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Old 06-01-2014, 01:29
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Im shocked she was on benefits it makes me wonder though when her fee runs out will she be back on benefits
If she cant find work, yes, why not ?
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Old 06-01-2014, 01:33
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But she has been paid alot of money in CBB so really she shouldnt be entitled to benefits she should save the money she gets and live on that
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Old 06-01-2014, 01:35
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But she has been paid alot of money in CBB so really she shouldnt be entitled to benefits she should save the money she gets and live on that
Which she obviously plans to do hence her benefits ending last week.

She even said herself, hopefully CBB can begin a new start for her.
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Old 06-01-2014, 01:35
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But she has been paid alot of money in CBB so really she shouldnt be entitled to benefits she should save the money she gets and live on that
You said when her fee runs out though.

make your mind up, Sweet.
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Old 06-01-2014, 01:38
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Im just saying shes being paid alot obviously from being in CBB so really she should survive on whatever money she gets and not go back on benefits when that drys up
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Old 06-01-2014, 01:40
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Didnt the Nolans do a big tour in 2009 for the 30th anniversary
There was only four of them that did the tour & DVD, I thought it was a sell out tour, it must not have paid much

they left out Anne & Denise from the line up so they fell out with the rest of them
Anne and Denise made up with Bernie & Maureen but it took the death of Bernie to get Coleen and Linda to put the past behind them and make up

The farewell tour that was due spring 2013 was cancelled in Oct 2012 when they found out about Bernies cancer returning
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Old 06-01-2014, 01:44
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But she has been paid alot of money in CBB so really she shouldnt be entitled to benefits she should save the money she gets and live on that
If you actually listened to what she said you may have learned something. She said she was on benefits a week before going into the house. Now that she is in the house she will have signed off from benefits. When she leaves the house she will not be entitled to basic benefits because she will have money in the bank that she will have to live off. When that money runs out and she reaches the basic limit for savings, then she can sign on again. Unless of course, she is employed in some way or other in the media, in that case her money worries are over. If not she will follow the same rules that apply to everyone else, and eventually will claim benefits, which she will be entitled to.
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Old 06-01-2014, 01:54
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Im just saying shes being paid alot obviously from being in CBB so really she should survive on whatever money she gets and not go back on benefits when that drys up
Let me get this right. She lives on the money that she gets from CBB, and does not claim benefits, which is only right. But when that money runs out (and she cannot just spend it how she wants, and claim benefits in 2 weeks time, the money earned is divided by the benefit limit into the money earned, so she may not be able to claim for some years) you are stating that she should live on the streets. I really don't understand what you mean by not going back on benefits. Maybe you may need to educate yourself on exactly how benefits are allocated.
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Old 06-01-2014, 02:03
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Im just saying shes being paid alot obviously from being in CBB so really she should survive on whatever money she gets and not go back on benefits when that drys up
She's being paid so much that when it dries up she's not entitled to benefits even if she can't find work or earn money any other way?

Because... you say so?
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Old 06-01-2014, 02:10
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She's being paid so much that when it dries up she's not entitled to benefits even if she can't find work or earn money any other way?

Because... you say so?
Honestly, she's a middle-aged woman who should have some sort of financial stability. She should be using this opportunity to sensibly plan her future career, and not clutching at the hope that CBB will relaunch her (which it definitely won't). She could use the money to start up a small business? Why should she be able to splash it all on a lavish lifestyle, safe in the knowledge she'll be able to go back to living on benefits when it runs dry.
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Old 06-01-2014, 02:17
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Honestly, she's a middle-aged woman who should have some sort of financial stability. She should be using this opportunity to sensibly plan her future career, and not clutching at the hope that CBB will relaunch her (which it definitely won't). She could use the money to start up a small business? Why should she be able to splash it all on a lavish lifestyle, safe in the knowledge she'll be able to go back to living on benefits when it runs dry.
Should. Should. Should. Should.

Things, the world, people should be a lot of things. But nobody's perfect and life doesn't always map out the way you plan or the way it should.

If she has no regular income then she shouldn't be expected to live forever on one lump sum of cash. Because whether she has a lavish lifestyle or whether she lives on basics, the one lump sum from CBB is not going to last forever.
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Old 06-01-2014, 02:24
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Should. Should. Should. Should.

Things, the world, people should be a lot of things. But nobody's perfect and life doesn't always map out the way you plan or the way it should.

If she has no regular income then she shouldn't be expected to live forever on one lump sum of cash. Because whether she has a lavish lifestyle or whether she lives on basics, the one lump sum from CBB is not going to last forever.
No, but people ought to learn from mistakes. All I'm saying is, instead of her spending the cash on I don't know, a nice car and champagne, she could at least try to invest it wisely.

