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The Ratings Thread (Part 57)
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cylon6
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by Mike Teevee:
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Code:
rank	programme	channel	time	figure
1	Coronation Street	ITV	19:30	8336000
2	Emmerdale	ITV	19:00	7052000
3	EastEnders	BBC1 Inc HD	20:00	6670000
4	Regional News and Weather	BBC1 Inc HD	18:30	6663000
5	BBC News at Six	BBC1 Inc HD	18:00	5615000
6	Midsomer Murders	ITV	20:00	5090000
7	The One Show	BBC1 Inc HD	19:00	4631000
8	ITV News London	ITV	18:00	4142000
9	ITV News & Weather	ITV	18:30	4025000
10	BBC News at Ten	BBC1 Inc HD	22:00	3877000
11	Pointless	BBC1 Inc HD	17:15	3855000
12	Waterloo Road	BBC1 Inc HD	20:30	3412000
13	Regional News and Weather	BBC1 Inc HD	13:30	2973000
14	BBC News at One	BBC1 Inc HD	13:00	2928000
15	The Chase	ITV	17:00	2925000
16	Stargazing LIVE	BBC2 Inc HD	20:00	2434000
17	Celebrity Big Brother: Live Eviction	Channel 5 Inc HD	21:00	2400000
18	Antiques Road Trip	BBC1 Inc HD	16:30	2330000
19	24 Hours in A&E	Channel 4 Inc HD	21:00	2270000
20	Live at the Apollo	BBC1 Inc HD	21:30	2234000
21	Bargain Hunt	BBC1 Inc HD	12:15	2045000
22	ITV News at Ten & Weather	ITV	22:00	2010000
23	Stargazing LIVE: Back to Earth	BBC2 Inc HD	21:00	1939000
24	A Question of Sport	BBC1 Inc HD	22:45	1796000
25	The Restoration Man	Channel 4 Inc HD	20:00	1679000
ITV does inc HD, ratings are NOT tape checked”

Thanks for the ratings Mike. I really don't see the point of Stargazing Live Back To Earth. Viewers tune out for it.
yorkie100
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“#Thanks Mike.

Looking at that breakdown for BBC1 its not a pretty sight. EE dropped as it went along, as did Waterloo Road, and then Appollo finishes with under 2million only booted by viewers turning in early for the BBC news.”

Thats because the programs were tripe(EE excepted) - much like ITV on Tuesdays.
kwynne42
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Thanks for the ratings Mike. I really don't see the point of Stargazing Live Back To Earth. Viewers tune out for it.”

Yet last nights was the best half hour of TV I have seen in ages.
Tassium
09-01-2014
Stargazing Live at 90minutes long would perhaps be off-putting, so the show is split to 60+30.

The 30min "extra" programme is thus extra viewers for cheap... But it get's weird since the BBC put this extra programme on directly after the main programme!

This undermines the whole point of splitting the programme. Crazy.
kittenkong42
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Thanks for the ratings Mike. I really don't see the point of Stargazing Live Back To Earth. Viewers tune out for it.”

I really like it. And I think it's sensible to not be part of the main show as it's quite different in style and is more of a conversation about an interesting topic. It can be heavier going so I'm not surprised it gets a smaller audience though...


Quote:
“7 The One Show BBC1 Inc HD 19:00 4631000”

Surprised by that rating! The hour long Wednesday show normally gets much lower figures as there seems to be a 7:30 switch over to Corrie. Impressed it managed to sustain a 21% audience share for the whole thing. Guess the new studio is working for them
cylon6
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“Thats because the programs were tripe(EE excepted) - much like ITV on Tuesdays.”

Waterloo Road and Live At The Apollo had no appeal for me and it seems most viewers. And when EastEnders stops on Wednesday BBC1 will be in the crap with these two dud shows.

Flop Wednesdays are a comin'!
ChrisE
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by Mike Teevee:
“much as it pains me to give Sky credit, Arrow's is rating better than the last series of Smallville was on E4

Not sure it would do that much better on E4, even with the greater reach of FTA vs pay tv”

I fairness, Arrow is one of the better shows of it's genre, IMHO, so ratings would probably be better on E4.

