I'd generally prefer it if you didn't completely change what I actually wrote to something totally different that might suit your own purpose/ agenda/whatever a little better.

Kinda stifles debate when people do that.

Thanks.

Yet posts willing her to shower more etc are ignored . Evidence if needed of precisely why she is supported by many .
She was nasty and manipulative on the Apprentice and I disliked her from start to finish,but she has taken desperation for attention to a new level on BB.
Sucking a veritable strangers nipple and full on kissing another veritable stranger in a communal bath is hardly going to rocket her into the upper echelons of the business world ,unless she opens a sex emporium.

I remember her throwing one of the other women under the bus as well, though. One person had to do the cooking and Luisa (food industry entrepreneur - remember) maintained she couldn't cook and then laid the blame firmly at the door of the person who did a not so great job of creating the food product. Good contestant - certainly; though not brilliant by any stretch. Also, not a very likeable person.

And that voice........................

Oh yeah, I think I remember that task. She said she wasn't good with weighing ingredients and catering style food preparation, when she owns a cupcake shop and even if she only hung out there for a few minutes a day would know her way around some scales and a measuring jug

On a reality tv show (and let's all be honest that IS what the Apprentice is), especially that one, a certain degree of almost ruthless ambition is encouraged.

You say 'throw under the bus', I say 'was assertive enough to make sure she wasn't seen as the one doing the 'manual labour' as it were in the kitchen'. Very astute, and a wise move.
It's all very well coming out of a business reality show on tv and having random forums say how nice you were but on the Apprentice, 'nice' does not equate to success. Far from it. She was an excellent candidate, and she knows how to work both the 'room' and indeed her audience/ fellow contestants.

As for whether she is likable as a person, I've personally seen no evidence to suggest she is anything but. Even Jason in the apprentice genuinely liked her (yes even after she supposedly 'set out to destroy him')much to the chagrin of certain posters back on that forum who seemed to have some rather OTT disproportionate dislike for her.

I've seen these CBB and BB forums before. I knew as soon as she did anything deemed 'wrong' she'd be hammered for it on here.

I'd never heard of her before but from what I've seen so far I think she's ghastly!!

Not forgetting she then proceeded to give instructions over the phone on how to cook and prepare the food required!

She's a bight one alright- she gets out of being seen as the manual labour in the background (as we know hiding away in the kitchen etc is often the kiss of death for a candidate on the Apprentice) AND maximises the chances of improving the food.

Alas it backfired as the food was a bland disaster, but fair play to her for trying.

Thing was she could have potentially won that task if she had of been in the kitchen.

On this I think we will agree!

While the awful Liz Jones seems to have quite a large margin of error.

Yep! She would have known about portion control and overheads and all that stuff that makes caterers a profit.

To be honest, I don't think I've seen too many say they like Liz. Most people seem to feel more pity and see her as being fairly pathetic and lonely. At least, that's how she appears to me.

Here we go again. An attractive confident and successful women is never disliked for bad reasons because the only possible bad reason anyone could have is jealousy, and we know that never happens.

Indeed.

I wasn't thinking they liked her, just that she's given a pretty large margin of error. Even when people can't find a way to agree with or defend the content of some of her appalling views, she's excused on the specious grounds that it's her job to write controversial things.

Hold on, so what exactly is the problem?? Because you criticised Luisa for talking about her sex life when she's a parent, but the second some of the male housemates get called out for the same thing you then all of a sudden change it to her not being taken seriously in business.