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I haven't. (Where's my 'Timeslip' DVD?
)Really? IMO I thought 'Waters of Mars' was far and away the best episode of the 'Specials' run. Admittedly, that isn't setting the bar very high. The only Boxset I've not bought. In fairness the part of it I hate is the 'Time Lord Victorious' thing, which I suppose is RTD's writing. The main Mars story is just average Doctor Who, and not greatly objectionable, although I did find the comic-book style characters to be irritating. Quote:
Like watching Doctor Who?
![]() #canofworms I've never really understood how adults could be bothered with shows like the Sarah Jane adventures to be honest. I don't mean that scornfully, I just genuinely don't get it. I watched a single episode of that show because it had the 11th Doctor in it and it was just... a kid's show. Nothing wrong with that but it was trite, and boring, and just unengaging to my adult mind. I don't know how anyone could sit through multiple episodes to be honest, let alone watch them all. But then, I know there are lots of adults who go to see all of these animated children's films at the cinema. I can't sit through those either. Anyway, thread seriously derailed. Slap my wrist and continue as you were. |
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If you like, and I appreciate that you are playing Devil's Advocate and making a pithy remark but we both know Doctor Who is not a children's show; it's suitable for children, and that's not the same thing.
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I find some children's programming (Horrible Histories and SJA) are a welcome form of escapsim, sure they are less engaging, thought provoking, whatever. But what they are is bloody good fun
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I asked on page 1 of this thread if the clockwork robot's rumour was meant to be the one's from the girl in the fireplace and if so, how the could possibly return. can no on answer this in any way? not trying to be pushy, just really curious
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I asked on page 1 of this thread if the clockwork robot's rumour was meant to be the one's from the girl in the fireplace and if so, how the could possibly return. can no on answer this in any way? not trying to be pushy, just really curious
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I asked on page 1 of this thread if the clockwork robot's rumour was meant to be the one's from the girl in the fireplace and if so, how the could possibly return. can no on answer this in any way? not trying to be pushy, just really curious
Actually they didn't have evil intentions did they, they just followed orders or their central programming. Since they were robots they just did it without recourse to impact on human life?Similarities to 2001: Space Oddyssey, and I Robot et. al |
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Actually they didn't have evil intentions did they, they just followed orders or their central programming. Since they were robots they just did it without recourse to impact on human life?Similarities to 2001: Space Oddyssey, and I Robot et. al |
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Interesting and somewhat grumpy wishlist article :
http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/7-wante...-era-57370.htm I agree with the arcs bit. |
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I think the 'no more timey-wimey' plots is a bit silly considering its about a dude with a time machine!
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confirmed writers:
moffat phil ford neil cross mark gatiss rumoured: frank cottrell boyce they are now filming ep 1, which is set in victorian london and features the clockwork robots. |
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Less reliance on time travel in a show about time travel. The rest of the article had its merits but that but smacked of someone who only started watching in 2005 and thinks its all about modern day earth stories. Possibly the worst thing of RTDs era was that he almost totally ignored the time travel aspect and its implications. Moffat brought it back front and centre. Quite right to.
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but yet rumours are that they are back, and I just dont see how
They've been hanging around Europe for 140 years displayed as curiosities (non working) until they are gathered together and repowered by some alien force which wants to use them in it's evil plan. |
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I asked on page 1 of this thread if the clockwork robot's rumour was meant to be the one's from the girl in the fireplace and if so, how the could possibly return. can no on answer this in any way? not trying to be pushy, just really curious
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They've been hanging around Europe for 140 years displayed as curiosities (non working) until they are gathered together and repowered by some alien force which wants to use them in it's evil plan.
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Less reliance on time travel in a show about time travel. The rest of the article had its merits but that but smacked of someone who only started watching in 2005 and thinks its all about modern day earth stories. Possibly the worst thing of RTDs era was that he almost totally ignored the time travel aspect and its implications. Moffat brought it back front and centre. Quite right to.
For me, I think time-travel has been used as a get-out-of-jail free card a few too many times in the Moffat era, and not just by Moffat. I think it works here and there...I more-or-less loved the Series 5 finale, and A Christmas Carol which also heavily focused on the concept of time travel. But I think a more coherent A-B plot isn't so bad some of the time, and we've now had three story arcs that have played out essentially back-to-front. There's nothing wrong with a more linear storyline some of the time, and I think Series 8 should adopt one. Just my personal opinion of course
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Less reliance on time travel in a show about time travel. The rest of the article had its merits but that but smacked of someone who only started watching in 2005 and thinks its all about modern day earth stories. Possibly the worst thing of RTDs era was that he almost totally ignored the time travel aspect and its implications.
