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The Ratings Thread (Part 57)
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D.M.N.
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“So?

The ratings are rubbish for ITV at this time of year.

It most certainly should be cancelled.”

Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“I don't think D.M.N was arguing the case for or against the survival of Splash. He was just countering Samuels argument that it is collapsing. I think it's fair to say it is severely underperforming but it hasn't totally collapsed because its audience are strangely, sticking with it! Bless 'em.”

wizzywick got it.

Collapsed suggests that ratings have decreased each week which, in fact it hasn't.

Yes, it won't be recommissioned, but at the same point it hasn't gone down to embarrassing lows either. It was never going to be around for the long term.
Philip Wilson
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“When did C4 move tonight's The Jump premiere to 8pm? I'm sure the first episode was airing at 9pm the last time I checked with subsequent episodes at 8pm.

Tough slot in theory against another zeleb show in Dancing on Ice and Call the Midwife busy crowd pleasing on BBC One.”

I didn't even realise it started tonight, can't see it doing very well at all.
Drifter
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by mossy2103:
“Agreed. It would almost certainly have done better on a Monday.”

Doesn't always work - that was supposed to happen to Ripper St wasn't it? Sometimes ratings just baffle and you can never know why they suddenly spiral downwards in what in theory are better slots. Whitechapel being another mystery. By Any Means might have floundered anyway, but we'll never know.
D.M.N.
26-01-2014
Wednesday 15th January - Consolidated Ratings
1 - Coronation Street - 9.35m (9.03m excl. +1)
2 - EastEnders - 7.57m
3 - Emmerdale - 7.33m (7.15m excl. +1)
4 - BBC News (18:00) - 5.17m
5 - The Great Sport Relief Bake Off - 5.02m
6 - The One Show - 4.32m
7 - BBC News (22:00) - 4.22m
8 - Pointless - 4.05m
9 - Waterloo Road - 3.93m
10 - ITV News (18:30) - 3.69m (3.62m excl. +1)

Thursday 16th January - Consolidated Ratings
1 - EastEnders - 8.37m
2 - Birds of a Feather - 7.65m (7.36m excl. +1)
3 - Emmerdale (20:00) - 7.59m (7.45m excl. +1)
4 - Silent Witness - 7.59m
5 - Emmerdale (19:00) - 7.45m (7.37m excl. +1)
6 - Benidorm - 6.41m (5.70m excl. +1)
7 - BBC News (18:00) - 5.44m
8 - The Great Sport Relief Bake Off - 4.94m
9 - BBC News (22:00) - 4.67m
10 - The One Show - 4.61m

Friday 17th January - Consolidated Ratings
1 - Coronation Street (19:30) - 9.57m (9.41m excl. +1)
2 - Coronation Street (20:30) - 9.33m (9.13m excl. +1)
3 - EastEnders - 8.02m
4 - Emmerdale - 7.72m (7.52m excl. +1)
5 - Silent Witness - 7.59m
6 - BBC News (18:00) - 5.50m
7 - BBC News (22:00) - 4.44m
8 - The One Show - 4.40m
9 - Pointless - 4.25m
10 - The Graham Norton Show - 4.23m

Saturday 18th January - Consolidated Ratings
1 - The Voice UK - 8.88m
2 - Casualty - 5.72m
3 - Lottery: Who Dares Wins - 5.19m
4 - BBC News (22:00) - 5.12m
5 - Take Me Out - 4.78m (4.47m excl. +1)
6 - Despicable Me - 4.41m (3.60m excl. +1)
7 - Splash! - 4.17m (3.95m excl. +1)
8 - BBC News (17:15) - 4.05m
9 - Dynamo: Magician Impossible - 3.92m
10 - Match of the Day - 3.79m
Dancc
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by Philip Wilson:
“I didn't even realise it started tonight, can't see it doing very well at all.”

The advert during CBB on Friday reminded me.

Still not sure how it'll do. Some in the media trying to push the jeopardy element.

