The Ratings Thread (Part 57)

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xeo

16-01-2014

Originally Posted by Salv*:
“Is that one of the closest 9pm battles between all 5 main channels in a long time? All within 1.3m of each other.

BBC1- Waterloo Road- 3.33m + Live at the Apollo- 2.15m
ITV1- 3.27m
Ch4- 24 Hrs in A&E- 2.60m
CH5- Celebrity Big Brother- 2.49m
BBC2- Wild Brazil- 2.03m”

Waterloo Road wins 9pm slot shocker

wizzywick

16-01-2014

Originally Posted by Totem_Bern:
“Really? Neat concept not sure it will translate well with broad audience.

I still think they're mad not to revive Elodrado - its a great concept and it's so potent in the face os the European "invasion" cough cough and the economic "collapse" of the EU. There's so many stories to tell there.

And people live sunshine ”

If EastEnders does move to 5 nights a week (this has been speculated for years but never comes into fruition), I can see a Wednesday night looking like this in Autumn:

7.00pm The One Show
8.00 EastEnders
8.30 Dickensian
9.00 The Apprentice

That is already a much stronger Wednesday night line up than we've had since, well the last time The Apprentice was on.

Chris1964

16-01-2014

Originally Posted by Mike Teevee:
“ITV must very gutted Man United got dumped out early from FA Cup

Man City clearly don't have enough glory hunters.... yet

Code:

rank programme channel time figure 1 Coronation Street ITV 19:30 7767000 2 EastEnders BBC1 Inc HD 20:00 6666000 3 Emmerdale ITV 19:00 6649000 4 Regional News and Weather BBC1 Inc HD 18:30 5958000 5 BBC News at Six BBC1 Inc HD 18:00 5200000 6 The One Show BBC1 Inc HD 19:00 4407000 7 The Great Sport Relief Bake Off BBC2 Inc HD 20:00 4314000 8 BBC News at Ten BBC1 Inc HD 22:00 4222000 9 Pointless BBC1 Inc HD 17:15 3982000 10 ITV News London ITV 18:00 3752000 11 ITV News & Weather ITV 18:30 3723000 12 Waterloo Road BBC1 Inc HD 20:30 3327000 13 FA Cup Replay: Manchester City v Blackburn Rovers ITV 20:00 3268000 14 BBC News at One BBC1 Inc HD 13:00 3023000 15 The Chase ITV 17:00 2921000 16 Regional News and Weather BBC1 Inc HD 13:30 2884000 17 Antiques Road Trip BBC1 Inc HD 16:30 2345000 18 24 Hours in A&E Channel 4 Inc HD 21:00 2327000 19 Celebrity Big Brother: Live Eviction Channel 5 Inc HD 21:00 2314000 20 Live at the Apollo BBC1 Inc HD 21:30 2151000 21 Bargain Hunt BBC1 Inc HD 12:15 2117000 22 A Question of Sport BBC1 Inc HD 22:45 2111000 23 Wild Brazil BBC2 Inc HD 21:00 2025000 24 The Restoration Man Channel 4 Inc HD 20:00 1663000 25 Great British Railway Journeys BBC2 Inc HD 18:30 1642000

ITV does inc HD, ratings are NOT tape checked”

Yes its poor stuff. Fanbase is everything it seems, City are playing some champagne football at the moment and are the team of the moment. Casual viewers not bothered by that though. ITV might be gutted about the figure (less than Waterloo Road overall) but may be not so much about being dumped from the whole thing.

Some poor figures almost all round. Bake off making its presence felt and Eastenders suffering. Viewers not filling their seats early for the build up to the Coronation Street event which presumably means Monday will see a big peak but then drop off very quickly. Soaps have it tough these days, you cant have a landmark death (or landmark anything) every week.

The Chase looks low, Pointless really seen to thrive by being constantly there, whether its public or celebrity. Weakest Link lasted for years and years but I never ever understood why it did so well-Pointless is showing the same signs of longevity but its a much stronger format imo.

Totem_Bern

16-01-2014

Originally Posted by johnnymc:
“I wouldn't say "EastEnders" should be popping the champange corks just yet. Some scenes and characters dont work still and its a work in progress. Much more watchable though, but what about gaining a new audience for it or trying to bring back the fans who were lost amongst the Newman era.”

But it's always a work in progress? It never stops.

I think you're being picky to be honest. It'll never be perfect and never was! There's a few little things to sort out but for the average viewer i think these are not really a problem.

And it's not like DTC hasn't instilled absolute faith in a vast majority of people he can deliver. He's not dropped the ball on one thing i can think of so far to my taste anyway.

Totem_Bern

16-01-2014

Originally Posted by johnnymc:
“I agree that a January relaunch of "Eldorado" would work in s completely different form. The production and stories would have to match the concept though. It probably would rate as well as "Emmerdale" and definately more than "Waterloo Road" !”

