Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“Wow, they have given it all of 15 mins!”
“Wow, they have given it all of 15 mins!”
Thats the attention span of the average twitterer.
The Ratings Thread (Part 57)
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Originally Posted by Andy23:
“It no coincidence that between EastEnders and Waterloo Road they advertised "Drama on CBBC and CBBC HD"
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“It no coincidence that between EastEnders and Waterloo Road they advertised "Drama on CBBC and CBBC HD"
”
They've chosen to advertise their younger skewing shows between two shows that attract younger viewers. How shocking. Bit desperate, Andy. Every day your posts become more and more like Samuel's.
Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“And perhaps you overpredicting on purpose as well?”
“And perhaps you overpredicting on purpose as well?”
Not at all. If DOI can get almost 7m and is now classed as a flop - following a huge marketing campaign, The Voice should be able to get 8m against much easier competition. Splash and TMO are hardly BGT.
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“The Voice should be launching closer to 8m like series 1.”
“The Voice should be launching closer to 8m like series 1.”
I am not so sure. I see the logic but 8m+ overnight shows are very rare and The Voice has a tarnished brand. It should do better but 7m overnight consolidating to 8m+ would be very good and a big increase on its own. I dont think you can just ignore all that has happened to the show and the ratings in the past.
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“It no coincidence that between EastEnders and Waterloo Road they advertised "Drama on CBBC and CBBC HD"”
“It no coincidence that between EastEnders and Waterloo Road they advertised "Drama on CBBC and CBBC HD"
”
Substantial child audiences for both, still...
Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“I am not so sure. I see the logic but 8m+ overnight shows are very rare and The Voice has a tarnished brand. It should do better but 7m overnight consolidating to 8m+ would be very good and a big increase on its own. I dont think you can just ignore all that has happened to the show and the ratings in the past.”
“I am not so sure. I see the logic but 8m+ overnight shows are very rare and The Voice has a tarnished brand. It should do better but 7m overnight consolidating to 8m+ would be very good and a big increase on its own. I dont think you can just ignore all that has happened to the show and the ratings in the past.”
Last year away from BGT, The Voice got a high 7m figure and 9m in the finals for some Blind Auditions. It should be aiming for slightly higher plus it is January. So I still think 8m is the target.
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“It no coincidence that between EastEnders and Waterloo Road they advertised "Drama on CBBC and CBBC HD"”
“It no coincidence that between EastEnders and Waterloo Road they advertised "Drama on CBBC and CBBC HD"
”
You watched the BBC!?!
Originally Posted by guestofseth:
“They've chosen to advertise their younger skewing shows between two shows that attract younger viewers. How shocking. Bit desperate, Andy. Every day your posts become more and more like Samuel's.”
“They've chosen to advertise their younger skewing shows between two shows that attract younger viewers. How shocking. Bit desperate, Andy. Every day your posts become more and more like Samuel's.”
Samuel is Bagpuss and Andy is like the other toys in the shop. When Samuel appears so does Andy. It's quite endearing really to have a fan follow you around like that.
4.25m consolidated for New Year's Eve Holby, up from 3.75m (18.5%) overnight which included River City. Big timeshift; it normally only just about manages to equal the overnight in the officials, making up for ~400k lost Scots by adding about the same number of recordings.
Incidentally, that episode of Holby was shown in Scotland before the rest of the UK, at 23:15 on Monday 30th.
Incidentally, that episode of Holby was shown in Scotland before the rest of the UK, at 23:15 on Monday 30th.
An update regarding the promising new US sci-fi drama Helix. January 20th is now 100% confirmed to be the UK launch date, and Channel 5 will be showing a double episode premiere as well, same as SyFy in the States. Bit On The Side will be going out abnormally late as a result.
Shame from a ratings point-of-view as a lot of people will now timeshift it.
Quote:
“Monday 20 Jan 2014
21:00 CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER
22:00 NEW: HELIX
23:50 CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER'S BIT ON THE SIDE
00:50 CAMPUS P.D.”
“Monday 20 Jan 2014
21:00 CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER
22:00 NEW: HELIX
23:50 CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER'S BIT ON THE SIDE
00:50 CAMPUS P.D.”
Shame from a ratings point-of-view as a lot of people will now timeshift it.
I'm so pleased that the 7.39 managed to perform well across Monday and Tuesday, with it managing to hold onto all its audience across Parts 1 and 2. It was a brilliant drama, well written with some brilliant acting.
