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Those stupid yanks are no better with their Duck Dynasty hysteria, that just proved that freedom of speech is a myth over there, a delusion they all still suffer from
A supposed civilised country with no universal healthcare, everyone owns an assault rifle to shoot their neighbour with and most still telepathically send their daily thoughts to a magical sky wizard. Ha, what a joke |
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Those stupid yanks are no better with their Duck Dynasty hysteria, that just proved that freedom of speech is a myth over there, a delusion they all still suffer from
A supposed civilised country with no universal healthcare, everyone owns an assault rifle to shoot their neighbour with and most still telepathically send their daily thoughts to a magical sky wizard. Ha, what a joke
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Can you still use the word 'gay' to mean that you're happy? Or if you said to someone 'Your certainly gay today', would that person have the right to be offended. Then, would I have the right to be offended if the said person then turned around and asked (in a snarly way) 'what was I implying' (if the said person wasn't gay that is). It's a nightmare.
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The article now has a couple of polls attached to it and the closing arguement changed. The comments are kind of staggering.
Evander Holyfield told a housemate on "UK Celebrity Big Brother" that being gay is no different than being handicapped ... because a doctor can fix both ... and was immediately SCOLDED like a child by "BB" producers. Holyfield made the comments Sunday -- during his first week in the BB house -- when reality star Luisa Zissman asked him if there were any gay boxers in the sport. Holyfield -- a deeply religious Christian --cited the bible and said homosexuality is NOT a choice ... but rather something like a "handicap" ... something doctors can fix. Zissman respectfully disagreed with Evander ... and it seemed the two were ready to move on with their lives ... when Evander was taken to a private room, where producers RIPPED him for expressing his beliefs. In fact, "BB" producers called Evander's comments "inappropriate" because they "aren't the views that are held by a large section of society." Holyfield says he understood that his comments could be considered offensive ... but never apologizes. This whole situation reminds us why we revolted against England ... so we could have the freedom to express our religious and other beliefs ... no matter how offensive. As bad as Evander is .. the show is being RIDICULOUS. Didn't they they learn anything from the A&E/"Duck Dynasty" debacle?? Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2014/01/05/evande...#ixzz2pbJ2e044 |
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TMZ is like a steaming turd in the world of gutter press, and should be treated with the same level of contempt.
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The article now has a couple of polls attached to it and the closing arguement changed. The comments are kind of staggering.
Evander Holyfield told a housemate on "UK Celebrity Big Brother" that being gay is no different than being handicapped ... because a doctor can fix both ... and was immediately SCOLDED like a child by "BB" producers. Holyfield made the comments Sunday -- during his first week in the BB house -- when reality star Luisa Zissman asked him if there were any gay boxers in the sport. Holyfield -- a deeply religious Christian --cited the bible and said homosexuality is NOT a choice ... but rather something like a "handicap" ... something doctors can fix. Zissman respectfully disagreed with Evander ... and it seemed the two were ready to move on with their lives ... when Evander was taken to a private room, where producers RIPPED him for expressing his beliefs. In fact, "BB" producers called Evander's comments "inappropriate" because they "aren't the views that are held by a large section of society." Holyfield says he understood that his comments could be considered offensive ... but never apologizes. This whole situation reminds us why we revolted against England ... so we could have the freedom to express our religious and other beliefs ... no matter how offensive. As bad as Evander is .. the show is being RIDICULOUS. Didn't they they learn anything from the A&E/"Duck Dynasty" debacle?? Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2014/01/05/evande...#ixzz2pbJ2e044 I mean they frequently ask questions in polls like, "who would you rather (get with)", and then show pictures of two celebrities, etc. The tone of the website is paralleled within the comments which are mostly younger people, or immature people attempting to be outrageous for the sake of causing a reaction or just to be cool in being outrageous, or whatever. Quote:
TMZ is like a steaming turd in the world of gutter press, and should be treated with the same level of contempt.
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Some of the comments are crazy so many people agreeing with Evander ..America aren't as accepting of gay people as much I really feel for gay guys in America who grow up there. There are people on the site who agree with most of us which is great.
And there are areas of america that are still consumed by the bible. Besides most of the negative comments are from hypocrits. Im not going to look past the first page of comments as it would make me angry. |
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Wow, some of those comments on that site. Judging by those comments, pretty sure the UK is more accepting of gay people than the US. On Twitter, everyone was against what he said (with people obviously saying he should have an opinion despite it being wrong).
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Just because you don't believe in homosexuality doesn't make you a homophobe. Welcome to your supporters, Evander. If I was him, and saw stuff like this, I would really wish I had kept my mouth shut.
