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The Ratings Thread (Part 57)
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Ice dragon1
08-02-2014
Originally Posted by Ambassador:
“The Voice will probably benefit again from the poor weather down South. Are we nearing the end of chairs yet?

Not entirely bad for Olympics. It is only the Winter Olympics. Curling and Ice skating aside it's hardly mainstream capture the public stuff”

I think there's two more left including tonight's.
seansnotmyname@
08-02-2014
Originally Posted by C14E:
“So even without competition, Life Stories seems to be struggling. They've done over 70 episodes now across 3 years so it's not entirely surprising. I think they'll keep Piers and the brand in some form but we probably won't see them running 14 episodes a year on Fridays at 9pm.



Piers angering those groups is probably the most worthwhile thing he has ever done. And maybe it has extended his stay on CNN - he has been there 3 years now despite the continual bad headlines. If you'd bet on him surviving this long in 2011 you might have won quite a bit of money!”

Not just gun groups, but now transgender groups. Probably others along the way. The fact he's survived is bizarre, the ratings have been very poor with odd blips, and it's dragged CNN down to unprecedented levels. I guess now they just want to see the original contract run out. It's been a disaster for CNN whatever.
Pizzatheaction
08-02-2014
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“More dire soap ratings, in particular Emmerdale last night..

Emmerdale - 6.21m (30.0%) / 6.34m (31.2%)
Coronation Street - 7.75m (35.8%) / 7.88m (36.4%)
EastEnders - 6.68m (30.2%), +2.5: 479k (3.1%)
Coronation Street - 7.49m (32.4%) / 7.65m (33.1%)

I think Emmerdale would have been dented by the Opening Ceremony just finishing, but still a poor number.”

Understandable for EastEnders and Coronation St, perhaps, with one slowly emerging from a disappointing few years, and the other sliding into a bad patch, but we're told nothing but good things about Emmerdale from those who watch it, so surprised to see it at 6.2m even allowing for the fag end of the Olympics ceremony.

Not sure the BBC One Scotland football will have helped EastEnders. It's been a bad few years for "Rangers", for various reasons, so I'm not convinced they're the draw they once were. Think EastEnders would have been better off with BBC One Scotland showing it.
Ambassador
08-02-2014
Originally Posted by Ice dragon1:
“I think there's two more left including tonight's.”

Getting to the fun part then! Reckoning, Judgement Day, Proof in the pudding....any more cliches?
Pizzatheaction
08-02-2014
Originally Posted by Ambassador:
“Getting to the fun part then! Reckoning, Judgement Day, Proof in the pudding....any more cliches?”

Three left, including tonight's.

The supplies of Ratings Thread standard issue y-fronts won't be in demand until the first weekend of March.
NeilVW
08-02-2014
If anyone has the share for the Scottish football, that should help us work out whether it helped or hindered EE's overnight. You might think the latter but these BBC One Scotland matches typically seem to do very well IIRC.
Ambassador
08-02-2014
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“Three left, including tonight's.

The supplies of Ratings Thread standard issue y-fronts won't be in demand until the first weekend of March. ”

It's much longer than the XF audition stage isn't it? (or just feels like it!)

Yes, a Minogue March Meltdown!
Chris1964
08-02-2014
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“Three left, including tonight's.

The supplies of Ratings Thread standard issue y-fronts won't be in demand until the first weekend of March. ”

..are they in the same cupboard as the tin hats?
C14E
08-02-2014
Originally Posted by seansnotmyname@:
“Not just gun groups, but now transgender groups. Probably others along the way. The fact he's survived is bizarre, the ratings have been very poor with odd blips, and it's dragged CNN down to unprecedented levels. I guess now they just want to see the original contract run out. It's been a disaster for CNN whatever.”

He's certainly not doing particularly well but he's not doing all that badly in the context of CNN and that's why he survives. His original contract ended ages ago and has been renewed at least once according to some reports.

The much lauded Anderson Cooper isn't doing significantly better at 8pm and his other 10pm show is a bigger headache than Morgan. Every time they replace one anchor with another they just end up with lower and lower ratings and this has been going on for 10 years at least. The problem isn't really any one person on CNN, it's the whole network - what it stands for, what the programming strategy is when there's no big news and who it is targeting.

The difference now is that Jeff Zucker might be planning a more significant change in terms of the kind of programming that CNN puts out in primetime. So while Piers might have a role in that, I wouldn't be surprised if his nightly show does come to an end in the next year or so.
Pizzatheaction
08-02-2014
I thought I had predicted about 3m for the Olympics ceremony, so I was pleased to check the RPG thread and see it was actually 2.5m.
Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“..are they in the same cupboard as the tin hats? ”

Yep. Proper Aladdin's Cave.
SamuelW
08-02-2014
Originally Posted by Philip Wilson:
“Dejavu: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/showbiz/...fast-show.html

Good luck with that.”