I was basically highlighting that Waterloo Road obviously has a large children skew, which will be why it keeps getting commissioned, the complete opposite to normal BBC1 drama. (Probably because the older more discerning BBC1 viewer has long since realised how poor it is thesedays)
No criticism of EastEnders at this point.
No criticism of EastEnders at this point.
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“God, that's a depressing list - makes TV seem even worse than it is.”
“God, that's a depressing list - makes TV seem even worse than it is.”
Depressing for ITV - only four out of the day's top 20 shares, even including +1. Oh well, it was a Tuesday.
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“I was basically highlighting that Waterloo Road obviously has a large children skew, which will be why it keeps getting commissioned, the complete opposite to normal BBC1 drama. (Probably because the older more discerning BBC1 viewer has long since realised how poor it is thesedays)
No criticism of EastEnders at this point.”
“I was basically highlighting that Waterloo Road obviously has a large children skew, which will be why it keeps getting commissioned, the complete opposite to normal BBC1 drama. (Probably because the older more discerning BBC1 viewer has long since realised how poor it is thesedays)
No criticism of EastEnders at this point.”
That's the only reason. I'm fairly young but have finished school and all that but still most people I know do watch it. It's young demos are fantastic, if I remember from a chart someone posted they showed me why it keeps getting commissioned. Tonight's episode was a great improvement over the last few episodes, due to:
Spoiler
Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“I am not so sure. I see the logic but 8m+ overnight shows are very rare and The Voice has a tarnished brand. It should do better but 7m overnight consolidating to 8m+ would be very good and a big increase on its own. I dont think you can just ignore all that has happened to the show and the ratings in the past.”
“I am not so sure. I see the logic but 8m+ overnight shows are very rare and The Voice has a tarnished brand. It should do better but 7m overnight consolidating to 8m+ would be very good and a big increase on its own. I dont think you can just ignore all that has happened to the show and the ratings in the past.”
As much as people talk about The Voice being a tainted brand its worth remembering that the series two final (in the middle of June) finished up with just shy of 8 million viewers so clearly audiences haven't completely abandoned the show. In truth the changes to the coaching line-up should have been enough to see it open up year-on-year even its old slot but couple that with the move to January and the resulting weaker competition then the potential is certainly there for it to open substantially bigger than it did last year. That doesn't mean that it will of course. The Voice is a tricky beast to predict right now.
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“An update regarding the promising new US sci-fi drama Helix. January 20th is now 100% confirmed to be the UK launch date, and Channel 5 will be showing a double episode premiere as well, same as SyFy in the States. Bit On The Side will be going out abnormally late as a result.
Shame from a ratings point-of-view as a lot of people will now timeshift it.”
“An update regarding the promising new US sci-fi drama Helix. January 20th is now 100% confirmed to be the UK launch date, and Channel 5 will be showing a double episode premiere as well, same as SyFy in the States. Bit On The Side will be going out abnormally late as a result.
Shame from a ratings point-of-view as a lot of people will now timeshift it.”
So are they showing it on the EPG as
22:00 Helix
23:00 Helix
Or just as two episodes moulded together? If the latter, your right it will be disappointing ratings wise no doubt about it. I see Canadian drama Played is now scheduled for 17 January at 10pm on 5USA, looks great from the promo I must say!
On another note, I actually think Waterloo Road will dent CBB in the first thirty minutes of tonight's show. Both want the younger demographics.
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Last year away from BGT, The Voice got a high 7m figure and 9m in the finals for some Blind Auditions. It should be aiming for slightly higher plus it is January. So I still think 8m is the target.”
“Last year away from BGT, The Voice got a high 7m figure and 9m in the finals for some Blind Auditions. It should be aiming for slightly higher plus it is January. So I still think 8m is the target.”
It would need around a 35% share to get 8m (if my sums are right), surely that should be fairly achievable opposite Splash rater that Takeaway?
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“An update regarding the promising new US sci-fi drama Helix. January 20th is now 100% confirmed to be the UK launch date, and Channel 5 will be showing a double episode premiere as well, same as SyFy in the States. Bit On The Side will be going out abnormally late as a result.... Shame from a ratings point-of-view as a lot of people will now timeshift it.”
“An update regarding the promising new US sci-fi drama Helix. January 20th is now 100% confirmed to be the UK launch date, and Channel 5 will be showing a double episode premiere as well, same as SyFy in the States. Bit On The Side will be going out abnormally late as a result.... Shame from a ratings point-of-view as a lot of people will now timeshift it.”