Indeed. Even 4-5 million would do it.

And time it for the launch of +1 so that any attempt to sabotage the launch by ITV by scheduling clashes with the other soaps is rendered impotent.

Pow!

Tassium

16-01-2014

The BBCs Dickens soap sounds like a Hollywood "high concept" piece of junk.

Gimmicky. It's got built in marketing appeal, but is a trash concept not worthy of the BBC.

Rather than develop that thing why not an original take on that period of time? Maybe in the modern age to show that nothing really changes.

mrstreetcred

16-01-2014

Is that live Apollo rating what we can expect for outnumbered, it's not a good sign!

johnnymc

16-01-2014

I think this is why "EastEnders" should build in a landmark episode. Its consistent but there is nothing to say viewers haven't tuned out on a long term basis. You need a hook to bring them back in and that's not just Danny Dyer or Lindsey Coulson acting her socks off because its not event must see television that audiences have become so familiar with. I think attention spans and flexiabilty are damaging the soap audience. If its not exciting enough for viewers to put down their I pads or tablets for then its not worth tuning in for.

wizzywick

16-01-2014

Originally Posted by Tassium:
“The BBCs Dickens soap sounds like a Hollywood "high concept" piece of junk.

Gimmicky. It's got built in marketing appeal, but is a trash concept not worthy of the BBC.

Rather than develop that thing why not an original take on that period of time? Maybe in the modern age to show that nothing really changes.”

There's the spirit! Write something off as junk and slag it off before it's even aired. How do you know it won't be the most innovative piece of television you've ever seen? That's why nothing succeeds these days, people never want to give anything a decent chance. Yes, it might be terrible. But equally it might be superb. Why don't we wait and see?

Chris1964

16-01-2014

And it certainly would have to be in completely different form (including the name). Eldorado is arguably the most panned and derided programme in tv history.

johnnymc

16-01-2014

Originally Posted by Totem_Bern:
“Indeed. Even 4-5 million would do it.

And time it for the launch of +1 so that any attempt to sabotage the launch by ITV by scheduling clashes with the other soaps is rendered impotent.

Pow!”

"Death In Paradise" works well because its so sunny and viewers like its lightness and easy watch at this time of year. I reckon a soap on that level could work. If not "Eldorado" then Cornwall or Jersey? Without the storm damage story lines

Its such a controversial programme its initial audience would be huge. The media had a field day with it so would be interested to see it rebooted and on top form with great writers and cast but I would keep it to just stories on the British ex pats this time! No foriegn language sequences!

cylon6

16-01-2014

Originally Posted by Mike Teevee:
“ITV must very gutted Man United got dumped out early from FA Cup

Man City clearly don't have enough glory hunters.... yet

Code:

rank programme channel time figure 1 Coronation Street ITV 19:30 7767000 2 EastEnders BBC1 Inc HD 20:00 6666000 3 Emmerdale ITV 19:00 6649000 4 Regional News and Weather BBC1 Inc HD 18:30 5958000 5 BBC News at Six BBC1 Inc HD 18:00 5200000 6 The One Show BBC1 Inc HD 19:00 4407000 7 The Great Sport Relief Bake Off BBC2 Inc HD 20:00 4314000 8 BBC News at Ten BBC1 Inc HD 22:00 4222000 9 Pointless BBC1 Inc HD 17:15 3982000 10 ITV News London ITV 18:00 3752000 11 ITV News & Weather ITV 18:30 3723000 12 Waterloo Road BBC1 Inc HD 20:30 3327000 13 FA Cup Replay: Manchester City v Blackburn Rovers ITV 20:00 3268000 14 BBC News at One BBC1 Inc HD 13:00 3023000 15 The Chase ITV 17:00 2921000 16 Regional News and Weather BBC1 Inc HD 13:30 2884000 17 Antiques Road Trip BBC1 Inc HD 16:30 2345000 18 24 Hours in A&E Channel 4 Inc HD 21:00 2327000 19 Celebrity Big Brother: Live Eviction Channel 5 Inc HD 21:00 2314000 20 Live at the Apollo BBC1 Inc HD 21:30 2151000 21 Bargain Hunt BBC1 Inc HD 12:15 2117000 22 A Question of Sport BBC1 Inc HD 22:45 2111000 23 Wild Brazil BBC2 Inc HD 21:00 2025000 24 The Restoration Man Channel 4 Inc HD 20:00 1663000 25 Great British Railway Journeys BBC2 Inc HD 18:30 1642000

ITV does inc HD, ratings are NOT tape checked”

Thanks Mike.

EastEnders holding up much better than I expected. Live At The Apollo should be at 10.34pm.

