Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“It was up against Coronation Street on Monday and didn't seem to be an issue for either programme on that occasion too.
No, because people like Outnumbered, they don't like Live at the Appalling. This series really needs to end now, it's been running ten years this year and it's been useful in showcasing some new talent for BBC1 but it's a tired format and totally unsuitable for primetime consumption. They can carry on doing stand-up on TV but they need a new format or a new venue or something. The same people have been on it too many times and people aren't watching because all the episodes are the same.
A few weeks back I suggested a new soap on BBC1 was the worst idea ever floated in this thread (the second worst being Brekkie's brilliant regional political programmes in primetime idea) - http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...postcount=5526. I'd now like to suggest that a new soap on BBC1 and that soap being Eldorado knocks that original suggestion into a cocked hat.
But nobody's interested in expats, that was the thing that terminally sank Eldorado and meant it was never going to be a hit. The average viewer doesn't care about people living in Spain, it's totally alien to most people. If they're having a horrible time, who cares? The idea was presumably that it would be nice to watch the hot weather but that just makes it worse, it makes us dislike them and not care about their problems even more. You can argue that Neighbours and Home and Away were also set in nice places with hot weather but that's countered by the fact 99% of the scenes are all set indoors in kitchens and front rooms and could be anywhere.
It's the same idea that lead to Crossroads coming back, and we know how badly that went. You get the name recognition from show one thanks to everyone going Crossroads is back, ha ha ha, but it only has a novelty factor. If it's just a perfectly adequate but totally unexceptional soap, everyone will switch off. The new Crossroads wasn't doing anything the other soaps weren't already and any novelty disappeared after week one when everyone realised it was just going to be a bog standard soap.
I mean, this is not having a go at anyone personally, but Eldorado is the most toxic brand imaginable. You'd be better off bringing back Jim'll Fix It.”
“It was up against Coronation Street on Monday and didn't seem to be an issue for either programme on that occasion too.
No, because people like Outnumbered, they don't like Live at the Appalling. This series really needs to end now, it's been running ten years this year and it's been useful in showcasing some new talent for BBC1 but it's a tired format and totally unsuitable for primetime consumption. They can carry on doing stand-up on TV but they need a new format or a new venue or something. The same people have been on it too many times and people aren't watching because all the episodes are the same.
A few weeks back I suggested a new soap on BBC1 was the worst idea ever floated in this thread (the second worst being Brekkie's brilliant regional political programmes in primetime idea) - http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...postcount=5526. I'd now like to suggest that a new soap on BBC1 and that soap being Eldorado knocks that original suggestion into a cocked hat.
But nobody's interested in expats, that was the thing that terminally sank Eldorado and meant it was never going to be a hit. The average viewer doesn't care about people living in Spain, it's totally alien to most people. If they're having a horrible time, who cares? The idea was presumably that it would be nice to watch the hot weather but that just makes it worse, it makes us dislike them and not care about their problems even more. You can argue that Neighbours and Home and Away were also set in nice places with hot weather but that's countered by the fact 99% of the scenes are all set indoors in kitchens and front rooms and could be anywhere.
It's the same idea that lead to Crossroads coming back, and we know how badly that went. You get the name recognition from show one thanks to everyone going Crossroads is back, ha ha ha, but it only has a novelty factor. If it's just a perfectly adequate but totally unexceptional soap, everyone will switch off. The new Crossroads wasn't doing anything the other soaps weren't already and any novelty disappeared after week one when everyone realised it was just going to be a bog standard soap.
I mean, this is not having a go at anyone personally, but Eldorado is the most toxic brand imaginable. You'd be better off bringing back Jim'll Fix It.”
If people don't care about people living abroad why were Neighbours and Home and Away such big hits? Thats poppycock. The show failed cos it was a mess. No matter how good a concept if you execute it badly it's done for.
The drama makes you care about the characters whoever they are or wherever they're from, whether it's another country or another planet.
As for Crossroads well it's was out of touch. It never made sense to bring back a show that was so old fashioned in the first place.