On another note Mike, do you see the HD figures for BBC3/CBBC and BBC4/CBBC (although not available everywhere)?
AlexiR
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by kittenkong42:
“I really like it. And I think it's sensible to not be part of the main show as it's quite different in style and is more of a conversation about an interesting topic. It can be heavier going so I'm not surprised it gets a smaller audience though...”

I did wonder if there was a noticeable difference in content between the two which made sense of them being packaged as different shows.
cylon6
09-01-2014
"@mediaguardian: Midsomer 5.4m/22.5%, Wat'loo Rd 3.4m/14%, CBB 2.6m/11.6%, 24 Hrs A&E 2.5m/10.6%, Stargazing 2.4m/10%, Benefits St (rpt) 1.7m/9.9% #tvratings"
Mike Teevee
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by ChrisE:
“I fairness, Arrow is one of the better shows of it's genre, IMHO, so ratings would probably be better on E4.

On another note Mike, do you see the HD figures for BBC3/CBBC and BBC4/CBBC (although not available everywhere)?”

I don't think they're reported separately (unless it's available to people with planning systems).

The only reason we have ITV HD separately is because they choose to have it monitored (I believe). Everybody else wants it bundled in with SD figures.
AlexiR
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by ChrisE:
“I fairness, Arrow is one of the better shows of it's genre, IMHO, so ratings would probably be better on E4.”

I tend to agree with Mike on this one. I don't think the show would be doing significantly better on E4 at least not in the final figures. I suspect on E4 it would be pulling stronger over nights and time shifting a little less though.

On the subject of The Tomorrow People. A strong opening for it but I can't for the life of me imagine its going to hold up. Its a pretty poor show. I'm looking forward to seeing how Brooklyn Nine-Nine does for E4 when it starts later this month. Its pretty good (and getting better I think).

Sticking with US television news I've just noticed that The Middle is moving from Sky1 to Comedy Central, when did that happen?
H of De Vil
09-01-2014
Looking froward to the comedy block tonight. Its so nice having that 8:30pm slot after Emmerdale being used to its full potential, and also 90minutes of comedy on ITV. No matter which channel 90minutes of comedy (that is worth watching) is always a good thing, so hopefully tonight ratings remain stable. I imagine ITv will see how tonight rates for BOAF then commission a second series shortly after.

I can see it holding over 7million with Benidorm over 6m tonight.
H of De Vil
09-01-2014
Reece Shearsmith and Sheridan Smith in The Widower

ITV has announced a three part factual drama, The Widower, from ITV Studios based on the crimes of convicted murderer, Malcolm Webster.

http://www.itv.com/presscentre/press...r#.Us6IPLT0kqI

Although its good their commissioning more drama, I can't help but think they should be looking at potential series, not one-offs which don't usually rate well. The dramas of the future need to be found, BBC1 has a whole raft of new coming up, ITV has a couple.
Salv*
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by AlexiR:
“I tend to agree with Mike on this one. I don't think the show would be doing significantly better on E4 at least not in the final figures. I suspect on E4 it would be pulling stronger over nights and time shifting a little less though.

On the subject of The Tomorrow People. A strong opening for it but I can't for the life of me imagine its going to hold up. Its a pretty poor show. I'm looking forward to seeing how Brooklyn Nine-Nine does for E4 when it starts later this month. Its pretty good (and getting better I think).

Sticking with US television news I've just noticed that The Middle is moving from Sky1 to Comedy Central, when did that happen?”

TTP has surprised me on US pace. I am all caught up on it. It starts slow, the first 3 episodes are quite slow, but from Episode 4 onwards is when it kicks off and have been extremely hooked. I can't wait for it to return next week as it ended on a cliffhanger.

The Big Bang Theory and New Girl have already started, just waiting for TTP, TVD, Arrow, The Originals, 2 Broke Girls and Mom!
cylon6
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by Mike Teevee:
“EE, WR, Apollo - BBC1
6792
6547
3540
3541
3382
3186
1983
2486”

Thanks for the ratings breakdown Mike.