The idea that somebody can just abuse the welfare system in that way doesn't sit well with me. I'm not saying she will definitely go back on benefits, and I hope she uses the money wisely. However, I predict she'll assume she's now famous again, appear on BOTS a few times, then disappear to spend the cash, and in a year or two, take the familiar trip back to the Job Centre...
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Old 06-01-2014, 02:26
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No, but people ought to learn from mistakes. All I'm saying is, instead of her spending the cash on I don't know, a nice car and champagne, she could at least try to invest it wisely.
She hasn't even left the house to do anything with the money yet. How do you know what she plans to do with it, the state of her finances or how she ended up on benefits?

You're making presumptions in a "Someone is on TV and claiming benefits, but I thought everyone in TV was rich" kind of way. That's how it comes across.
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Old 06-01-2014, 02:27
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My issue wasn't with her claiming benefits, my issue is that I doubt she was actively seeking work like another claimant of Job Seeker's Allowance. She's from the world of Showbiz, and I doubt she'd lower herself to working in somewhere like a supermarket. So she's accepted a cheque from Big Brother... What's gonna happen when that runs out? She'll be back on benefits, looking for her idea of work, but by then she won't have any relevance and she'll have no choice but to get a real job.
Ah, well that's another issue. What alternative is there? ESA, for the ill and disabled? As far as I can tell, she's perfectly fine. She seems to be coping well in the Big Brother house. I'd be even more angry if I found out she was claiming ESA, as she's clearly fit enough to work.
I know if I was in her position I'd realize that my career in showbiz is over, and I need to start planning an alternative career in the long term to support myself. Like I said, she's accepted a cheque from Big Brother which is all well and good, but that won't last, and she'll be in the exact same position, perhaps worse.
Honestly, she's a middle-aged woman who should have some sort of financial stability. She should be using this opportunity to sensibly plan her future career, and not clutching at the hope that CBB will relaunch her. She could use the money to start up a small business? Why should she be able to splash it all on a lavish lifestyle, safe in the knowledge she'll be able to go back to living on benefits when it runs dry.
What makes you think she is/has/or intends to live a lavish life style? We don't know how much she has earned or how it was spent. Your starting premise based on the posts on this thread seem to be based entirely on your own supposition that you believe she is profligate with money, splashing it about in some cavalier manner of which you seem to disapprove. On another thread you refer to Lionel funding a lavish retirement which you also seemed to find offensive even if it is money that he earned. On what do you base these statements about how lavishly they spend their money?
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Old 06-01-2014, 02:27
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But she has been paid alot of money in CBB so really she shouldnt be entitled to benefits she should save the money she gets and live on that
What for the rest of her life How much was she paid

Honestly, she's a middle-aged woman who should have some sort of financial stability. She should be using this opportunity to sensibly plan her future career, and not clutching at the hope that CBB will relaunch her (which it definitely won't). She could use the money to start up a small business? Why should she be able to splash it all on a lavish lifestyle, safe in the knowledge she'll be able to go back to living on benefits when it runs dry.
What has her age got to do with it other than it somewhat goes towards explaining what has happened to her IE life. She explained that she got ill, then her husband got ill and she wasn't working for all of that time and ran out of money and so was claiming benefits. Her husband has now died and she has been given this opportunity to go on CBB. She hopes this will give her an opportunity and of course she is no longer claiming benefits.

She sounds like success story to me
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Old 06-01-2014, 02:30
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No, but people ought to learn from mistakes. All I'm saying is, instead of her spending the cash on I don't know, a nice car and champagne, she could at least try to invest it wisely.

The idea that somebody can just abuse the welfare system in that way doesn't sit well with me. I'm not saying she will definitely go back on benefits, and I hope she uses the money wisely. However, I predict she'll assume she's now famous again, appear on BOTS a few times, then disappear to spend the cash, and in a year or two, take the familiar trip back to the Job Centre...
What exactly is there to invest wisely in? If she can't make money from showbiz, or can't find another job, then she like the rest of the country without a regular source of income should be able to get benefits.
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Old 06-01-2014, 02:32
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She hasn't even left the house to do anything with the money yet. How do you know what she plans to do with it, the state of her finances or how she ended up on benefits?

You're making presumptions in a "Someone is on TV and claiming benefits, but I thought everyone in TV was rich" kind of way. That's how it comes across.
Perhaps I am making presumptions. My only problem was the thought of her being able to splash out on whatever she liked, then go back to claiming benefits. I wasn't saying that's what she was going to do, but the idea of it is wrong, in my opinion. I'm just saying I hope she tries (whether or not her attempt fails) to use the money as an investment, rather than a spending-spree.
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Old 06-01-2014, 02:33
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But she has been paid alot of money in CBB so really she shouldnt be entitled to benefits she should save the money she gets and live on that
And how do you know she wont?
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Old 06-01-2014, 02:38
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This is all conjecture.

And in any case, we don't even know if it was Job Seeker's Allowance that she was claiming. We're just assuming that it was. Wasn't she recently unwell with cancer? Perhaps it was some kind of incapacity benefit.

