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greenyone
06-01-2014
Originally Posted by Odette Valmont:
“Honestly, she's a middle-aged woman who should have some sort of financial stability. She should be using this opportunity to sensibly plan her future career, and not clutching at the hope that CBB will relaunch her (which it definitely won't). She could use the money to start up a small business? Why should she be able to splash it all on a lavish lifestyle, safe in the knowledge she'll be able to go back to living on benefits when it runs dry.”

If only everyone lived in. A world that your describing life would be so easy
Ray_Smith
06-01-2014
Linda Nolan quotes:
Quote:
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“It was just too difficult for me. I was feeling suicidal. And I was dealing with so much. But the worst part for me was to go on benefits. It made me feel like a loser”

"Doing this show will make my life easier. It means I'm financially secure for the first time in a long time."”

I don't think she's done anything wrong. If she's entitled to benefits then she's entitled to them. And now she's doing CBB she doesn't need the benefits so the state is saving some money.
muggins14
06-01-2014
Originally Posted by Odette Valmont:
“Well that's your view I suppose, I can't change that.

Personally, I don't think somebody should be able to spend a load of cash, then immediately start claiming benefits. To me, as a taxpayer, using the welfare system in that way is offensive.”

Well she hasn't done that yet so don't worry about it unless it happens! Reading the article below it's obvious that Linda Nolan has been and will likely continue to be a hard-working woman, even working when she and her husband had cancer. She says she wants to re-train as a counsellor and has obviously done a charity gig or two, and also helps foster parents, so she's hardly a shirker.

Originally Posted by Flower Pot:
“i found this one more insightful

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrit...0#.UsoZibSO3Uk”

Thank you, interesting article. Strong woman.
Hollie_Louise
06-01-2014
Just watching The Wright Stuff and Annabel Giles (I think that's her last name) said she was on benefits before I'm A Celebrity. I doubt it's an uncommon thing for celebrities of the past to be on them
Revolve
06-01-2014
People live within their means at the time and when the supply dries up the money set aside runs out fast. She's probably paid plenty of tax in over the years and is entitled to claim benefits if she needs to. She'll lose out when she gets paid from BB anyway because I think you can only claim if you have under a certain amount. She doesn't have any kids so why should she have stashed hundreds of thousands away in her bank account when she could drop dead today?
lightblues
06-01-2014
Originally Posted by sandy50:
“I wonder if they still get royalties from their music - it wouldn't be enough to live off, but i'd imagine they do...perhaps a few hundred a year - particulary as Coleen has been on tv for years now, and perhaps she may have generated renewed interest in The Nolans music ,and now Linda may increase sales a bit more perhaps.

It's a thought. I know people who get couple of hundred quid a year in Royalties for their music and they're nowhere near as known as the Nolans were in their day or remotely as successful as they were .”

She would receive virtually nothing in royalties over the last 20years (loose change)as the Nolan's were finished as a chart act by the end of the eighties and they didn't write the songs , plus the contract they signed in the seventies would've given the girls a ridiculously low percentage of record sales (most acts were screwed over back then), the recent tour and DVD may have helped a bit. But the tour was 3 years ago and she wouldn't have earnt more than her current CBB gig, if she she and her sisters struck a good deal with the DVD she could have made a bit from that , but again after the Nolan die hard fans have bought it there's nothing left to sell and any money earnt would eventually go , she still has to pay her taxes don't forget , ... No wonder they were planning another tour before Bernies cancer returned.
TardisSteve
06-01-2014
Originally Posted by SillyBillyGoat:
“Anyone who thinks it's simply that easy to "go out and get a job" just like that is utterly deluded.”

your right it isn't as easy as that, there are a shortage of jobs in this country
Scarlett Berry
06-01-2014
Originally Posted by schemedug:
“Everyone acting all emotional at Nolan's "brave" admission that she is broke and on benefits makes me sick. She's had her 15mins of fame and has obviously pissed the money up the wall... And ohhhh so you're on benefits and thank god CBB has come along?? So... You can't just go out and get a job like everyone else has to?? Or is that too beneath you?

So now she's got a space on this show (uh why) so we can all fund her debt problems??

