He's just a prehistoric, self-obsessed bore who thinks women should still be parading about like Lady Mary from Downton Abbey.
Zzzzzz
Zzzzzz
Lionel Blair is a misogynistic bellend
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Originally Posted by Odette Valmont:
“He's just a prehistoric, self-obsessed bore who thinks women should still be parading about like Lady Mary from Downton Abbey.
Zzzzzz”
“He's just a prehistoric, self-obsessed bore who thinks women should still be parading about like Lady Mary from Downton Abbey.
Zzzzzz”
How mature.
Originally Posted by Odette Valmont:
“He's just a prehistoric, self-obsessed bore who thinks women should still be parading about like Lady Mary from Downton Abbey.
Zzzzzz”
“He's just a prehistoric, self-obsessed bore who thinks women should still be parading about like Lady Mary from Downton Abbey.
Zzzzzz”
Now that is just plain rude.
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“How mature.”
“How mature.”
Originally Posted by Scarlett Berry:
“Now that is just plain rude.”
“Now that is just plain rude.”
Oh, come on it's not that bad! Worse has been said about him. The OP called him a misogynistic bellend, and told him to f*** off... Penny it seems like you're attacking my posts constantly
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“Of course he's not of limited talent.......his career spans many decades and he was a successful and well paid performer. He is now in his eighties and more or less retired ............he was invited onto CBB for a presumably large fee. He'd have been mad to turn it down. I don't think for one minute he's desperate to keep his name in lights. I think this will simply make his retirement a little more comfortable.”
“Of course he's not of limited talent.......his career spans many decades and he was a successful and well paid performer. He is now in his eighties and more or less retired ............he was invited onto CBB for a presumably large fee. He'd have been mad to turn it down. I don't think for one minute he's desperate to keep his name in lights. I think this will simply make his retirement a little more comfortable.”
I agree and can't think why anyone would have a problem with this.
Originally Posted by Odette Valmont:
“Oh, come on it's not that bad! Worse has been said about him. The OP called him a misogynistic bellend, and told him to f*** off... Penny it seems like you're attacking my posts constantly”
“Oh, come on it's not that bad! Worse has been said about him. The OP called him a misogynistic bellend, and told him to f*** off... Penny it seems like you're attacking my posts constantly
”
True ...............you do post some utter c*ap IMO - perhaps that's why.
what surprised me about Lionel is that he's smoking ! I mean he's still on the fags , er ... no that doesn't right either .
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“Of course he's not of limited talent.......his career spans many decades and he was a successful and well paid performer. He is now in his eighties and more or less retired ............he was invited onto CBB for a presumably large fee. He'd have been mad to turn it down. I don't think for one minute he's desperate to keep his name in lights. I think this will simply make his retirement a little more comfortable.”
“Of course he's not of limited talent.......his career spans many decades and he was a successful and well paid performer. He is now in his eighties and more or less retired ............he was invited onto CBB for a presumably large fee. He'd have been mad to turn it down. I don't think for one minute he's desperate to keep his name in lights. I think this will simply make his retirement a little more comfortable.”
Well said. I'm not an elder lemon (not yet) but have no problem interacting with older folk. I am delighted to see Lionel in the house, he has as much right to be there as the younger participants. I would go so far as to say, I would find him WAY more interestging than Jasmine or minging Dappy.
Originally Posted by Odette Valmont:
“He's just a prehistoric, self-obsessed bore who thinks women should still be parading about like Lady Mary from Downton Abbey.
Zzzzzz”
“He's just a prehistoric, self-obsessed bore who thinks women should still be parading about like Lady Mary from Downton Abbey.
Zzzzzz”
Do you really want to hear some one talk like that? It does sound so undignified.
Originally Posted by Virgil Tracy:
“what surprised me about Lionel is that he's smoking ! I mean he's still on the fags , er ... no that doesn't right either .”
“what surprised me about Lionel is that he's smoking ! I mean he's still on the fags , er ... no that doesn't right either .”
