Agreed, They were right to point out "some viewers may find this offensive", but IMO, he did not use offensive language, he has religious beliefs and is entitled to them, Luisa was naïve broaching the subject, WTH did she expect!!

One of the reasons archaic views such as his persist is because open dialogue about topics like homosexuality is disparaged.


i like that answer SpiritedAway

Lionel found Jasmine's comments offensive, and the BB party line is to warn a HM who says something that could offend the GBP or another HM. Where was her warning?

I don't agree with Evander's views at all. They're hateful, offensive and ill-reasoned, to say the least. that said, I believe it should then fall to us as viewers to watch it and vote accordingly (if you vote at all that is)

Ofcom-botherers will slowly kill BB. They've started already.

I think the part where he compared it to being disabled probably was what was bad about it tbh

Of course you can. Its not a hate crime to hold the view that homsexuality is a choice. Its not like you can scientifically prove what evander says is wrong. People can be gay, then they can go straight. look at tom robinson.

Anyone expressing that black people aren't 'normal' would have been thrown out. What's the difference? The outcry on here when Jim Davidson was going in...the racist ******** etc

Yes, I thought it was pretty fair. Just a warning, it's not like he got kicked out. Seems to be standard procedure for anything that could be construed as offensive.

yeah i should of asked for a poll

[quote=peterstone;70652790]They were wrong[/QUOTE


They certainly were. It is no crime to express an opinion.

I agree with this. And a "you can't say it warning" reinforces another belief of people with such bizarre views - that they are silenced by a PC mafia from telling "the truth".
It would have been better if the house as a whole had debated it and torn his opinion to shreds. It would have been interesting to see if people like Davidson would have admitted they don't have much time for pro-gay campaigners but still been willing to tell Holyfield he was talking rubbish on the ridiculous belief that gay people can be "changed".

I think we can tell what the result would be.

I mean it could've got out of hand with all the other housemates an been far worse. It's more the fact he brought the disabled into it that was wrong not the fact he had the opinion.

But it's offensive to say to a gay person (such as myself) that it's a choice. Because I know that it's not. As do all other gay people. I don't understand it, why do some people think that one day I woke up and decided I wanted to be gay? I never made a choice; I was dealt and hand and now I'm playing it. If there are straight people out there that can't accept that then they need to keep that opinion to themselves. Because it IS offensive.

True ,just because you're gay doesn't necessary mean you have to stay that way.i think that was the point he was trying to make .

You'd think so in a civilised world but there are primitives around who feel that silencing other people is the way forward. Silence makes htem feel good about themselves. They must be very insecure.

You cant blame someone for thinking it can be fixed when health professionals claim otherwise, and make a good living out of it.

I cant imagine that the other 23 hours and 55 minutes were even more offensive so why show it?


If Luissa had felt able to discuss it freely it is possible that he may have changed his mind.

If only he had said bisexuals have a choice, he would be in the clear.

Some people enjoy being told what to think and enjoy telling others even more!

That's what BB US does although perhaps I shouldn't wield that as an example given last season was such a deplorable, inhumane mess.

That said, none of the people in the BB house, celebrity or civilian series, are authority figures or experts on anything. Sensational personalities beside, they're just people of average (some below average) intelligence. I know not to waste my offense on some random schmucks squatting on a tv set for money and fame. However, there was a time when reality tv exposed sheltered individuals, viewers and active participants alike, to people and ideas they would not have otherwise encountered. It's the upside to serious discussions like the one Luisa and Evander were engaged in. If given the opportunity, there's a possibility she could have changed his and quite a few other viewers perception. But we'll never know now.

He didn't even say he believed it was a choice. He equated it to someone being born with a disability and should be offered corrective surgery. It was offensive whatever way you look at it. I think it was because he said it in a measured and quiet way it seemed less than it was.

That said I think the warning system is a bit silly. I think it is important that someone brought to his notice that what he was saying was, in my opinion, offensive to two different sections of the community but that's all that is needed.

I see that from this thread............

Funny how the only people who complain about "political correctness gone mad" are heterosexual, white and able-bodied, but I digress...

Big Brother were perfectly right to challenge Evander's comments. If he's allowed an opinion, so are they.

Now don't conflate his being given a warning with him being told that he's wrong and can't believe what he believes. That's not what happened.

He expressed his view that homosexuality is a) a choice and b) akin to a disability that can c) be "fixed". Big Brother pulled him up and said that this was a little offensive (which it is). "Opinions" (even those based on religion) aren't immune from being challenged.

He's still free to believe it, say it or turn it into a showtune, just not in Big Brother's house. Same as how if you came into my house and shouted out something bigoted I can tell you to stop or leave.

That's not impinging on free speech, censoring people or "silencing" them. It's about respect, politeness and decorum.

"challenged" is absolutely fine, and when these situations arise on BB I would much rather they went down that route, SILENCED is another matter!!

Are you saying you can see us all ?

DONT show it if it is offensive for the viewers. Do'h