I could see it starting well but failing to sustain it through the week.
iaindb
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“
Thursday 16th January - Consolidated Ratings
4 - Silent Witness - 7.59m

Friday 17th January - Consolidated Ratings
5 - Silent Witness - 7.59m
”

Brilliant, absolutely brilliant. Do you think that was exactly the same 7.59m people watching both episodes? Not one single person switching off after part one cos they're not enjoying the story?
Drifter
26-01-2014
Also whoever said Rising Star getting 5 million would be a good result, it really isn't unless they think it will rise. That would be dreadful. Dancing On Ice hasn't even fallen to that and of course it's been axed. This is the major problem here. DOI must be one of the highest rating axed shows of the last few years. Yes it might have fallen further since they didn't iron out the problems (and of course one of these talent/reality shows had to go first) but the instant expectation now for ITV in doing that is to have a 7m+ banker in its place. I assume Rising Star won't be cheap to run either. And demos? Well DOI doesn't do badly for the younger demos does it? Rising Star will presumably match or beat it in that sense but by how much, and will the overall ratings be good enough?

I don't have the best feeling although the gimmick IS interesting and may have a Voice-like effect for the initial few weeks. We will see.

I think it's safe to assume we won't be getting Ant & Dec as presenters, but they need someone who is going to be a big draw. God only knows who the judges will be as well.

I think ITV for the time being would have been better looking for a drama replacement for DOI. They did after all used to bolster their Sundays. A drama sandwiched between 2 quizzes with another drama at 9 might have worked well. Of course the problem is anything they showed would likely have a crossover audience with the ever popular Countryfile so perhaps that's why they're looking for more entertainment, derivative as it is. The stronghold BBC1 have on Sundays Q1 now have made it really hard for ITV to get a leg-up.
mrstreetcred
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“ Brilliant, absolutely brilliant. Do you think that was exactly the same 7.59m people watching both episodes?”

What suprises me is how 2 million more decide to watch it, I'm a big fan of silent witness, but it's not must see tv I would've thought. Obviously I'm wrong but I would have guessed most people would have the attitude I'll watch it if I'm not busy!
mintbro
26-01-2014
The lack of entertainment presenters does make me wonder who will present Rising Star, my bets are on Holly or Davina
Drifter
26-01-2014
That's not terrible for Splash yesterday but it's still not good enough. The format is so limited and gets stale very quickly. It needs to be nipped in the bud now because I just can't see it going anywhere. If it has to come back then move it to the summer where it will probably rate similarly and its performance will be more acceptable.

I hope ITV commission something new for Q1 Saturdays.
wizzywick
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by mintbro:
“The lack of entertainment presenters does make me wonder who will present Rising Star, my bets are on Holly or Davina”

Is the launch of a Michael McIntyre talkshow a possible hint that ITV are attempting to poach Graham Norton? After all his company is now owned by ITV Studios? Perhaps ITV have Graham Norton linked to it.
mintbro
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by Drifter:
“Also whoever said Rising Star getting 5 million would be a good result, it really isn't unless they think it will rise. That would be dreadful. Dancing On Ice hasn't even fallen to that and of course it's been axed. This is the major problem here. DOI must be one of the highest rating axed shows of the last few years. Yes it might have fallen further since they didn't iron out the problems (and of course one of these talent/reality shows had to go first) but the instant expectation now for ITV in doing that is to have a 7m+ banker in its place. I assume Rising Star won't be cheap to run either. And demos? Well DOI doesn't do badly for the younger demos does it? Rising Star will presumably match or beat it in that sense but by how much, and will the overall ratings be good enough?

I don't have the best feeling although the gimmick IS interesting and may have a Voice-like effect for the initial few weeks. We will see.

I think it's safe to assume we won't be getting Ant & Dec as presenters, but they need someone who is going to be a big draw. God only knows who the judges will be as well.

I think ITV for the time being would have been better looking for a drama replacement for DOI. They did after all used to bolster their Sundays. A drama sandwiched between 2 quizzes with another drama at 9 might have worked well. Of course the problem is anything they showed would likely have a crossover audience with the ever popular Countryfile so perhaps that's why they're looking for more entertainment, derivative as it is. The stronghold BBC1 have on Sundays Q1 now have made it really hard for ITV to get a leg-up.”

