What do you think are the biggest events in which see have happened? I personally think Ray was over marked quite a bit in his series. Hayley in her week 1 performance deserved a higher score as did Suzanne.

Undermarking: Every time my favourite got a lower score than I wanted.
Overmarking: Every time my least favourite got a higher score than I wanted.

I've never really found DOI too bad for over/under marking. Occasionally I would disagree with a judges score, but felt over all they were usually quite fair.

The only time I felt they werent quite right was when Chris Fountain had said he wasn't going on the tour and his scores didn't seem to improve as much as I thought they should. Seemed a bit odd, but he was my favourite at the time so may just have been me getting annoyed that Suzanne was beginning to claim top spot.

Matt Lapinskas is the obvious overmarked one. Zoe Salmon was overmarked also with Ruthie taking it to ridiculous levels and in the same series I really think Donal was undermarked. Glad in these cases that the public saw sense though.

In series 8 the case was:

Matt: Overmarked

Beth: Undermarked

I've always thought that Beth's flying deserved 40.

I think Ashley had the right idea, giving them high marks every week gives them nowhere to improve,

Yes, but to the extent she and Jason did it was ridiculous. According to her marks, matt's week 10 performances were twice as good as his week 1 performance.

The judges should use their logic to give the couples an appropriate mark, and not just mark them down because it'san early week.

It's funny cause I always thought Zoe was under marked and Donal over marked lol. Matt Lapinskas was massively over marked i thought though. The worst one for over marking in my opinion

What matters is relative position, and besides the vote even can overturn that.

Marking is my problem for this all stars series. Here are people with scores of tens now scoring 6's

The fact Joe got a 7.0 tonight from Jason after he had given Jorgie a 6.5 and then gave Kyran a 6.5 was ridiculous. Yes Joe has improved the most, but that's because he was rubbish in his own series when they rest were all pretty good.

Thought Jorgie, Gareth & Kyran deserved more marks tonight.

Joe was spot on really (would have given it a 6, not a 5.5 or 7)

Thought Bonnie was way off where she should be, Hayley was about right, maybe deserved a mark lower

Jorgie should have got higher and she would gave if Jason hadn't undermarked her.

Indeed. Ruthie liked Zoe because she rightly spotted Zoe could act and dance well , and better than ome actors on that series. She had no vote, coming from the BBC, kids Tv and N Ireland - none of which helps on DOI. Donal was pretty useless, but looked rugged and masculine and appealed to a sector of the vote and judges.

Matt L was marked up for an acting ability that I never saw , skating ability that produces nothing much worth watching, and not very exciting tricks compared to what Beth was doing. That was truly bizarre - as things like his terrible posture never attracted judges comments or deductions.

Which just goes to prove it is personal preference. I thought Ray was utterly brilliant in his series (not so good tonight) and no score was too high. Hayley wasn't all that at the beginning but was good by the end. Suzanne I agree with.

Roxanne Pallett was constantly undermarked I remember!

Scores did not count tonight, wonder how it would be ifthey had...

IMO, for what it's worth, I think Jason only gave Kyran a 6.5 because if he had marked him higher, then he would have beaten Ray on the leaderboard. I know the judges scores didn't count this week and that he wouldn't have known what the other three judges would have scored him, but I think he marked him lower than what he thought Kyran should have got so that he didn't beat Ray. I remember what Jason was like with Ray during his series. He loved him and he even punched the air with delight when he won. He slated Ruthie for having a favourite with Zoe, but he had a favourite with Ray.

Maybe he thought that as Kyran is now skating for a living he should have been better than he was.

I don't really remember there being anyone I massively thought was undermarked or overmarked. Except Joe last night yes if your marking on improvement he probably deserved that 7 and if Kyran is constantly skating these days he can probably get better however when you look at the programme as a whole Jason implied Joe was better than Kyran and it just wasn't the case

I'd say the scores on DOI are pretty much spot on most of the time - not to say there hasn't been cases of under/overmarking though.

The most obvious case being Matt L last series (over) and Beth (under). Samia was also overmarked chronically until it became blindingly obvious she really couldn't skate.

Thought the leaderboard postitions were pretty much spot on last night. Interesting to see where Hayley ended up - she did look 'just good' compared to the other girls, not as good as we had been led to believe. Shows she really didn't have much competition in her series.

I did not agree with the placing of Gareth last night. What he and Brianne did at least had some semblance of conveying a story and some effort to present the skating not just the lifts.

And what about Sunday? You say he was rubbish in his own series when the rest were pretty good. But his fellow rival celebrity skaters were no pushovers this time round either. He had the likes of Bonnie Landford and Ray Quinn. This time last year he could not lace up a pair of skates without falling down. The guy was a no-hoper. But what I saw on Sunday was someone who finally managed to skate with balance and actual fluidity and grace. He finally looked comfortable putting one skate in front of the other. He didn't really wobble much at all. Even if he couldn't perform much in the way of tricks. But the best trick was just having the last laugh and showing us he can skate. He was performing on the level we pretty much say Kyran did in Week 1 of his series. In fact he was on the same level as most of them in Week 1 of their series.

But the problem with being good is you get boring and repetitive. A yawn-fest. You plateau. You hit the ceiling. It isn't possible to improve any more. It is the same time and time again. But at Joe's level there is acres of room to become better. That is where the losers like Joe Pasquale, Todd Carty and Keith Chegwin can look better than the top ones. Any improvement will all come from the ones who are the bottom of the pecking order.

Only Jason saw that. The other judges were mean. He should have been given a 10 for just managing to stand up straight without wobbling.