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Why are you all so negative? Rather than talking what you want LESS, try to think what you want MORE. It would be much more constructive and more interesting. Quote:
Less reliance on time travel in a show about time travel. The rest of the article had its merits but that but smacked of someone who only started watching in 2005 and thinks its all about modern day earth stories. Possibly the worst thing of RTDs era was that he almost totally ignored the time travel aspect and its implications. Moffat brought it back front and centre. Quite right to.
As for timey-wimey, I'd like to see more one-episode timey-wimey (like Big Bang or Blink). Whole-season timey-wimeys are also good, but writers need to be careful not to make it too complicated. For example, 7B arc about Clara was fantastic, but River story was a little bit too complicated for my taste. So, in season 8, i'd like too see more one-episode timey-wimeys and a little easier arcs. |
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Why are you all so negative? Rather than talking what you want LESS, try to think what you want MORE. It would be much more constructive and more interesting.
Well, time travel should definitely be in focus and present-day-earth is certainly overused in RTD era, especially in season 1 and finals. As for timey-wimey, I'd like to see more one-episode timey-wimey (like Big Bang or Blink). Whole-season timey-wimeys are also good, but writers need to be careful not to make it too complicated. For example, 7B arc about Clara was fantastic, but River story was a little bit too complicated for my taste. So, in season 8, i'd like too see more one-episode timey-wimeys and a little easier arcs. |
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Less reliance on time travel in a show about time travel. The rest of the article had its merits but that but smacked of someone who only started watching in 2005 and thinks its all about modern day earth stories. Possibly the worst thing of RTDs era was that he almost totally ignored the time travel aspect and its implications. Moffat brought it back front and centre. Quite right to.
I'm not a fan of Moffat's messy stories. The only time he got time travel right was with River Song's first episode (Silence In The Library) and Blink. |
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If you had a 'real' time machine, and you lived your life skipping up and down the fourth dimension, your life could get really, REALLY complicated.
Moff has presented to us a little bit of what that might be like and I think he's one of the first people to do so in the series' history. Rock on! |
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If you had a 'real' time machine, and you lived your life skipping up and down the fourth dimension, your life could get really, REALLY complicated.
Moff has presented to us a little bit of what that might be like and I think he's one of the first people to do so in the series' history. Rock on! That second part is more difficult and Moffat has shown quite well how paradoxes can very easily happen! |
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How can anyone answer your question when its just a rumour? Let alone pass judgement on the merits of their return? Who knows how it will turn out? If internet forums had been around decades ago no doubt some people would have complained when the Daleks came back with the usual 'they were good for those episodes but theyll spoil it!' and 'we don't need a story about how the Daleks were created! That will just spoil the mystery!'. How about we hold fire and wait until the episode actually airs before passing judgement?
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Less reliance on time travel in a show about time travel. The rest of the article had its merits but that but smacked of someone who only started watching in 2005 and thinks its all about modern day earth stories. Possibly the worst thing of RTDs era was that he almost totally ignored the time travel aspect and its implications. Moffat brought it back front and centre. Quite right to.
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They've been hanging around Europe for 140 years displayed as curiosities (non working) until they are gathered together and repowered by some alien force which wants to use them in it's evil plan.
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what the writer of that article was trying to say, in my opinion, is that moffats era seems to consist a lot of time wibbly wobbly time travel stuff as a mean's of explaining anything away or standing in for lack of a meaty, well written plot. Yes it's good to mess with time as part of the plot as episodes like blink show, but the whole show shouldn't rely on this constantly. That stuff should be balanced out with episodes where time travel just takes the doctor and his companion to their destination so that they can have a good, intriguing straight forward plot in an interesting time/location
Asylum of the Daleks Dinosaurs on a SpaceShip A Town Called Mercy The Power of Three Cold War Hide The Crimson Horror None of these stories relied at all upon 'Timey Wimey' plots and were entirely straight forward Doctor Who episodes. So there you go. Balance. Where the whole time travel aspect is largely irrelevant once they get to their location. So your comment that 'the whole show shouldn't rely on this' is shown as untrue because it clearly doesn't. |
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