Is Dancing on ice really that expensive to make? Compared to the other big reality shows I would of thought its the cheapest.
big dan
26-01-2014
Surely The Jump has absolutely no chance tonight? Didn't even realise it was launching today until I saw an advert just before.

As for The Voice, decent rating but imo this is the worst series yet. Kylie isn't enough to save it for me. Just far too much of the divering of 'oh should I turn? Are you gonna turn'... most of the time resulting in nobody turning and no constructive reasons why. I know it's been present since Day 1 but imo it's really ramped up this time. Though as I say it's clearly doing the business, I guess I am just one voice.
SamuelW
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by mintbro:
“The lack of entertainment presenters does make me wonder who will present Rising Star, my bets are on Holly or Davina”

If I was Itv, I would think outside the box and go for Chris Evans for Rising star. The reason is he presents a radio breakfast show to 9million listeners each morning. If you hired him as a presenter, he would be able to plug the show to a huge number of listeners every single day and increase exposure of the show. Chris Evans is also an entertaining presenter and not an autocue reader like Willoughby or McCall. I wouldnt consider any of the usual types: Schofield, McCall, Willoughby, O'Leary - it would be too predictable.
mrstreetcred
26-01-2014
For me mrs browns boys is the highlight from last night! Most comedies can only dream of that figure, in fact most tv shows, I also love the fact Brendan mentioned the 15 million viewers on Xmas day during the ntas! This probably made a lot of bbc boys very happy, do we know for sure about the next series for 2015!
H of De Vil
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Wednesday 15th January - Consolidated Ratings
1 - Coronation Street - 9.35m (9.03m excl. +1)
2 - EastEnders - 7.57m
3 - Emmerdale - 7.33m (7.15m excl. +1)
4 - BBC News (18:00) - 5.17m
5 - The Great Sport Relief Bake Off - 5.02m
6 - The One Show - 4.32m
7 - BBC News (22:00) - 4.22m
8 - Pointless - 4.05m
9 - Waterloo Road - 3.93m
10 - ITV News (18:30) - 3.69m (3.62m excl. +1)

Thursday 16th January - Consolidated Ratings
1 - EastEnders - 8.37m
2 - Birds of a Feather - 7.65m (7.36m excl. +1)
3 - Emmerdale (20:00) - 7.59m (7.45m excl. +1)
4 - Silent Witness - 7.59m
5 - Emmerdale (19:00) - 7.45m (7.37m excl. +1)
6 - Benidorm - 6.41m (5.70m excl. +1)
7 - BBC News (18:00) - 5.44m
8 - The Great Sport Relief Bake Off - 4.94m
9 - BBC News (22:00) - 4.67m
10 - The One Show - 4.61m

Friday 17th January - Consolidated Ratings
1 - Coronation Street (19:30) - 9.57m (9.41m excl. +1)
2 - Coronation Street (20:30) - 9.33m (9.13m excl. +1)
3 - EastEnders - 8.02m
4 - Emmerdale - 7.72m (7.52m excl. +1)
5 - Silent Witness - 7.59m
6 - BBC News (18:00) - 5.50m
7 - BBC News (22:00) - 4.44m
8 - The One Show - 4.40m
9 - Pointless - 4.25m
10 - The Graham Norton Show - 4.23m

Saturday 18th January - Consolidated Ratings
1 - The Voice UK - 8.88m
2 - Casualty - 5.72m
3 - Lottery: Who Dares Wins - 5.19m
4 - BBC News (22:00) - 5.12m
5 - Take Me Out - 4.78m (4.47m excl. +1)
6 - Despicable Me - 4.41m (3.60m excl. +1)
7 - Splash! - 4.17m (3.95m excl. +1)
8 - BBC News (17:15) - 4.05m
9 - Dynamo: Magician Impossible - 3.92m
10 - Match of the Day - 3.79m”


Thanks DMN, good timeshift for Despicable Me - over 700k.

