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Old 08-01-2014, 17:38
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So if you met her in a pub do you think she would sleep with you? How shallow.
And some male posters wonder where they are going wrong when it comes to finding a girlfriend?
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Old 08-01-2014, 18:16
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Jeez all I can say is I wish I looked as rough as Jasmine.
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Old 08-01-2014, 18:27
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She is a very attractive girl imo.
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Old 08-01-2014, 18:52
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You appear to be confusing me with someone else. Jealousy you say huh?

Beautiful women have far less margin for error and are not on a level playing field on these kinds of shows and on these forums. You see it time and again.

It is a phenomenon that fascinates me on here, and it's always interesting to see the gender of the posters who feel the need to insult the physical appearance of very attractive women. I'm assuming you're ok with fat ugly women being slated too or it is just certain women it's ok to mock?

If you want to call it jealously, then go right ahead and be my guest. I certainly haven't.



Interesting.

Beauty is wholly subjective. I actually think Luisa and Casey are far more aesthetically pleasing; but that's just my opinion of course. Because you think Jasmine is beautiful, is that opinion final and non negotiable? Can you accept that others might find other women in the house more attractive?

As for 'fat, ugly' women being slated - why not? If they behave like ***** then yes, they are just as worthy of criticism as the beautiful ones who behave like *****. Are 'fat, ugly' women OK to be criticised because they are also not on a level playing field? Does 'fat' always equal 'ugly' or do you just equate the 2 together for another reason?

I also don't buy your point about the gender of posters. Do you have the time to actively survey the gender of each and every poster if it not clear from their posts? Do you have statistical proof of the majority gender slating the (in your opinion), very beautiful women? Or is it simply a sweeping statement?
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Old 08-01-2014, 19:06
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Beauty is wholly subjective. I actually think Luisa and Casey are far more aesthetically pleasing; but that's just my opinion of course. Because you think Jasmine is beautiful, is that opinion final and non negotiable? Can you accept that others might find other women in the house more attractive?
Yes, totally

As for 'fat, ugly' women being slated - why not? If they behave like ***** then yes, they are just as worthy of criticism as the beautiful ones who behave like *****.
Again I ask- who makes these rules? Effectively you're saying if people behave badly we can critique their physical appearance, if they are demure wallflowers, they're off limits re putting them down on their looks? Is that it?
Also your perception of people who act badly and are 'ok to criticise' may well be different to someone elses.
Are 'fat, ugly' women OK to be criticised because they are also not on a level playing field? Does 'fat' always equal 'ugly' or do you just equate the 2 together for another reason?
No, not at all
I also don't buy your point about the gender of posters. Do you have the time to actively survey the gender of each and every poster if it not clear from their posts? Do you have statistical proof of the majority gender slating the (in your opinion), very beautiful women? Or is it simply a sweeping statement?
It doesn't really matter whether you buy my point re the gender. I make my observations, and you have every right to say you think I'm wrong. I'm pretty certain I'm not though. I'm not brand new to this forum and to me this is actually one of the more interesting things about this whole thing.

Do I have the time to actively survey the gender of 'each and every poster'? No of course not.
It is pretty easy to ascertain the gender of many posters on here? Yes of course it is.

Do I have statistical proof that many of the OTT totally disproportionate posts that are specifically denigrating very conventionally attractive women on their physical appearance are female? No of course not. I certainly don't have time for that.
I guess a combination of my perception/ memory means that (especially over time) you notice certain patterns/ trends especially when they appear time and again. It's not exactly rocket science we're talking about here after all.

If I said I once looked on a 1D appreciation thread and made the observation that most people gushing over them were not middle aged males would you be amazed at that revelation? If not, why not.
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Old 08-01-2014, 19:23
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Yes, totally


Again I ask- who makes these rules? Effectively you're saying if people behave badly we can critique their physical appearance, if they are demure wallflowers, they're off limits re putting them down on their looks? Is that it?
Also your perception of people who act badly and are 'ok to criticise' may well be different to someone elses.

No, not at all

It doesn't really matter whether you buy my point re the gender. I make my observations, and you have every right to say you think I'm wrong. I'm pretty certain I'm not though. I'm not brand new to this forum and to me this is actually one of the more interesting things about this whole thing.

Do I have the time to actively survey the gender of 'each and every poster'? No of course not.
It is pretty easy to ascertain the gender of many posters on here? Yes of course it is.