Itv making the same old mistakes once again, thinking that poaching a popular BBC personality will bring viewers to their breakfast show. It wont happen. BBC Breakfast has a loyal audience especially among viewers aged over 50. Daybreak is very lightweight in comparison to Breakfast, focussing a lot on fashion, celebrities and 'human stories' which doesnt appeal to the OAP masses. The pensioners - who need to be attracted in order to get big daytime audiences - are loyal to Breakfast and wont turn over to Daybreak unless Breakfast suddenly turns really bad and changes its focus onto celebrities and lightweight stories [which isnt going to happen anytime soon]. It would be career suicide for Susanna Reid and she'd follow in the footsteps of Des Lynam, Adrian Chiles, Parkinson, Steve Ryder, Christine Bleakley etc whose careers all fell off a cliff after moving from BBC to Itv. Im optimistic she'll remain loyal to the BBC family.
ftv
08-02-2014
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Itv making the same old mistakes once again, thinking that poaching a popular BBC personality will bring viewers to their breakfast show. It wont happen. BBC Breakfast has a loyal audience especially among viewers aged over 50. Daybreak is very lightweight in comparison to Breakfast, focussing a lot on fashion, celebrities and 'human stories' which doesnt appeal to the OAP masses. The pensioners - who need to be attracted in order to get big daytime audiences - are loyal to Breakfast and wont turn over to Daybreak unless Breakfast suddenly turns really bad and changes its focus onto celebrities and lightweight stories [which isnt going to happen anytime soon]. It would be career suicide for Susanna Reid and she'd follow in the footsteps of Des Lynam, Adrian Chiles, Parkinson, Steve Ryder, Christine Bleakley etc whose careers all fell off a cliff after moving from BBC to Itv. Im optimistic she'll remain loyal to the BBC family.”

I thought she'd already denied this a couple of weeks ago
SamuelW
08-02-2014
Originally Posted by ftv:
“I thought she'd already denied this a couple of weeks ago”

Sometimes money can sway people's decisions. Itv are potentially offering her 4 times as much money to do the same kind of job. That must be tempting for anyone. But I think Susanna has integrity and loyalty so am optimistic she wont be swayed by the $$$.
wizzywick
08-02-2014
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Itv making the same old mistakes once again, thinking that poaching a popular BBC personality will bring viewers to their breakfast show. It wont happen. BBC Breakfast has a loyal audience especially among viewers aged over 50. Daybreak is very lightweight in comparison to Breakfast, focussing a lot on fashion, celebrities and 'human stories' which doesnt appeal to the OAP masses. The pensioners - who need to be attracted in order to get big daytime audiences - are loyal to Breakfast and wont turn over to Daybreak unless Breakfast suddenly turns really bad and changes its focus onto celebrities and lightweight stories [which isnt going to happen anytime soon]. It would be career suicide for Susanna Reid and she'd follow in the footsteps of Des Lynam, Adrian Chiles, Parkinson, Steve Ryder, Christine Bleakley etc whose careers all fell off a cliff after moving from BBC to Itv. Im optimistic she'll remain loyal to the BBC family.”

Out of interest, why do all your posts refer to OAP's as if they're the only ones who watch TV? Breakfast appeals to many workers as it's a solid programme to eat your toast and have your coffee with. It's informative and basically is like the "i" newspaer by just focusing on the key news stories, weathjer and business news. I doubt many OAP's watch Breakfast!
SamuelW
08-02-2014
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“Out of interest, why do all your posts refer to OAP's as if they're the only ones who watch TV? Breakfast appeals to many workers as it's a solid programme to eat your toast and have your coffee with. It's informative and basically is like the "i" newspaer by just focusing on the key news stories, weathjer and business news. I doubt many OAP's watch Breakfast!”

Breakfast is popular with all ages. But the core audience of it are the OAPs. Breakfast beats Daybreak by about 3 viewers to 1 every day. In terms of pensioners, it beats Daybreak by about 6 to 1! So it is particularly popular with the more maturing, older generation. Nothing wrong with that, it's a good thing actually in terms of maximising ratings potential.
Glenn A
08-02-2014
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Breakfast is popular with all ages. But the core audience of it are the OAPs. Breakfast beats Daybreak by about 3 viewers to 1 every day. In terms of pensioners, it beats Daybreak by about 6 to 1! So it is particularly popular with the more maturing, older generation. Nothing wrong with that, it's a good thing actually in terms of maximising ratings potential.”