The Voice timeshifted about 1.5m to a good consolidated rating.
wizzywick
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“If I was Itv, I would think outside the box and go for Chris Evans. The reason is he presents a radio breakfast show to 9million listeners each morning. If you had a presenter like him, he would be able to plug the show to a huge number of listeners and increase exposure of the show. Chris Evans is also an entertaining presenter and not an autocue reader like Willoughby or Mccall.”

Samuel, his listening reach is 9 million listeners per week, not 9million listeners per day.
mintbro
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“Is the launch of a Michael McIntyre talkshow a possible hint that ITV are attempting to poach Graham Norton? After all his company is now owned by ITV Studios? Perhaps ITV have Graham Norton linked to it.”

Can't see Graham moving to itv, he's one of the biggest stars on the BBC, although I think he's underused these days, it's been a while since we've seen him on Saturday nights.
xeo
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by mintbro:
“The lack of entertainment presenters does make me wonder who will present Rising Star, my bets are on Holly or Davina”

I think Davina would be a good fit. ITV seem keen to give her presence on the channel, with Stepping Out and all.

Originally Posted by Drifter:
“Also whoever said Rising Star getting 5 million would be a good result, it really isn't unless they think it will rise. That would be dreadful. Dancing On Ice hasn't even fallen to that and of course it's been axed. This is the major problem here. DOI must be one of the highest rating axed shows of the last few years. Yes it might have fallen further since they didn't iron out the problems (and of course one of these talent/reality shows had to go first) but the instant expectation now for ITV in doing that is to have a 7m+ banker in its place. I assume Rising Star won't be cheap to run either. And demos? Well DOI doesn't do badly for the younger demos does it? Rising Star will presumably match or beat it in that sense but by how much, and will the overall ratings be good enough?”

I would agree but Splash got 5m for its first series and they were obviously happy enough with it. Against The Voice it would be respectable, but if its on Sundays then I would hope for 6m+ at least against an old-skewing BBC One lineup.
Drifter
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by mintbro:
“The lack of entertainment presenters does make me wonder who will present Rising Star, my bets are on Holly or Davina”

I'm still worried it'll be Schofield after the current job goes!

Davina or Holly definite possibilities. Maybe Alesha Dixon.

Think it needs to be someone funny though to make it engaging. Personally I'd rope in Alan Carr just as a total curveball!
SamuelW
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“Samuel, his listening reach is 9 million listeners per week, not 9million listeners per day.”

Either way, his listener reach is the biggest on all of radio. It is potentially a very good way to increase exposure to the show.
F1Ken
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by mintbro:
“Can't see Graham moving to itv, he's one of the biggest stars on the BBC, although I think he's underused these days, it's been a while since we've seen him on Saturday nights.”

Let's Get Ready To Tumble???

Could add some leverage to the show if he presented.
wizzywick
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by mrstreetcred:
“For me mrs browns boys is the highlight from last night! Most comedies can only dream of that figure, in fact most tv shows, I also love the fact Brendan mentioned the 15 million viewers on Xmas day during the ntas! This probably made a lot of bbc boys very happy, do we know for sure about the next series for 2015!”

I watched MBB last night. It still seems fresh after several repeats. One thing I did notice is that all the "f.e.c.k.s" from the dialogue has been replaced with the word proper! I don't know if anyone had noticed. There was no swearing in series 1. It was all "f.e.c.k" Has it now been decided by the BBC that the use of the F-word is acceptable within the context of the show? I hope so.
SamuelW
26-01-2014
A comedian who could break into the mainstream as an entertainment presenter is Jack Whitehall. He has the potential to be mainstream entertainer/presenter material and would be different to the bland autocue readers of O'Leary/Schofield/Mulhern etc.
mrstreetcred
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“Is the launch of a Michael McIntyre talkshow a possible hint that ITV are attempting to poach Graham Norton? After all his company is now owned by ITV Studios? Perhaps ITV have Graham Norton linked to it.”

He'd be foolish to move, itv have Ross, Morgan, along with Paul I Grady teatime show, yes they could try other formats, but if they don't work he's left with a chat show!
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