Chris1964

16-01-2014

I love Dickens novels, Bleak House a few years ago was a landmark adaptation played out like a soap twice weekly.

However at first glance I agree with you , it looks a bit weird to me.

Hit Em Up Style

16-01-2014

Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“If EastEnders does move to 5 nights a week (this has been speculated for years but never comes into fruition), I can see a Wednesday night looking like this in Autumn:

7.00pm The One Show
8.00 EastEnders
8.30 Dickensian
9.00 The Apprentice

That is already a much stronger Wednesday night line up than we've had since, well the last time The Apprentice was on.”

I think the Autumn would be too soon unless it was agreed to go five nights now. When it went four nights in 2001 the production team had a whole year to prepair for it.

johnnymc

16-01-2014

Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“I love Dickens novels, Bleak House a few years ago was a landmark adaptation played out like a soap twice weekly.

However at first glance I agree with you , it looks a bit weird to me.”

Have to say " Bleak House" was great! It did good business for the audience figures too but "Little Dorrit" then collapsed and they didn't do any more

yorkie100

16-01-2014

Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“There's the spirit! Write something off as junk and slag it off before it's even aired. How do you know it won't be the most innovative piece of television you've ever seen? That's why nothing succeeds these days, people never want to give anything a decent chance. Yes, it might be terrible. But equally it might be superb. Why don't we wait and see?”

Well you definately cant right something off till you seen it - but it does sound wierd. Infact a Dickensian soap opera sounds OK but the characters from Dickens novels all living in the same stratosphere doesnt sound like mass appeal which surely all soap operas are supposed to be - and just when would you schedule it?

wizzywick

16-01-2014

Originally Posted by johnnymc:
“Have to say " Bleak House" was great! It did good business for the audience figures too but "Little Dorrit" then collapsed and they didn't do any more”

Little Dorrit was nowhere near as good as Bleak House though. Bleak House was a masterpiece. Why don't they repeat it on Sunday afternoons?

wizzywick

16-01-2014

Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“Well you definately cant right something off till you seen it - but it does sound wierd. Infact a Dickensian soap opera sounds OK but the characters from Dickens novels all living in the same stratosphere doesnt sound like mass appeal which surely all soap operas are supposed to be - and just when would you schedule it?”

As Tony Jordan is in the driving seat on this, I have a bit of faith it will be good. People do know Dickens characters so the mass appeal is there. It obviously won't be advertised as a soap and will be promoted to the stage that we've convinced ourselves that it's been on for years!

Totem_Bern

16-01-2014

Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“And it certainly would have to be in completely different form (including the name). Eldorado is arguably the most panned and derided programme in tv history.”

It's up there, but there are plenty of other disasters out there too!

In it's favour though is it's built a huge cult over the years.
It ended strongly. It left people wanting more not less.
It would be brave daring crazy and utterly genius to revive it

Chris1964

16-01-2014

Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“Little Dorrit was nowhere near as good as Bleak House though. Bleak House was a masterpiece. Why don't they repeat it on Sunday afternoons?”

Iv got the box-set and I agree its brilliant. Bleak House though does lend itself to that twice weekly format better than most-its a really atmospheric gripping story with some great characters.

Salv*

16-01-2014

Reports that CBB has been extended AGAIN.

Simply Big Brother ‏@Simply_BBUK 7m
Channel 5 is moving the Celebrity Big Brother 2014 final AGAIN from Tuesday 28th to Wednesday 29th January. #CBB

Big Brother UK Fans ‏@bbuk_fans 1m
The Big Brother final will now take place on Wednesday 29th January, meaning Channel 5 has extended the series again, by 1 day #cbb #bbuk

Dancc

16-01-2014

Originally Posted by Salv*:
“Reports that CBB has been extended AGAIN.

Simply Big Brother ‏@Simply_BBUK 7m
Channel 5 is moving the Celebrity Big Brother 2014 final AGAIN from Tuesday 28th to Wednesday 29th January. #CBB

Big Brother UK Fans ‏@bbuk_fans 1m
The Big Brother final will now take place on Wednesday 29th January, meaning Channel 5 has extended the series again, by 1 day #cbb #bbuk”

I wouldn't trust that. I've heard nothing from C5 via e-mail and Digiguide has not been updated with this information.

Scheduling deadline was yesterday so all magazines would be wrong. Plus they have NCIS starting on January 29 which is another of the channel's biggest shows.

Dancc

16-01-2014

Channel 5 commissions The Surgery: Medicating Lewisham (4x60):

http://about.channel5.com/node/1917

cylon6

16-01-2014

Originally Posted by xeo:
“Waterloo Road wins 9pm slot shocker ”

*FAINTS*

cylon6

16-01-2014

No more soaps! We have enough. What we DO need more of us variety in schedules. Sitcom, drama, 30 minute quizzes.

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