I don't think that is it. I don't like Jim, just that he was treated bad and set up by Linda tonight. It could of been anybody really that she had done it too. I think you are just looking at the Jim aspect of the situation.

The thread is about how nasty Linda was and is.

She claimed there was history, Jim challenged her on that immediately in front of Emma before they went and she completely back trached. He said they had only ever met at the most on three occasions.

She doesn't like it that he doesn't allow her to hold court with him as she tries to do with others. No one is allowed to express an alternative opnion than hers when she is around.

As for the 'f off' incident with Jasmine Jim sang it at her as Lee was singing to them it seemed like a joke to me, as Sam tried to tell her, but obviously she didn't see it that way.

I hope JIm does liven up and tell some of them a few home truths.

Exactly. I was giving both of them the benefit of the doubt until this incident occurred. Linda showed herself to be a vindicative old witch and it was great that Jim had the self-control not to rise to the bait.

Linda's mistake was in taking the bait. It was clear as day to me that Jim was on a self-set mission to wind her up all episode which he managed with tremendous success. Isn't that what he is known for? Winding people up? Linda could have just shrugged it off but she took it personally and to heart.

As for setting him up, I seem to recall Linda expressely stating that she does not want other people to dislike him, just because she dislikes him. But of course by that point it didn't matter as he'd already successful pissed Jasmine off with Sam and Luisa being sympathetic towards her.

If Linda had encouraged the others to have a go at him you would have a point. But she didnt't. So you don't.

So do I.

What show were you watching?

Just like her sister. And Denise Welch. It seems to be a trait of the two Nolan women that worked for Denise odd that.

Julie and Jim have obvious public personas that make them easy targets, it's not unlikely that either of them could be difficult, so it's very easy to become a victim of theirs isn't it? Making the Nolan look the 'poor downtrodden doesn't know what they did wrong' wronged one.

I watched it but didn't see that

Could you please tell me what exactly I missed.
Thank you.

Don't tell me I do not have a point !!!!!! I have an opinion and that is based on Linda gathering the housemates together and bitching about Jim then saying she was not telling them not to like him. She was setting him up simple. If you cannot see that then that is you're problem, but this is a forum and I am entitled to my opinion whether you like it or not.

The Nolans have made a career out of preaching about their poor and downtrodden life. They've made it into an art.

The one where Jim isn't some defenseless victim with no prior history of being a wind up merchant.

And you?

And do you not think that their 'public personas and reputations' are there for a reason? We certainly saw that Julies reputation was deserved although the production team held back for a while before revealing it. I suspect they'll do the same for Jim.

You did not miss it at all, never happened.

And puffy faces.

Whatever their back stories, that's for us to judge and the other HMs to judge within the house, fairly no?

I am simply pointing out that both Nolan's have chosen easy targets in order to further their own overdue minutes of fame. That makes them no better and possibly worse IMO.

You misunderstand me ........they have a reutation for being nasty/difficult. I suspect it's because they are and that's why people who are living with them speak out.

We're not talking about prior history, we're talking about what actually happened on the show tonight.

Continuously interrupting her anecdotes. Flippantly asking if he should stamp his clothes into the floor. That kind of thing. Seemed pretty clear to me he was in the mood to annoy.


Maybe I should have said "I don't see your point". Sorry if I sounded rude, it wasn't my intention.

I'll leave this thread alone anyway since my opinion is not towing the forum narrative.

Jim is a tw*t, I don't blame her for disliking him.

As for Colleen, she saw through the odious Julie who constantly pretended to be a sweet old lady despite being a conniving old bag

You don't say!

Linda was totally out of order and did anyone here jim tell jasmine to **** off?

No problem and no apology necessary as we all have different opinions.

Regardless of Julie and Jim's reputations both Nolan women have used the same tactic that saw Denise Welch win.

Each time their accusations have been more about their own gut feelings, there has been nothing obvious to begin with for the viewers to actually pick up on, only what they themselves have pointed out and made into an issue.

Each time they have spoken about 'history' that Julie or Jim are seemingly unaware of.

It's a pretty low way to further your time in a RTV. Quite pathetic really.

looks as though Linda has taken a leaf out of her book then!

What was it she was saying to Luisa yesterday about not being a bitch?

Here's she's gathered a crowd around her just to get them on her side.