I was surprised at that too. He has always seemed so very fit and light on his toes - his career has been very physical .......I'm surprised his lungs are up to it.
Originally Posted by Sun Tzu.:
“Do you really want to hear some one talk like that? It does sound so undignified.”
“Do you really want to hear some one talk like that? It does sound so undignified.”
No I wouldn't, but I wouldn't say "that's no way for a girl to speak", as I know too well that sometimes girls can be much worse than boys in the way they speak.
Personally, I would just judge them for what they are (an undignified slapper) and I certainly wouldn't work myself up over it. He looked like he was about to keel over and die when she came out with what she did. I'm sure he has heard much worse in his time.
Originally Posted by Odette Valmont:
“No I wouldn't, but I wouldn't say "that's no way for a girl to speak", as I know too well that sometimes girls can be much worse than boys in the way they speak.
Personally, I would just judge them for what they are (an undignified slapper) and I certainly wouldn't work myself up over it. He looked like he was about to keel over and die when she came out with what she did. I'm sure he has heard much worse in his time.”
“No I wouldn't, but I wouldn't say "that's no way for a girl to speak", as I know too well that sometimes girls can be much worse than boys in the way they speak.
Personally, I would just judge them for what they are (an undignified slapper) and I certainly wouldn't work myself up over it. He looked like he was about to keel over and die when she came out with what she did. I'm sure he has heard much worse in his time.”
But you have to remember Lionel is in his 80s. Girls in his day probably didn't get on like that. I was just so cringing for him to be sat in that position and listen to that.
Originally Posted by Virgil Tracy:
“what surprised me about Lionel is that he's smoking ! I mean he's still on the fags , er ... no that doesn't right either .”
“what surprised me about Lionel is that he's smoking ! I mean he's still on the fags , er ... no that doesn't right either .”
Why? Is it illegal now?
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“Of course he's not of limited talent.......his career spans many decades and he was a successful and well paid performer. He is now in his eighties and more or less retired ............he was invited onto CBB for a presumably large fee. He'd have been mad to turn it down. I don't think for one minute he's desperate to keep his name in lights. I think this will simply make his retirement a little more comfortable.”
“Of course he's not of limited talent.......his career spans many decades and he was a successful and well paid performer. He is now in his eighties and more or less retired ............he was invited onto CBB for a presumably large fee. He'd have been mad to turn it down. I don't think for one minute he's desperate to keep his name in lights. I think this will simply make his retirement a little more comfortable.”
Exactly. I've never cared much for him but to say he's of limited talent is quite
Originally Posted by Sun Tzu.:
“But you have to remember Lionel is in his 80s. Girls in his day probably didn't get on like that. I was just so cringing for him to be sat in that position and listen to that.”
“But you have to remember Lionel is in his 80s. Girls in his day probably didn't get on like that. I was just so cringing for him to be sat in that position and listen to that.”
How many of us know women who do speak like her in a gathering of mixed age strangers? That's was the first time I'd ever heard a woman speak the way she did. I don't live under a rock either.
Originally Posted by MACTOWIN:
“It is ok for Lionel to discuss the size of mens private parts though. Oh dear.”
“It is ok for Lionel to discuss the size of mens private parts though. Oh dear.”
Yes. Did it offend you then?
Originally Posted by MACTOWIN:
“It is ok for Lionel to discuss the size of mens private parts though. Oh dear.”
“It is ok for Lionel to discuss the size of mens private parts though. Oh dear.”
I agree with that. It was very hypocritical, but he just had to name drop as usual.
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“I was surprised at that too. He has always seemed so very fit and light on his toes - his career has been very physical .......I'm surprised his lungs are up to it.”
“I was surprised at that too. He has always seemed so very fit and light on his toes - his career has been very physical .......I'm surprised his lungs are up to it.”
Many dancers live on fags and claim the exercise keeps their lungs in better shape than one would expect
Originally Posted by Odette Valmont:
“He's just a prehistoric, self-obsessed bore who thinks women should still be parading about like Lady Mary from Downton Abbey.
