I was shocked because I would have expected the majority of people to be against what he said. In this country at least.

Don't be fooled; if I were to listen only to the media, whether that be the TV, radio or read the papers, I would come away thinking that everyone or almost everyone was excepting of homosexuality; in fact when bb reprimanded Evander, they more or less said that, but that's not true in my day to day life and the people I work with. It's more a case that people do not or are frightened to express their opinions; much the same as it is with racist views.

That's your day to day life, that comes down to the people you associate yourself with. None of my friends, work colleagues or close family members share your views.

No. I think its because people are too easily offended these days. What does it actually matter to anyone what an ageing American boxer thinks? His views are outdated, but expressing them isn't harming anyone, only those who choose to be offended. He is in a minority of people who are sadly not educated enough to understand we are all individuals, all different, and nobody is better than anyone else so has no right to judge.

Fair enough, that's the circles you mix with I suppose.
From what I've experienced, most people are accepting and tolerant. I have experienced some negativity but the majority of the time for me it has not been the case.

I'm sure most of those offended aren't losing any sleep over it, any I'm sure they'd agree he isn't harming anyone. However, if someone is offended by the way he phrased what he was trying to say then they have every right to be. Unfortunately it's not always easy to simply choose whether someone offends you or not. Their words or actions touch a nerve and people can't help but be upset by them.

He is right about one thingh....anyone who enters this country should be warned to keep their opinions to themselves as you will be hated if you dont, you cant have an opinion in this country now, its so stupid.

I take offence at the Westboro Baptist church. Those people are physically standing at soldiers funerals causing distress to bereaved families. I take offence at seeing countless untalented individuals bathing in luxurious lifestyles while elsewhere in the world children are starving and riddled with disease. I take offence at people who loathe my country and all it stands for continuing to live here on my taxes, and attacking off duty soldiers in the streets with machetes and killing them.

But those are all other debates.

A few words on a reality show spoken by someone who is a little ignorant? Compared to everything else going on around us, what the hell does it really matter?

You can be ignorant about difference.

I never said it mattered, but the point is if someone is offended after hearing Evander say that, they have every right to be. We don't have a switch built in that we can turn off to ensure nothing we hear offends us. Unless people start to lie about stuff that offends them out of fear of being labelled PC, which is probably the case for most people already.

To be fair thats possibly true. I sometimes see gay rights parades and the MOBO awards and wonder how many people I could upset by organising a straight rights parade and an awards ceremony for music of white origin. I would be branded both a racist and a homophobe, yet the other way round, I happily sit and accept it, because the pc world we live in has double standards, don't you think?

Erm, did I say my views?

But when you air said views on national television you are harming people.

It wasn't just ignorance it was downright disgusting imho. I don't see how anybody could not be offended..the sentiment of what he is actually saying is really quite awful.

He said so in a one on one conversation in the BB bedroom, not during an interview on the David Letterman show......I think he may even have forgotten that every single thing in the house is being filmed and recorded.

Your first sentence has made the entire point.

When you air said views on television...

Evander Holyfield made an unwise comment out of ignorance. Channel 5 chose to air it. Ratings boost anyone? Think we are all blaming the wrong person here.

Funny for someone who got divorced not once but three times to say homosexuality is wrong 'because it says so in the Bible'. I'm pretty sure he didn't stone his ex-wives to death either. Not sure what his God would say about all this picking and chosing....

Seems to me Boy George is harping on the American theme a bit there. It's almost as if he's saying Holyfield is big and dumb like the country he comes from. How naughty, and of course terribly untrue.

True.

why is that so out of line? by picking up on that statement youre being offensive to disabled people because (to paraphrase) many of them are not curable, its not a choice for any of them, its just the way they were born so why would you be so offended at being compared to them? its his comment about fixing people that was offensive to both homosexuals & disabled people because it showed he believed them to be 'broken' and should be 'fixed' in order to solve the problem. i would guess that the vast majority of disabled people view themselves as 'normal', many cannot be cured and providing theyre not suffering, do not believe themselves in need of 'fixing' so are really not that different to homosexuals in their thoughts & abilities to lead a 'normal' fulfilling life.

why be so offended at the comparison rather than evander's desire to 'fix'?

I certainly don't know anyone that would agree with some of the stuff you've said in other threads.

Eh when you say "that's possibly true" what exactly are you referring to? Because nothing what you said there is relating to what you quoted. It just looks like another attempt to throw the term PC around only this time you've used some incredibly ridiculous examples to try and justify it.