OTOH you could say Daybreak isn't popular with any group. This ITV obsession between 7.00 and 1.30 with catering to a so called female audience isn't working, with once mighty shows like This Morning struggling to get more than a million. A lot of women aren't interested in soaps, zelebs, reality shows and diets.
Ice dragon1
08-02-2014
Gutted for Wales but they didn't play well at all.
Zac Quinn
08-02-2014
Originally Posted by Tourista:
“With Cowell (media whore supreme) coming back, all it will mean is story after story peppering every media outlet, which is what XFUK needs surely?.”

It's not exactly like they calmed down on pushing out X Factor stories every five minutes whilst he was away though, is it?
Charnham
08-02-2014
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“OTOH you could say Daybreak isn't popular with any group. This ITV obsession between 7.00 and 1.30 with catering to a so called female audience isn't working, with once mighty shows like This Morning struggling to get more than a million. A lot of women aren't interested in soaps, zelebs, reality shows and diets.”

cant say ive seen This Morning recently, but when you see clips on Screenwipe, of a couple drinking piss, you know something has gone very wrong.
Glenn A
08-02-2014
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“cant say ive seen This Morning recently, but when you see clips on Screenwipe, of a couple drinking piss, you know something has gone very wrong.”

I saw it last year, not by choice, and it was some woman looking like a man in drag yapping on about soaps to a simpering Schofield and then some feature about BGT. It was mind numbing and a shame when you think that Richard and Judy made it very watchable and also it was getting three times the audience.
Charnham
08-02-2014
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“I saw it last year, not by choice, and it was some woman looking like a man in drag yapping on about soaps to a simpering Schofield and then some feature about BGT. It was mind numbing and a shame when you think that Richard and Judy made it very watchable and also it was getting three times the audience.”

in fairness, the soap corner has always been part of the show, and is harmless enough.
yorkie100
08-02-2014
Originally Posted by Ice dragon1:
“Gutted for Wales but they didn't play well at all.”

Wales have had a fair bit of good fortune in the Six Nations in the last few years particularly against Ireland. They were well beaten today.

England - Scotland should do well ratings wise today and may boost TVUK again. At least it would annoy the Cowell worshippers!!
Ice dragon1
08-02-2014
Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“Wales have had a fair bit of good fortune in the Six Nations in the last few years particularly against Ireland. They were well beaten today.

England - Scotland should do well ratings wise today and may boost TVUK again. At least it would annoy the Cowell worshippers!! ”

How can you say that they won last year because they played well. This year so far they haven't there's no good fortune about it.
Zac Quinn
08-02-2014
Originally Posted by F1Ken:
“I was quite impressed by that rating, it started at half 3 so it wasn't going to get enormous ratings.”

Hmmm. Regardless of start time I expected the level of attention it's got in the news recently to push it at least towards 4m. Obviously far too optimistic.
Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“When did you stop watching?

The point is that-at its peak, it was Cowell driving the whole thing. To me that's undeniable, and the drop off in viewers and spark over the last three years is largely down to the fact the show simply became bland without him. I cant say Im a huge fan, but people tuned because they liked him-and because they hated him(in a pantomime sense maybe). A pretty powerful combination for ratings.

Ofcourse there is no guarantee of further success, but its no surprise ITV are so keen to get him back on the scene.”

We started drifting away from the show without realising it during the 'peak' 2010 series, then at the end of that series we looked back on it and just thought "that was so ridiculously manipulative, we're never ever going to watch that again", and indeed we never have. I remember the moment when One Direction got knocked out and our whole living room burst out laughing at Cowell's face because it was so clear that he'd believed his own self-generated hype about how they were such certainties to win. That level of manipulation isn't going to go away because Cowell is back working full-time on the show, if anything it'll increase right back to 2010 levels again and maybe even beyond if he doesn't get the results he wants. If the BBC stick Doctor Who against X Factor this year I would be very surprised if there was much of an increase for the latter at all, and if there was the 2m increase which someone on here suggested last night I think I'd faint.
Charnham
08-02-2014
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Sometimes money can sway people's decisions. Itv are potentially offering her 4 times as much money to do the same kind of job. That must be tempting for anyone. But I think Susanna has integrity and loyalty so am optimistic she wont be swayed by the $$$.”

in this case however, her integrity will be shot the moment she takes the money, thanks to Daybreak and whats her name (seriously, what was her name?) that money is a poison chalice.
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