Fair enough they're all in it for the money in some respect but her pitiful benefits reference really was scraping the barrel”

Eveyone on this board is entitled to share their opinions, but dear God this is one of the nastiest, mean spirited attacks on a housemate that I have read. Totally OTT and who the hell informed you that "we" are funding her debt problem" Moreover I see nothing wrong in Linda claming what she is entitled to. Any person with a modicum of ambition or decency genuinely doesn't like to draw benefits. OP it seems to me you are bitter about those who find themselves in the unfortunate position in having to do so, just be honest and say so and don't use your grievences to bash Linda . Also no need to be so rude and address her as Nolan.
big_brother
06-01-2014
Originally Posted by sandy50:
“she was on benefits for a year wasn't she - she's not now - she had breast cancer, she lost her husband and her sister,, and there may be more life circumstances that happened that i've left out, or we don't know about - Why shouldn't she be entitled to claim something when the chips are down and she's been in need - i'm sure she filled in forms same as anyone else - I wouldn't bash her for this, there's no point - she hopefully will get some work after this and not need to claim in the near future. Some people need a break, life can dish up some tough cards and mean they have to make tougher choices.”

I agree with you
ForGodsSake
06-01-2014
Originally Posted by Crawley Cutie:
“Linda would have paid into the system, during her earning years - therefore, why should people query her entitlement to benefit ??

As a celebrity, with previous earning power - her claim would have been thoroughly checked.

There should be more concern regarding the army of women, who treat it as a life style choice . Those, who have never paid in - yet, procreate repeatedly at the tax payer's expense.”

This is what gets me.
Linda will have paid tax at a higher rate for the years of the Nolans popularity. Why shouldn't she benefit from that now? It isn't as if she's never paid a penny in........
Penny Crayon
06-01-2014
Originally Posted by Odette Valmont:
“Well that's your view I suppose, I can't change that.

Personally, I don't think somebody should be able to spend a load of cash, then immediately start claiming benefits. To me, as a taxpayer, using the welfare system in that way is offensive.”

Linda made her TV debut when she was just 15 years old and has worked continuously since then. That equates to about 40 years of paying taxes. I don't begrudge someone who has worked hard all their life drawing benefits after illness and bereavement has left them on hard times.

How many years have you paid into the system? If you ever have the misfortune or bad luck to hit hard times I take it 'as a tax payer' you'll feel justified in claiming a little bit back - just like Linda.
ForGodsSake
06-01-2014
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“Linda made her TV debut when she was just 15 years old and has worked continuously since then. That equates to about 40 years of paying taxes. I don't begrudge someone who has worked hard all their life drawing benefits after illness and bereavement has left them on hard times.

How many years have you paid into the system? If you ever have the misfortune or bad luck to hit hard times I take it 'as a tax payer' you'll feel justified in claiming a little bit back - just like Linda.”

Well said.
shackfan
06-01-2014
Originally Posted by schemedug:
“Everyone acting all emotional at Nolan's "brave" admission that she is broke and on benefits makes me sick. She's had her 15mins of fame and has obviously pissed the money up the wall... And ohhhh so you're on benefits and thank god CBB has come along?? So... You can't just go out and get a job like everyone else has to?? Or is that too beneath you?

So now she's got a space on this show (uh why) so we can all fund her debt problems??

Fair enough they're all in it for the money in some respect but her pitiful benefits reference really was scraping the barrel”

Oooh, look at you all high and mighty. Let's hope you aren't finding yourself in her position at any time. You won't get any bloody sympathy here.
ForGodsSake
06-01-2014
Originally Posted by shackfan:
“Oooh, look at you all high and mighty. Let's hope you aren't finding yourself in her position at any time. You won't get any bloody sympathy here.”

They are looking for attention, methinks.
shackfan
06-01-2014
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“Linda made her TV debut when she was just 15 years old and has worked continuously since then. That equates to about 40 years of paying taxes. I don't begrudge someone who has worked hard all their life drawing benefits after illness and bereavement has left them on hard times.

How many years have you paid into the system? If you ever have the misfortune or bad luck to hit hard times I take it 'as a tax payer' you'll feel justified in claiming a little bit back - just like Linda.”

And let's face it, they probably didn't write their songs and any performance money had to be split several ways, and they weren't exactly the Posh Spices of the pop world.
daisiesfan
06-01-2014
The amount of tax she will have paid into the system over the years, I would say she is more than entitled to claim benefits. What a mean spirited thread. I hope the OP never finds themselves in a difficult time.
Penny Crayon
06-01-2014
Originally Posted by ForGodsSake:
“They are looking for attention, methinks. ”

No ........they quite simply have an irrational hatred of Linda Nolan or the Nolan's in general. Whilst I accept that they're not everyone's cup of tea this posters horrible and ill informed comments are bordering on obsession.
jeanoj
06-01-2014
Originally Posted by schemedug:
“Everyone acting all emotional at Nolan's "brave" admission that she is broke and on benefits makes me sick. She's had her 15mins of fame and has obviously pissed the money up the wall... And ohhhh so you're on benefits and thank god CBB has come along?? So... You can't just go out and get a job like everyone else has to?? Or is that too beneath you?

