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The Ratings Thread (Part 57)
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Rob1985
20-01-2014
Originally Posted by Ice dragon1:
“Was it really that bad?”

No...
GoshBagosh
20-01-2014
Speed Guy was a great rating for Channel 4 on Sunday nights... Probably would've done better during the week, but I doubt 4 were expecting it to pull in 2mill on SUndays at 8...

Don't Look Down was a fantastic documentary .. recordered it and just finished.

Tonight, I think Benefits Street will be down a bit.. around 4.5 Mill would be my guess.
Helix, has no reason to rate under 2 million tonight. It will most likely sink in the coming weeks, but with a lead in of 2.4 mill approx it should rate well.

Corrie... 9.5 Mill
Andy23
20-01-2014
Originally Posted by Ice dragon1:
“Was it really that bad?”

No

There are these things called personal opinions, they often differ. You generally need to generate your own instead of latching on to the first that you see.
Chris1964
20-01-2014
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“I think it is a mistake to run an 'all stars' series of Dancing on Ice. I think it would have rated better if they'd have had another normal series with new celebs, they could have done the all stars thing as a 1 or 2 week special at the end of the series. How far down is it compared to last year?”

Yes, viewers simply haven't bought into the idea have they and it feels like a closing down sale rather than a fond goodbye.
Zac Quinn
20-01-2014
Originally Posted by xeo:
“It was practically a national piece. They went on for a bit about the history of the character and they had a small interview with Stuart Blackburn about the right to die storyline.”

So they didn't even particularly try to tie it into the Midlands then? Shameful

Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Call The Midwife is this generation's Heartbeat”

Call The Midwife isn't "this generation's" anything - "this generation" (assuming you mean those currently coming through university to run the world in the next 5-10 years) make up only a fifth of its audience. The biggest age group making up its viewership (almost 50% of it) is the exact same generation who'd have watched Heartbeat.
Agent F
20-01-2014
Originally Posted by garyessex:
“A pretty terrible episode of Corrie, lacking any emotion whatsoever. Shameful end to a decent character and probably the years mostw watched episodes aswell i bet.”

Terrible?!

It was stunning, powerful, brave television with some of the best acting I've ever seen in a soap opera. The Corrie team should be very proud of that episode.
Belligerence
20-01-2014
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“Really powerful Corrie tonight, who was it said soaps were not proper drama?

Second episode ran 2029 to 2055 approx, like it always does on a Monday, which is why without tape checking it always looks like the second one rates lower than the first.”

As far as I'm concerned they should have left the last half-hour to Roy and Hayley. I wanted to see more, without the interruptions, but even in the short time Roy and Hayley had together tonight, it was very well put. Convincing acting all round.

The inclusion of an interfering Carla and Tyrone was unnecessary.
Zac Quinn
20-01-2014
Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“I couldn't care less what rating Corrie gets tonight. That last episode was so moving, it really is the end of an era as far as I'm concerned. Facebook and twitter have gone crazy tonight.

Samuel, type in #Corrie into twitter and you will see the overwhelming reaction.”

Equally though if you search "Corrie disappointment" or "Corrie letdown" you'll find a fair few tweets come up there. Not that we should read anything into it at all - twitter is almost as horrendous in the 'caught up in the moment dare not say anything against the grain' over-the-top reaction stakes as the Digital Spy forums! As Andy said, far better to make up your own minds.
Last edited by Zac Quinn : 20-01-2014 at 21:17
Dancc
20-01-2014
Originally Posted by GoshBagosh:
“Helix, has no reason to rate under 2 million tonight.”

No reason at all if we ignore all available ratings evidence for Channel 5 in the 10pm hour. Even the last ever episode of a favourite like CSI:NY could only manage 1.5m at 10pm, and that didn't finish at nearly midnight.

