When Evander is evicted they'll be hoping Jim Davidson says Gollywogs.
It's the modus operandi of the format now,look for something that can be ridden for column inches.

Suppose they had to air it so they wouldn't be accused of covering it up

Like they covered up Freezergate and Rylan and Mario popping out of the house, which only came to light when evicted housemates revealed it when they came out

It was the guy's own opinion, he wasn't saying it in a malicious way to anyone in the house

But then again it wouldn't be BB in the 5 era without them airing something controversial, as the forum is pretty much half dead as we can't watch 24/7 hence hardly anything to talk about for us as we have to rely on their very slow and spoonfed tweets

They thrive on negativity in the 5 era and are never happy unless they have the housemates at each others throats and indeed the forums as well

Besides didn't see much outrage out there when Dopey got his bits out for the camera

Accused by who? Nobody else heard it.

Presumably they would in the first instance, yes.

I am not sure why the OP and other are demanding that the producers conceal something that happened. Normally people get annoyed if something IS concealed, not that it was shown.

Evander broke the house rules. He got a warning. If he had failed to understand the rules, he does now.

Outrage from whom? We have had scores of examples of housemates getting naked over the years without it causing a fuss. It actually used to be a lot more common than it is now. In BB1 half the house were prancing round naked in the first couple of days. I really don't see why we should be asked to be outraged because we get a glimpse of someone's penis.

Yes they did. You surely don't think he was talking to himself? Luisa is perfectly at liberty to go on BOTS, or Couch Potatoes, and say "I didn't like it when Evander said that gay people were like handicapped people and should go to the doctor and get themselves fixed."

If that was her motive then why try to get him to stop saying something that could get him into trouble? It doesn't make any sense.

Good point OP, yet remember it took them ages to reprimand Conor for his disgusting rant about Deana, THAT was offensive yet they didn't give a cr@p!!

I don't think they're playing "a card" - that would be like suggesting the producers told Luisa to probe Evander about his views on sexuality.

I take these incidents for what they are, comments and opinions that come out of natural conversations and are, in this case, appropriately dealt with by C5. In my opinion, the conversation had to be shown (we do want the most interesting happenings of the day, don't we?) and Evander was right to be told his opinion could be offensive.

I think they could easily have shown the conversation and left the viewers to make up their own minds : it's the formal warning part that's controversial.

Must be the first in BB history that a HM has received a warning over their general opinions of society.

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I'm almost certain Conor was reprimanded on the same day as his rant. If I'm not mistaken, people on here were mainly angry that his punishment wasn't severe enough. As disgusting as it was, I think C5 handled it well, I don't think it was enough to warrant removal.

I agree that BB could simply cover controversial things up, but would we really want them to? There is always the possibility that they would emerge later anyway unless BB used a gagging clause on all housemates.


How does BB promote discrimination by challenging the likes of Evander or Jade Goody?

I doubt it in that case as they had Saskia in BB6 express just such a view in her VT! However if she had stated in a convo that she believed that people of other races were in some way inferior or had used what BB deemed racist language they would have at least warned her.

I don't know what you mean by 'her motive'. Once she is out of the house she is likely to be asked her opinion about other housemates, and this is an opinion she might well give. I am not sure I can ever remember people being being angry at BB for showing something that happened in the house before.

I can't remember the wording of all Scott's warnings, but I think at least one was along those lines.

That makes no sense.

jade's racism was directed to Shilpa directly. It was a personal attack on her.

Evaders comments were merely opinion, not targeted at any one particular house mate.

The two are very different and should be treated as so.

The video has even made it onto worldstarhiphop. Channel 5 are loving this.

They are certainly getting their money's-worth with the American housemates.

Right, lets put things straight...

Whether it's his private belief or not, he is on a show called Big Brother where cameras are recording 24 hours a day. He chose to say what he said.

Big Brother have nearly always picked up on and warned someone over any comment which might be deemed offensive to a minority. They are not playing any 'card'! I remember recently someone being picked up for a comment against gypsy's or travellers.

Evander can say what he wants but also someone has the right to come back at him and explain how an opinion like his is not accepted by the majority of society in this day and age.

He got warned for it, lets just get on with things and say what we think about him with our votes!

Never mind what's irksome to gays and christians and gay black christians, and the rights and wrongs of how the producers play it, I'm just annoyed about what it does to this board.

Agree.

I like your attitude

I agree they are different as far as intent goes. Evander wasn't being malicious, but he should have remembered the rules that he signed up to, and which he clearly recalled during his warning, when reminded by BB: "I forgot that thing". As I mentioned in a post yesterday in a thread that seems to have vanished, there are laws against hate-speech in this country and Holyfield's convo could possibly be seen to be breeching those. It could certainly see BB/C5 being investigated by Ofcom, who are bound to have had lots of complaint's over this.

Me too - how interesting it would have been to see some of the HMs' reactions and which of them would take on the ex-boxer in trying to knock down his nonsense. That would have been riveting viewing.
We know that Jim Davidson for instance was aware of Holyfield's religious outlook (Davidson referred to Holyfield when talking about a higher being supposedly guiding him away from cocaine etc) but surely even he might have disagreed with such an extreme view.
Much better than crap about pathetic Dappy's cock.

We were shown Luisa and Evander mid-conversation. Who knows how they came on to the subject? Anybody!

To be honest, as usual, it’s only the online fans who are blowing this out of proportion.

Evander said a really stupid and ignorant thing. Big Brother told him what he said was stupid and ignorant and asked him not to do it again.

What’s the big deal?

Well mostly the big deal is people online who think it’s fine to say stupid and ignorant things and to not be challenged about it.

The fact is the housemates are always getting warned about such things. Other housemates have already had one warning that haven’t been broadcast for example.

Evander’s was broadcast because it demonstrated a side of his character that we hadn’t seen before. Namely the stupid and ignorant side.

They would be doing a disservice if they didn't show it. The whole point of the show is to see peoples personalities and seeing the real them. What they believe and what they just generally like.