BBC1 had a shocker after EastEnders finished. Waterloo Road will tank, the inevitable is just being delayed.
cylon6
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Reece Shearsmith and Sheridan Smith in The Widower

ITV has announced a three part factual drama, The Widower, from ITV Studios based on the crimes of convicted murderer, Malcolm Webster.

http://www.itv.com/presscentre/press...r#.Us6IPLT0kqI

Although its good their commissioning more drama, I can't help but think they should be looking at potential series, not one-offs which don't usually rate well. The dramas of the future need to be found, BBC1 has a whole raft of new coming up, ITV has a couple.”

Popular short serials can do well if engaging and scheduled well as The 7.39 showed. They can sit alongside returning hits. ITV still has a few like Scott & Bailey, Downton and now Broadchurch.
ChrisE
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by Mike Teevee:
“I don't think they're reported separately (unless it's available to people with planning systems).

The only reason we have ITV HD separately is because they choose to have it monitored (I believe). Everybody else wants it bundled in with SD figures.”

Thanks Mike.

Yeh, 1000th, it's only taken me 10 years.
gavin shipman
09-01-2014
Great for CBB. I think the eviction Friday could make close to 3 Million.
AlexiR
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“TTP has surprised me on US pace. I am all caught up on it. It starts slow, the first 3 episodes are quite slow, but from Episode 4 onwards is when it kicks off and have been extremely hooked. I can't wait for it to return next week as it ended on a cliffhanger.”

I was greatly disappointed mainly because I thought it had (potentially still has) a degree of promise. The execution just hasn't been especially good. Although I'll admit that I threw in the towel around episode 5 or 6 so it may have improved since. I just didn't have the time or patience to wait and see if it ever got its act together.

Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Popular short serials can do well if engaging and scheduled well as The 7.39 showed. They can sit alongside returning hits. ITV still has a few like Scott & Bailey, Downton and now Broadchurch.”

They can also be quite useful in developing relationships with writers, actors and producers that can prove helpful. And they can help to establish names and pedigree for the future as well. In theory they also allow you to break out of your comfort zone and little and test the water on new ideas and different genres with relatively low risk (although ITV never seems that keen on this).
ChrisE
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by AlexiR:
“I tend to agree with Mike on this one. I don't think the show would be doing significantly better on E4 at least not in the final figures. I suspect on E4 it would be pulling stronger over nights and time shifting a little less though.

On the subject of The Tomorrow People. A strong opening for it but I can't for the life of me imagine its going to hold up. Its a pretty poor show. I'm looking forward to seeing how Brooklyn Nine-Nine does for E4 when it starts later this month. Its pretty good (and getting better I think).

Sticking with US television news I've just noticed that The Middle is moving from Sky1 to Comedy Central, when did that happen?”

The point I was trying to make was that it's probably the best of the newish genre shows, so should rate better, wherever it was shown.

Agree on BNN, very funny show.
welshfoxy
09-01-2014
Sorry, but what did EE used to average during its last good spell? I keep seeing it average 6-7 million at the moment, but peaking at 8. What was its norm for average and peak? Many thanks
Ed Sizzers
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“This series of Celebrity Big Brother has been must see TV.”

Really?

Why?
GoshBagosh
09-01-2014
Another Strong Night for Channel 4

Restoration Man 1.7 Million (exc. +1)
24 Hours in A&E 2.5 Million
Benefits Street(rpt) 1.7 Million

Damm Good repeat numbers for Benefits Street


Tomorrow People did well for E4 but it was awful, and looks like it will get cancelled after season 1
xeo
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by welshfoxy:
“Sorry, but what did EE used to average during its last good spell? I keep seeing it average 6-7 million at the moment, but peaking at 8. What was its norm for average and peak? Many thanks”

Well back in 2010 it was neck and neck with Corrie on first showings but the BBC Three repeat (at 10pm then) used to regularly get 1m+ as well.
RobbieSykes123
09-01-2014
Presumably Apollo was only on to fill the half hour gap to the news. It will go when WR returns to 8pm.

They'd have been better off putting a 30 year old OFAH out!
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