You shouldn't worry about it so much.
This.

and this: http://www.macmillan.org.uk/Cancerin...ialissues.aspx
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Old 06-01-2014, 02:42
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What makes you think she is/has/or intends to live a lavish life style? We don't know how much she has earned or how it was spent. Your starting premise based on the posts on this thread seem to be based entirely on your own supposition that you believe she is profligate with money, splashing it about in some cavalier manner of which you seem to disapprove. On another thread you refer to Lionel funding a lavish retirement which you also seemed to find offensive even if it is money that he earned. On what do you base these statements about how lavishly they spend their money?
Firstly, I don't find Lionel living lavishly offensive. On that thread, I was merely pointing out he is no living legend, and instead is a washed up entertainer who probably just wants a luxurious retirement. I don't care how he spends his money.

Secondly, I do think there's something wrong with Linda spending her cash without even trying to use it as an investment, then turning to the welfare system.

My opinion on Lionel and Linda, though negative, are very different.
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Old 06-01-2014, 02:45
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Perhaps I am making presumptions. My only problem was the thought of her being able to splash out on whatever she liked, then go back to claiming benefits. I wasn't saying that's what she was going to do, but the idea of it is wrong, in my opinion. I'm just saying I hope she tries (whether or not her attempt fails) to use the money as an investment, rather than a spending-spree.

Why shouldn't she splash out on what she likes? Anyone can fall on hard times due to unforseen circumstances even International Socialites like yourself. I would imaging that during the period that she was having treatment and recovering from breast cancer she wasn't earning any money. Losing her husband was obviously a terrible psychological blow and will have had financial repercussions too. Savings really don't last forever when there is no money coming in. You do seem to be very judgemental IMO. After the few years that she's had I really do hope that she splashes out on herself a bit .......God knows she deserves a bit of a boost.

One day you may be old like Lionel .......you may find yourself unemployed with nothing to fall back on. How do you think you'll cope if people are as judgemental as you?
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Old 06-01-2014, 02:46
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Firstly, I don't find Lionel living lavishly offensive. On that thread, I was merely pointing out he is no living legend, and instead is a washed up entertainer who probably just wants a luxurious retirement. I don't care how he spends his money.

Secondly, I do think there's something wrong with Linda spending her cash without even trying to use it as an investment, then turning to the welfare system.

My opinion on Lionel and Linda, though negative, are very different.
The reason I put them together is because they are both seem to be based on assumptions you have made. I was just wondering if there is any substance to the assumptions.
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Old 06-01-2014, 02:47
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What exactly is there to invest wisely in? If she can't make money from showbiz, or can't find another job, then she like the rest of the country without a regular source of income should be able to get benefits.
I'm sure she's more than capable than working in other industries. So, for arguments sake let's say she's at a meeting with her job adviser. Is it okay for her to be picky and state she will only work in showbiz, then claim her benefit?

I don't see why, like many other people, she can't use the money to set up her own business? She could do many things productively with the money. Anything is better than her going back to claiming benefits.
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Old 06-01-2014, 02:52
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Perhaps I am making presumptions. My only problem was the thought of her being able to splash out on whatever she liked, then go back to claiming benefits. I wasn't saying that's what she was going to do, but the idea of it is wrong, in my opinion. I'm just saying I hope she tries (whether or not her attempt fails) to use the money as an investment, rather than a spending-spree.
she's also suffered ill health too for a long time, yet continued to do a lot of charity work, and worked as a foster carer to give foster parents a break - if you look at this thread. Not everyone has the kind of mind and skills in order to set up their own business, and perhaps she hasn't had the money or support to do so - having lost her husband,mother and sister and having cancer herself !!!

the money from CBB could well be used to pay off debts she's accumulated that led to her being in financial difficulty in the first place - she's now worked for it, so she can spend her money on how she sees fit and hopefully wisely after CBB.

- The woman's in the house, earning, not claiming benefits, so why the issue ? A lot of actors, soap stars, singers do make a lot of money, then declare themselves bankrupt and end up on benefits as they've blown the lot - I think Linda's back story isn't like that, and the benefit system is there for those down on their luck for whatever reason, she's a darn sight more worthy of getting help than some of the stories of people i've read about.
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Old 06-01-2014, 02:52
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Why shouldn't she splash out on what she likes? Anyone can fall on hard times due to unforseen circumstances even International Socialites like yourself. I would imaging that during the period that she was having treatment and recovering from breast cancer she wasn't earning any money. Losing her husband was obviously a terrible psychological blow and will have had financial repercussions too. Savings really don't last forever when there is no money coming in. You do seem to be very judgemental IMO. After the few years that she's had I really do hope that she splashes out on herself a bit .......God knows she deserves a bit of a boost.

One day you may be old like Lionel .......you may find yourself unemployed with nothing to fall back on. How do you think you'll cope if people are as judgemental as you?
Well that's your view I suppose, I can't change that.

Personally, I don't think somebody should be able to spend a load of cash, then immediately start claiming benefits. To me, as a taxpayer, using the welfare system in that way is offensive.
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