So now she's got a space on this show (uh why) so we can all fund her debt problems??

Fair enough they're all in it for the money in some respect but her pitiful benefits reference really was scraping the barrel”

What a nasty, spiteful post. There, but for the grace of God etc. etc.
DiamondDoll
06-01-2014
Please allow me to say this.

Linda Nolan is certainly not my cup of tea and I reserve the right to comment on her behaviour.

I cannot feel anything other than sympathy for her recent situation and there but for the grace of God go any of us.

Man's inhumanity to man and all that.
DiamondDoll
06-01-2014
Originally Posted by jeanoj:
“What a nasty, spiteful post. There, but for the grace of God etc. etc.”

Snap.
marg89
06-01-2014
Originally Posted by sandy50:
“she was on benefits for a year wasn't she - she's not now - she had breast cancer, she lost her husband and her sister,, and there may be more life circumstances that happened that i've left out, or we don't know about - Why shouldn't she be entitled to claim something when the chips are down and she's been in need - i'm sure she filled in forms same as anyone else - I wouldn't bash her for this, there's no point - she hopefully will get some work after this and not need to claim in the near future. Some people need a break, life can dish up some tough cards and mean they have to make tougher choices.”

Well Said. The benefits are there for that very reason, i'm sure when she was at the top she paid plenty into the system.
SegaGamer
06-01-2014
I didn't feel sorry for her. I have been on benefits a few times and nobody felt sorry for me, people looked down on me for being on benefits. Its sad that people feel they are better people than those on benefits, it's something i find absolutely ridiculous.

Most people end up on benefits at least one time in their lives, it's hardly a reason to feel sorry for them, but people shouldn't look down on them either.

It's not like Linda Nolan hasn't had time to find a job though, it must of hit her at some point that she was running out of money. There is no reason why she couldn't have got a job like the rest of us in the last 10 years.
HonestLee
06-01-2014
Originally Posted by lightblues:
“She would receive virtually nothing in royalties over the last 20years (loose change)as the Nolan's were finished as a chart act by the end of the eighties and they didn't write the songs , plus the contract they signed in the seventies would've given the girls a ridiculously low percentage of record sales (most acts were screwed over back then), the recent tour and DVD may have helped a bit. But the tour was 3 years ago and she wouldn't have earnt more than her current CBB gig, if she she and her sisters struck a good deal with the DVD she could have made a bit from that , but again after the Nolan die hard fans have bought it there's nothing left to sell and any money earnt would eventually go , she still has to pay her taxes don't forget , ... No wonder they were planning another tour before Bernies cancer returned.”

spot on Lightblues..

I guarantee she would've earned barely a bean from The Nolans, people think you're on the radio you must be minted but don't realise the way it works, no authorship=no royalties.

Even harder when you think of the hours spent on the road peddling that bloody song, living out of a suitcase, the uncomfortable hotel beds, it isn't remotely glamorous away from the tv screen, and all for nothing financially

Even when you wrote it the money from record contracts goes down the sink before you even get it, EVERYONE from promotion, studios, managers 20%, agents, the list is endless - they ALL get paid from your pot and a great deal of the time even before you

Only by paying the label back in full in sales can you expect anything and even that's minimal unless you're a Bowie etc. selling zillions

We have a strange way of treating those who 'appeared' to do well once in this country, there's almost a leprosy attached to the other side of fame
Penny Crayon
06-01-2014
Originally Posted by SegaGamer:
“I didn't feel sorry for her. I have been on benefits a few times and nobody felt sorry for me, people looked down on me for being on benefits. Its sad that people feel they are better people than those on benefits, it's something i find absolutely ridiculous.

Most people end up on benefits at least one time in their lives, it's hardly a reason to feel sorry for them, but people shouldn't look down on them either.

It's not like Linda Nolan hasn't had time to find a job though, it must of hit her at some point that she was running out of money. There is no reason why she couldn't have got a job like the rest of us in the last 10 years.”


Well in 2005 she was diagnosed with breast cancer and had long, gruelling treatment before being given the all clear. During that time her husband died of skin cancer so her life has been a bit difficult in the last ten years really. She's also lost her mother and a sister to breast cancer. Whilst I know that many other 'ordinary' people have difficult lives too it really doesn't prevent me from having a bit of sympathy for her too even though she's a 'Nolan'.

I would have thought all these things can't have been easy on her psychological state .......perhaps like the rest of us - it hasn't been that easy to find a job in the past ten years.
ForGodsSake
06-01-2014
I dont feel sympathy for Linda but I do feel empathy.
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