That's a may be BUT it certainly does not look or feel anything near as high quality plastic as Apple, for example, use! If it is as high quality as Samsung state they disguise it well.

It all plastics and metals just feel smooth if you do not texture them in anyway so not sure about what you mean by it does not feel as good?

Also when the back cover is on my S3 it feels very solid (maybe not solid enough to crack nuts with but solid enough).

Sarcasm?
64bit has all to do with marketing and the future, a future maybe with more suitable 64 bit product lines. I even see more validity in the argument for 4:3 screens. Now that is saying something.

At the money 64 bit is only really noticeable when IOS now crashes, beta like. A bit of 64 bit code bloat adding to those memory leaks?

This is a joke right? It feels exactly the same!! It feels plasticity on both phones!

The Galaxy 4 belongs in the same blend of top quality technology as
the One and G2.

So what will come new considering it is already at the very top?

I would like to see a Touchwiz overhaul of all the UI that are out there. I still think Touchwiz is among the worst of them I know I'm not the only person who thinks that either it's not the look of the S4 that puts me of it is the look of the UI.

In what way does the look of TW differ from stock so dramatically that it would turn you off the phone?

It's hideous. And it does borrow far too many skeuomorphic cues from the iOS of old for my liking.

Stock Android just seems slicker and more polished. Plus, reviewers of the Galaxy S4 Google Play Edition all noticed a definite speed-bump with the absence of TouchWiz.

Enapace tried something similar with the S4 launch.
At least this time a 'that's how I feel' claim cant be so easily ridiculed. Baaaaaaa.

How come no one hates the stock Android skin?
In Linux X86 with its different GUIs we don't have any 'only one GUI is the master' standard claim.

Funny that.

You do realise all plastics can feel differently?

The plastic on my keyboard feels different to what is on my mouse which feels different to what is in my car.

Well obviously!!

Just to me they both feel just as plasticy.

The original point was about the look of TW , I am perplexed how it differs in any real way to stock in appearance. Specifically to turn someone off a phone by that look.

I fail to see how anyone would say stock android is particularly attractive. As for slicker and more polished I would disagree entirely by that is subjective.

I actually find there's quite a few benefits in TW.

Take the drop down toggles in the notification menu for example - TW had that for years before it got copied.

I would concur also camera and some of the built in elements I use regularly. In any event I certainly would not subscribe to the stock is the only version to have thinking full stop.

The nexus 5 ticks all but box 2. So there you have it

HTC One Google Edition ticks all the boxes yet isn't selling as well as the S4...

Probably more to do with marketing than anything else.

Samsung is the enemy. Its an unreasoned argument apart from, 'it is Samsung, it must be crap, buy an ...'.
You simply never here these rants about all the interesting Linux GUIs. And nobody gives a stuff that the Amazon Fire has its own interesting GUI.

Sad really, as in the end it all intended to persuade the more sheepish to buy low tech etc.

Yes it does seem in many respects that Samsung must be hated by some for making great phones. However as there phones are continually rated the best things such as TW and casing become disproportionately bad as justification.

It's very common. The more popular a phone is the more people feel the need to criticise it.

Is it wow that seems very strange and a very silly reason to criticise something but if you say that is what people are doing on here fair enough.

They do it with certain other phones so why do you find it strange Samsung comes in for the same treatment?

Generally anything very popular can often come in for a lot of criticism.

See blockbuster movies, tabloid newspapers, TV soaps, popular cars etc etc

So what is the non fact iPhone mantra?
I can only think of real stuff like 'cheap low resolution screen'.

The Moto G heralded 720p(or less) quality screens being cheap products. Real competition, its good for the consumer.

I fail to see how anyone can say stock Android is not the most attractive mobile OS. What is the alternative? iOS, not with ugly version 7. WP8 with it's big ugly tiles? I don't think so. Compared to TW the AOSP look is a piece of art. I put my Nexus 4 next to my wife's Note and my son's S3 and the difference is marked. TW is ugly, bloated, hogs memory and slows down phones. Samsung should be ashamed of it. It doesn't stop people buying their phones though.

Yes yes, sarcasm. I see it now. How stupid of me to miss that.

Now that is sarcasm.

64bit is needed. It starts now. Get over it. Were you like this when colour screens were brought in?