsung devices, there's no denying that they are durable and the material functional in that respect.

Ferrari F1 cars may well do. Ferrari road cars will not.

In my original post I said Ferrari which is the road car division. Ferrari F1 is separate.

Have you ever looked at an F1 car in real life close up?

A lot of the parts of an F1 car are certainly not high quality - they are built to last a race and not much more - quite a long way away from the build of the Ferrari road cars.

If anything they can have a slightly underwhelming look to them.

No it isn't.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari

And now you're trying to defend your misinformation with "F1 cars are cheap"?

What about crash helmets then, designed to be as strong as possible while retaining as little weight as possible?

As the saying goes, when in hole, stop digging.

Polycarbonate is the de-facto standard for high quality, strong plastics and is used everywhere, including in Ferrari F1 cars and road cars. Get over it.

Even that confirms that it's Scuderia Ferrari which is the F1 racing part. They have different manufacturing/design/engineering etc.

Same as Mclaren road cars and McLaren F1 are separate. Same as Catherham F1 and Caterham road cars are. And Mercedes.

No, not saying F1 cars are cheap at all.

I agree crash helmets are made with polycarbonate - although Ferrari do not make helmets.

Still digging for misinformation I see.

Like I said, you're wrong. Get over it.

I need not get over it as I have said that they both will use polycarbonate. I just said that Ferrari roadcars would not use a cheap grade and that the F1 side would use what ever was best for them.

It's not 1929 now - the F1 team is run separately from the road company.

Still digging for misinformation I see.

There is no such thing as a "cheap grade". Stop making up falsehoods.

Meanwhile, the iPhone 5c is also made of polycarbonate. Surprise surprise.

Presumably, everyone except Samsung uses completely inappropriate mixes of polycarbonate just to avoid using "cheap" stuff, when "cheap plastic" happens to be the most appropriate? Like I said, you're wrong, get over it.

Seeing as everyone seems interedted - here is a bit of information about polycarbonates:

http://www.bpf.co.uk/Plastipedia/Pol...carbonate.aspx

Of course you can get cheaper grades of polycarbonate and many different types.

My phone the Lumia 800 is made of the stuff as well. A different type to Samsungs as there is no/very little flex in it.

Also I never said Samsung uses cheap stuff.

I think people get confused between what looks like more expensive and materials that suit the job.

If you were to make a phone case out of hand crafted mahogany wood, solid gold or crystal that would be and look very expensive but very heavy or not functional.

Using some high end plastic would be a lot more functional and better for the job in hand even if it does not cost as much as the other materials.

The plastic even used on my S3 is amazing and not some run of the mill plastic and I doubt they would have been able to make it 10 years ago as I've never seen plastic so durable.

They have certainly come a long way since the days of Bakerlite (excuse the spelling).

People would be forgiven for thinking that was your opinion and what you were inferring when you say stuff like

Spot on.

Especially given the Galaxy S series remains the best selling non-Apple smartphone around the globe, and each new model continues to sell more than the last, and settings sales records, it's clear it there's literally millions of people who think it's just fine.

What are you doing with your phone? Hammering in nails - why not plastic as like I've said before they even make top of the range Ferraris out of plastic?

I was replying to this though - and I just said that Ferrari (roadcars) would not use cheap plastics.

A GPE so we can either buy one or flash the rom and get of the god awful TW.
A RGB sub pixel arrangement for the inevitable amoled screen (wont happen).
SD card slot (which I don't need and does not work properly anyway but people would be heartbroken if it wasn't there).
64 bit (I bloody well hope so).
Ceramic unibody (wont happen).

Why not?

The S2 had an RGB subpixel arrangement, and followed on from the previous S1 with the same res and pentile.

You would be surprised how fashionable retro Bakelite has now become in certain avenues.

Fashion is a weird thing. Once its in mass fashion(the followers of fashion, not the setters of fashion), insecure or gullible people may call other stuff stupid.

Who wants a near pointless semi beta product simply so that the RAM can go above 1TB?

ARM have categorically said that 64bit and 32 bit products of generation similarity, are near identical in speed.

Do that and they might as well go the whole hog and have a metal case so that we get more dropped calls and a less sensitive GPS.

Because I don't think the that Samsung have the tech ability to make a durable panel at 1080p with RGB. I hope I am wrong.

I actually think it will be a 2k pentile panel.

Samsung. They want to be at the front of Android. In a year all high end Android phones will be 64bit. Do you really think it is just about the amount of ram that can be addressed? You need to do a bit of reading.

And what has 64bit got to do with metal casings? I want a ceramic unibody on a phone which would allow radio signals through just as well as cheap plastic - or expensive plastic come to that.