Zzzzzz”
“He's just a prehistoric, self-obsessed bore who thinks women should still be parading about like Lady Mary from Downton Abbey.
Zzzzzz”
No I don't think so.
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“I agree with that. It was very hypocritical, but he just had to name drop as usual.”
“I agree with that. It was very hypocritical, but he just had to name drop as usual.”
I agree, I'm so sick of Lionel name dropping. He is so desperate to be seen as a legend, it's comical!
The replies to this thread are weird and it's a bit (very) scary that a lot of you are actually agreeing with him that women should basically be expected to keep their mouths shut and be embarrassed at any drunken crudeness.
Jasmine was crude, ill-mannered, maybe insensitive to the people around her, but we all saw how smashed she was, come on. And as an old guy, Lionel might have been right to take issue with the way she spoke and acted - but his diary room scene very very very clearly used waaaay outdated specifically gendered language and in my opinion they're views that should not be shown on TV coming from a guy with such a nice-guy image without any consequence whatsoever (his just-looking-out-for-you tone made it all the worse). Maybe my thread title was a bit dramatic
Jasmine was crude, ill-mannered, maybe insensitive to the people around her, but we all saw how smashed she was, come on. And as an old guy, Lionel might have been right to take issue with the way she spoke and acted - but his diary room scene very very very clearly used waaaay outdated specifically gendered language and in my opinion they're views that should not be shown on TV coming from a guy with such a nice-guy image without any consequence whatsoever (his just-looking-out-for-you tone made it all the worse). Maybe my thread title was a bit dramatic
Originally Posted by ForGodsSake:
“He's married - most mysogynists wouldnt even marry.
he's just from another generation thats all.”
“He's married - most mysogynists wouldnt even marry.
he's just from another generation thats all.”
Jim Davidson is the biggest misogynist out there - and he's been married 5 times.
Originally Posted by dylzo:
“The replies to this thread are weird and it's a bit (very) scary that a lot of you are actually agreeing with him that women should basically be expected to keep their mouths shut and be embarrassed at any drunken crudeness.
Jasmine was crude, ill-mannered, maybe insensitive to the people around her, but we all saw how smashed she was, come on. And as an old guy, Lionel might have been right to take issue with the way she spoke and acted - but his diary room scene very very very clearly used waaaay outdated specifically gendered language and in my opinion they're views that should not be shown on TV coming from a guy with such a nice-guy image without any consequence whatsoever (his just-looking-out-for-you tone made it all the worse). Maybe my thread title was a bit dramatic”
“The replies to this thread are weird and it's a bit (very) scary that a lot of you are actually agreeing with him that women should basically be expected to keep their mouths shut and be embarrassed at any drunken crudeness.
Jasmine was crude, ill-mannered, maybe insensitive to the people around her, but we all saw how smashed she was, come on. And as an old guy, Lionel might have been right to take issue with the way she spoke and acted - but his diary room scene very very very clearly used waaaay outdated specifically gendered language and in my opinion they're views that should not be shown on TV coming from a guy with such a nice-guy image without any consequence whatsoever (his just-looking-out-for-you tone made it all the worse). Maybe my thread title was a bit dramatic
”
I think you've really got the wrong end of the stick. I think a lot of people find it peurile, shocking and disrespectful that anyone at all can sit spouting filth like that in front of an old man (or anyone) within a few hours of meeting them, Doesn't matter whether it be male or female.
The fact that he said 'young lady' or something like that is simply a stick people are using to bash him with.
Why be offensive about a man who thinks it is not nice for a lady (a term which hardly applies to trashy Jasmine) to have such a filthy mouth. His generation had more of an idea of polite conversation.
Originally Posted by The Prumeister:
“Jim Davidson is the biggest misogynist out there - and he's been married 5 times.”
“Jim Davidson is the biggest misogynist out there - and he's been married 5 times.”
Maybe the biggest sexist but i doubt a mysogynist.
They dont tend to marry.
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