Being gay is mental. Not sure if doctors can cure it but it's definitely a choice. I think the gay agenda is a joke. When their own, like Cynthia Nixon says that she CHOOSES to be a woman they turned on her so fast cause they know it's true. They don't want people to know the truth and that's a fact. I think it is a choice for most and only about 10 percent are truly born that way the other are just just trying something that they think will get them off more... yuck Satanist have convinced everyone that homosexuality is normal so most people dont take cure serious and even ridicule it. Good for Holyfield. I feel the same way he does..one day these butt humpers will realize they are a minority and no one cares anymore... also too gays should be put in prison with women and lesbians should be put in prison with men That'll fix 'em! I have known the gay community for 35 years and not one of them are "born gay" - they all admit it is a life choice. |
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"So tired of being forced to agree with the Gay agenda. Enough! I'm entitled to my own opinions.“ - every straight man, USA.
'Here come the limp wrist sissies illogically defending the spreading of buttcheeks (can that produce a kid?) and the spreading of AIDs' Really? Just, really? And that's just two of the positive rated comments. And there are worse. I do like the 'can that produce a kid?' line. Any girl should remember that should he ask for a BJ. He seems to feel very passionately about non-reproductive sex after all. |
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Those stupid yanks are no better with their Duck Dynasty hysteria, that just proved that freedom of speech is a myth over there, a delusion they all still suffer from
A supposed civilised country with no universal healthcare, everyone owns an assault rifle to shoot their neighbour with and most still telepathically send their daily thoughts to a magical sky wizard. Ha, what a joke |
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TMZ is basically the dailystar of the US (probably lesser than the dailystar), it's not to be taken seriously or given any credit whatsoever. It's exploitative trash.
I mean they frequently ask questions in polls like, "who would you rather (get with)", and then show pictures of two celebrities, etc. The tone of the website is paralleled within the comments which are mostly younger people, or immature people attempting to be outrageous for the sake of causing a reaction or just to be cool in being outrageous, or whatever. |
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Aversion therapy I imagine - or chemical castration like they did with Alan Turing (recently pardoned)...
like years ago, when gay people were given electric shocks while watching gay porn, so that they associated gay porn with bad feelings, therefore turning to 'the right side'.It didn't work...
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They always seem to start spouting about the truth this and the truth that, like gay people can't handle the truth about themselves.
But if there's someone who shouldn't be bringing truth and facts into this then surely it's a religious person where facts and truth pretty much puts all their beliefs into question. It's rather funny they take that route. |
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Yeah thats true, some of the comments are just terrible.
I just found a video on youtube saying was Evander set up. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QII75lSARBc Thanks for the link. I wonder? Quote:
They always seem to start spouting about the truth this and the truth that, like gay people can't handle the truth about themselves.
But if there's someone who shouldn't be bringing truth and facts into this then surely it's a religious person where facts and truth pretty much puts all their beliefs into question. It's rather funny they take that route. One question which I haven't seen asked in this thread. Are Gay people afforded the same freedom of speech/opinion in America? |
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Almost anything that is deemed controversial end up on TMZ.
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Perez Hilton is talking about it too seems it's gone worldwide to America.
http://perezhilton.com/fitperez/2014....fiuneI02.dpbs |
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They kept it in because they knew it would get publicity and that is great for Big Brother. But they weren't that offended by it as they would not have showed it otherwise.
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This whole situation reminds us why we revolted against England ... so we could have the freedom to express our religious and other beliefs ... no matter how offensive.
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Wow, some of those comments on that site. Judging by those comments, pretty sure the UK is more accepting of gay people than the US. On Twitter, everyone was against what he said (with people obviously saying he should have an opinion despite it being wrong).
I feel sorry for him. He tried repeatedly to change the subject but she kept on needling him to explain his thoughts. She should have been warned as well, in my opinion as she was directly responsible for the whole situation. |
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He has managed to insult 2 different groups of people. Disabled people may not want to be 'fixed' and some cannot be 'fixed' by a doctor, it is insulting to say that disability is something that should be fixed or put right, as is homosexuality.
He is a very narrow minded person, I liked him, but his ignorance over both groups of people has left me disliking his beliefs. |
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I feel sorry for him. He tried repeatedly to change the subject but she kept on needling him to explain his thoughts. She should have been warned as well, in my opinion as she was directly responsible for the whole situation.
She was clearly trying to get him to shutup before he put his foot any further in his mouth. |
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Makes me wonder if Luisa knew what response she would get when she went down the whole route of asking about gay sports people. Was it a plan by her or just something that happened?
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Makes me wonder if Luisa knew what response she would get when she went down the whole route of asking about gay sports people. Was it a plan by her or just something that happened?
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Makes me wonder if Luisa knew what response she would get when she went down the whole route of asking about gay sports people. Was it a plan by her or just something that happened?
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like years ago, when gay people were given electric shocks while watching gay porn, so that they associated gay porn with bad feelings, therefore turning to 'the right side'.