Originally Posted by wonkeydonkey:
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Not for the first time, I wish there was not so much labelling on this forum. I think Dappy is graceless and juvenile for someone in his mid 20's with two children, but there is absolutely no reason to believe that he has offended anyone. I think Luisa and Jasmine are both trying too hard to look sexy for the cameras, but they haven't harmed anyone either.
The scene in the bath was dull imo, predictable and tiresomely attention seeking. I don't buy for an instant Luisa's disingenuous comment that 'me and Jas just wanted to have a nice time': all three of them knew perfectly well that the cameras were on them, and they were playing it up for all they were worth.
Which was not particularly grown up; but it is a gameshow, and you could argue that people like Linda and Liz are not providing much meat and drink for the cameras, so someone else is getting the attention.”
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Not for the first time, I wish there was not so much labelling on this forum. I think Dappy is graceless and juvenile for someone in his mid 20's with two children, but there is absolutely no reason to believe that he has offended anyone. I think Luisa and Jasmine are both trying too hard to look sexy for the cameras, but they haven't harmed anyone either.
The scene in the bath was dull imo, predictable and tiresomely attention seeking. I don't buy for an instant Luisa's disingenuous comment that 'me and Jas just wanted to have a nice time': all three of them knew perfectly well that the cameras were on them, and they were playing it up for all they were worth.
Which was not particularly grown up; but it is a gameshow, and you could argue that people like Linda and Liz are not providing much meat and drink for the cameras, so someone else is getting the attention.”
Originally Posted by wonkeydonkey:
“It does, I agree. A depressing number of posts go on about him being physically unattractive - too short, too thin, not pretty enough, male - as an excuse to say how revolting and vile he is. That really isn't acceptable. If it is sleazy to play truth or dare, with nipple sucking and random kissing, it was equally sleazy for the beautiful girls to do it.”
“It does, I agree. A depressing number of posts go on about him being physically unattractive - too short, too thin, not pretty enough, male - as an excuse to say how revolting and vile he is. That really isn't acceptable. If it is sleazy to play truth or dare, with nipple sucking and random kissing, it was equally sleazy for the beautiful girls to do it.”
So when someone says the women are degrading themselves and have no self respect (in the post your first post above replied to), you have no problem with it, but instead talk of other thing. However, it's different if people criticise Dappy and don't have a problem with the 'beautiful girls'.
In any case, I don't think the tub antics were especially dull -- certainly not compared to the supposedly "deep" conversation about atomic weapons etc -- or predictable. There hasn't been anything quite like it in other series, so it could be predictable only in terms so general that they shouldn't count against it.