Do I have statistical proof that many of the OTT totally disproportionate posts that are specifically denigrating very conventionally attractive women on their physical appearance are female? No of course not. I certainly don't have time for that.
I guess a combination of my perception/ memory means that (especially over time) you notice certain patterns/ trends especially when they appear time and again. It's not exactly rocket science we're talking about here after all.

If I said I once looked on a 1D appreciation thread and made the observation that most people gushing over them were not middle aged males would you be amazed at that revelation? If not, why not.


No, of course not. As you yourself said, it's not rocket science. But the demographic of the BB viewer is a lot more diverse than the tweeny female 1D contingent.


Let me ask you then - why are you worried more for the 'beautiful' women being criticised than the 'fat, ugly' ones? Surely the 'beautiful' ones have an innate advantage and the 'fat ugly' ones need MORE positivity.

IMHO, Jasmin HAS had some work done. I do actually think she is hugely attractive - but looks better without too much make up. Just like you with your memory and perception skills, I have a very good eye for cosmetic work - and she has definitely had some. Is me saying that per se denigrating her? I don't think so. Do I like her as a person? Don't really know her; but I don't like her infamy and the fact that she has slept with married men and done little else of note to be 'famous'.
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Old 08-01-2014, 19:47
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Let me ask you then - why are you worried more for the 'beautiful' women being criticised than the 'fat, ugly' ones? Surely the 'beautiful' ones have an innate advantage and the 'fat ugly' ones need MORE positivity.
What makes you think I'm 'worried' about it? I, like the rest of you post on an internet forum. That's all. It's not some moral crusade I lie awake and agonise over I can assure you.

As for the 'fat/ ugly' ones (think we're in danger of overusing this, but I appreciate I used those words earlier to try and illustrate my point), well they have more than enough defenders on here from what I can see. If someone makes a jibe about a woman being fat (unless it's a previous glamour girl who's dared to perhaps have a baby and not shed her weight instantly or just 'let herself go' in general or they want to promote a fitness dvd in a month or 2 etc), then they will have ample defence on here.
The 'beautiful' ones as you put it may have some innate advantages in life, but on DS forums it's often the opposite.
IMHO, Jasmin HAS had some work done. I do actually think she is hugely attractive - but looks better without too much make up. Just like you with your memory and perception skills, I have a very good eye for cosmetic work - and she has definitely had some. Is me saying that per se denigrating her? I don't think so. Do I like her as a person? Don't really know her; but I don't like her infamy and the fact that she has slept with married men and done little else of note to be 'famous'.
Ha ha, I suspected me mentioning my 'memory and perception' may be picked up on but I didn't really know a better way to try and explain to you something that's pretty normal to me and I'm sure many others. It just seemed odd that you wondered whether I had statistical analysis or enough time to analyse each and every post/poster, as this might imply that I couldn't possibly be able to justify my claims without it. You asked whether it's a sweeping statement? No, it is not.

As for Jasmine, I'm not disputing she's had work done. On top of my memory and perception skills, you want to see what my eyeballs are capable of too!

Oh and no, you saying you believe she has had work done is definitely not denigrating her. That is a normal observation to me. The denigrating happens when rather more negative comments/ connotations re her physical appearance are made.
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Old 08-01-2014, 19:52
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Actually I have no idea what she used to look like before. I have no interest either really. I personally think she looks very stretched, pulled and artificial .......maybe it's natural - I don't know.

I think I'm the only person who doesn't rate her much - I think she looks a bit grubby - I must have odd taste - I think the same about Angelina Jolie - both look like they need a good scrub.
Give me the scrubbing brush and bath tub and I'll do the job.....on both
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Old 08-01-2014, 23:26
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A phenomenon that doesn't exist because beauty and attractiveness is purely subjective, and just because you find one person attractive doesn't mean that everyone else will feel the same
Beauty isn't totally subjective; but it is subjective whether one is personally attracted by someone's looks. Beauty doesn't have to be subjective for different people to find different others attractive.

Pretty much the only reasons people think beauty is purely subjective are the cliché that beauty is in the eye of the beholder and some questionable reasoning about historical and cultural differences (and some about subjectivity and opinions).
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Old 08-01-2014, 23:27
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I don't think she looks awful, she's a very pretty girl.
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