Seriously, don't be so daft. It won't reach your target because it's not a realistic one. And you know that.
lewiep93
20-01-2014
Originally Posted by Zac Quinn:
“Equally though if you type "Corrie disappointment" into twitter you'll find a fair few posts come up there. Not that we should read anything into it at all - twitter is almost as horrendous in the 'caught up in the moment dare not say anything against the grain' over-the-top reaction stakes as the Digital Spy forums! As Andy said, far better to make up your own minds.”

Oh I agree (there were only two posts re disappointment) but for posters to instantly declare them to be a damp squib is a bit ridiculous tbh.

Exactly, people should make up their own minds.

Edit - ah yes there are lots more posts re "letdown"

But the two episodes were heart renching.
Chris1964
20-01-2014
Fantastic figures for Call the Midwife-posting its best ever overnight is some achievement, and 2.2 million ahead of its nearest rival on a strong night.
Great start for Musketeers too, though I think the ratings in two weeks time will tell just how much of a hit it is (have yet to see it personally). It has definitely hit Selfridge though which will probably underperform to a degree for its whole run now.
Ice dragon1
20-01-2014
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“No

There are these things called personal opinions, they often differ. You generally need to generate your own instead of latching on to the first that you see.”

Andy seriously take your ITV glases off for a second, and you will just see I was quoting a post that said it was bad. Plus it's not just that post, I've noticed a few seem to think the same over on the soap thread.
wizzywick
20-01-2014
Originally Posted by Zac Quinn:
“Equally though if you type "Corrie letdown" into twitter you'll find a fair few posts come up there. Not that we should read anything into it at all - twitter is almost as horrendous in the 'caught up in the moment dare not say anything against the grain' over-the-top reaction stakes as the Digital Spy forums! As Andy said, far better to make up your own minds.”

I can imagine it went a bit like this:

Corrie did produce a strong, heart wrenching episode that was powerful and emotional. Some people expected the episode to be different so were disappointed. Some thought it was a little sombre, and some thought it was magnificently acted television. Corrie wouldn't have made a piss poor episode as the climax to this characters story. How viewers interpret it is up to them.

By the way, I didn't watch it.
Agent F
20-01-2014
Originally Posted by Ice dragon1:
“Andy seriously take your ITV glases off for a second, and you will just see I was quoting a post that said it was bad. Plus it's not just that post, I've noticed a few seem to think the same over on the soap thread.”

You're one to talk about bias. You jumped on that post quicker than a tramp jumps on chips.
GoshBagosh
20-01-2014
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“No reason at all if we ignore all available ratings evidence for Channel 5 in the 10pm hour. Even the last ever episode of a favourite like CSI:NY could only manage 1.5m at 10pm, and that didn't finish at nearly midnight.

Seriously, don't be so daft. It won't reach your target because it's not a realistic one. And you know that.”

How do you know?

I'm basing it on Under the Domes launch... Time will tell
xeo
20-01-2014
Originally Posted by Zac Quinn:
“Equally though if you search "Corrie disappointment" or "Corrie letdown" you'll find a fair few tweets come up there.”

If you search for negative things you'll find negative things! Not everyone is going to like everything, there are always going to be bad comments.

Really good episodes tonight I thought. Very touching.
Dancc
20-01-2014
Originally Posted by Ice dragon1:
“Andy seriously take your ITV glases off for a second, and you will just see I was quoting a post that said it was bad. Plus it's not just that post, I've noticed a few seem to think the same over on the soap thread.”

Who cares?

Whether it was good or not is not what we're about in here.

It's good that most people who watched it from here enjoyed it, albeit not strictly relevant either. I really don't care for this non viewers cherry-picking negative comments business though, and it's so blatent as well.

Can we try to get back on topic please as this line of discussion is only going to lead to further arguments, that much is obvious.
Zac Quinn
20-01-2014
Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“Oh I agree (there were only two posts re disappointment) but for posters to instantly declare them to be a damp squib is a bit ridiculous tbh.

Exactly, people should make up their own minds.

Edit - ah yes there are lots more posts re "letdown"

But the two episodes were heart renching.”

sorry about that one matey
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“I can imagine it went a bit like this:

Corrie did produce a strong, heart wrenching episode that was powerful and emotional. Some people expected the episode to be different so were disappointed. Some thought it was a little sombre, and some thought it was magnificently acted television. Corrie wouldn't have made a piss poor episode as the climax to this characters story. How viewers interpret it is up to them.

By the way, I didn't watch it.”

I think you're exactly right. And not that it particularly matters anyway - people wouldn't know until they'd tuned in, and this is a ratings thread not a Corrie thread
Ice dragon1
20-01-2014
Originally Posted by Agent F:
“You're one to talk about bias. You jumped on that post quicker than a tramp jumps on chips.”

Because I saw a lot of negativity on the soap forums and I came to this thread and saw that so what was I meant to think.
dan2008
20-01-2014
Originally Posted by garyessex:
“It didn't seem really "event tv" which you can imagine. Lots of pointless "other stuff"”

I wouldn't class someone dying of cancer 'Event TV ' however I think Corrie viewers will have enjoyed what they see because they are the ones that invented in that Character.
I suspect the casuals/Ex corrie viewers will have tuned in tonight to see her die.

Both episodes will be high 9's/10mil if not higher I would have thought.
NeilVW
20-01-2014
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“A bit surprised ITV didn't have a 'Goodbye Hayley' programme on at 20:00 to be honest.”

Originally Posted by AlexiR:
“Have they put this kind of thing on before opposite EastEnders? Doesn't seem like a great idea. Maybe more Tuesday fodder?”

Monday 10 May 2010

BBC One
20:00 - EastEnders: 8.86m consolidated
* highest-rated episode of the week, by a margin of 766k

ITV
19:30 - Coronation Street: 9.74m consolidated
20:00 - Goodbye Blanche: 4.70m consolidated
20:30 - Coronation Street: 9.95m consolidated

Monday 2 January 2012

BBC One
20:00 - EastEnders: 10.98m consolidated
20:35 - EastEnders - Farewell Pat: 4.62m (16.5%) overnight

ITV
20:30 - Coronation Street: 8.99m / 9.29m consolidated
* lowest-rated episode of the week by a margin of 599k exc +1

Blanche died off-screen, it should be noted.
Ice dragon1
20-01-2014
Originally Posted by dan2008:
“I wouldn't class someone dying of cancer 'Event TV ' however I think Corrie viewers will have enjoyed what they see because they are the ones that invented in that Character.
I suspect the casuals/Ex corrie viewers will have tuned in tonight to see her die.

Both episodes will be high 9's/10mil if not higher I would have thought.”

I think they could rate higher then that Dan.
wizzywick
20-01-2014
Originally Posted by Zac Quinn:
“
I think you're exactly right. And not that it particularly matters anyway - people wouldn't know until they'd tuned in, and this is a ratings thread not a Corrie thread ”

But these particular episodes are likely going to dominate tomorrows "Ratings Thread" discussions. Whether people watch Corrie or not, tonights episode are highly significant, no one can deny that.
Dancc
20-01-2014
Originally Posted by GoshBagosh:
“How do you know?

I'm basing it on Under the Domes launch... Time will tell”

Under the Dome was sandwiched between the a two part Big Brother final and promoted heavily throughout, including by the presenter. Not quite the same is it. There is no compelling reason for the CBB audience to stick around, especially with CBBBOTS airing so incredibly late.

I know it's not possible because I've been studying C5's ratings for years and it can't possibly do 2M over the slot allocated. If I was a cynic I'd say you are only predicting that so however it performs tonight it will look worse than it actually is tomorrow, just because it didn't meet your ludicrous expectation.
ronant
20-01-2014
Originally Posted by Ice dragon1:
“Ronant do you have the Voice brakedown from Saturday please I've asked and haven't had any luck yet.”

Sorry, I feel bad for saying it but I'm very limited to how many reports I can see each month - if I respond to every question on here and on Twitter then my access would be gone within hours!

I'm fairly sure though that it would have risen through the episode like last week, but peaked lower.
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