While I can see why they've opened with the double episode its a peculiar decision and highlights one of the downsides to the Big Brother platform. Could they not have put the double episode on consecutive nights? What do they have lined up for the 21st another Autopsy doc?
Overnight and official ratings for Series 1 and 2 of The Voice.
I personally believe that if the first episode doesn't rate between 7.5-8 million considering the amount of promotion then something isn't right.
I personally believe that if the first episode doesn't rate between 7.5-8 million considering the amount of promotion then something isn't right.
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Series 1 Show Date Overnight Rating Official Rating Blind Auditions 1 24 March 2012 8.43m (37.6%) 9.44m (+1.01m) Blind Auditions 2 31 March 2012 9.00m (39.3%) 9.93m (+0.93m) Blind Auditions 3 07 April 2012 9.54m (41.1%) 10.71m (+1.17m) Blind Auditions 4 14 April 2012 10.68m (45.5%) 11.99m (+1.31m) Battle Rounds 1 21 April 2012 9.89m (42.3%) 11.24m (+1.35m) Battle Rounds 2 22 April 2012 10.09m (38.5%) 10.98m (+0.89m) Live Show 1 28 April 2012 9.33m (41.8%) 10.51m (+1.18m) Results 1 29 April 2012 8.62m (35.1%) 9.17m (+0.55m) Live Show 2 05 May 2012 8.16m (35.6%) 9.36m (+1.20m) Results 2 06 May 2012 6.53m (30.3%) 7.24m (+0.71m) Live Show 3 12 May 2012 5.64m (29.4%) 6.54m (+0.90m) Results 3 13 May 2012 6.20m (26.4%) 6.75m (+0.55m) Live Show 4 19 May 2012 5.68m (27.9%) 6.79m (+1.11m) Results 4 20 May 2012 5.80m (26.2%) 6.28m (+0.48m) Live Show 5 26 May 2012 4.49m (28.8%) 5.25m (+0.76m) Results 5 27 May 2012 4.68m (26.5%) 5.14m (+0.46m) The Final 02 June 2012 7.14m (34.2%) 7.82m (+0.68m) Averages 7.64m (34.5%) 8.54m (+0.90m)
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Series 2 Show Date Overnight Rating Official Rating Blind Auditions 1 30 March 2013 6.24m (26.9%) 7.47m (+1.23m) Blind Auditions 2 06 April 2013 6.43m (28.5%) 7.58m (+1.15m) Blind Auditions 3 13 April 2013 6.67m (26.8%) 7.82m (+1.15m) Blind Auditions 4 20 April 2013 7.92m (34.0%) 9.50m (+1.58m) Blind Auditions 5 27 April 2013 7.97m (35.5%) 9.07m (+1.10m) Blind Auditions 6 04 May 2013 7.99m (35.3%) 9.27m (+1.28m) Battle Rounds 1 11 May 2013 7.37m (31.8%) 8.86m (+1.49m) Battle Rounds 2 12 May 2013 7.05m (30.4%) 7.82m (+0.77m) Battle Rounds 3 25 May 2013 5.89m (29.7%) 6.95m (+1.06m) Knockout Rounds 1 01 June 2013 5.73m (26.5%) 6.74m (+1.01m) Knockout Rounds 2 02 June 2013 5.67m (27.0%) 6.36m (+0.69m) Live Show 1 07 June 2013 4.21m (21.7%) 5.14m (+0.93m) Live Results 1 07 June 2013 3.91m (19.3%) 4.74m (+0.83m) Live Show 2 15 June 2013 5.81m (28.1%) 6.55m (+0.74m) The Final 22 June 2013 7.24m (34.8%) 7.95m (+0.71m) Averages 6.41m (29.1%) 7.45m (+1.04m)
Originally Posted by Nine-Nine:
“That's the only reason. I'm fairly young but have finished school and all that but still most people I know do watch it. It's young demos are fantastic, if I remember from a chart someone posted they showed me why it keeps getting commissioned. Tonight's episode was a great improvement over the last few episodes, due to:
”
“That's the only reason. I'm fairly young but have finished school and all that but still most people I know do watch it. It's young demos are fantastic, if I remember from a chart someone posted they showed me why it keeps getting commissioned. Tonight's episode was a great improvement over the last few episodes, due to:
Spoiler
I'm fairly young too and everyone I speak to watches it as well. It does seem to have a loyal young following despite not being all that popular with the public at large.
"The Voice" will do really well in its new position. "Splash" is not going to give it competition after all if last weeks opening episide is anything to go by so it looks like "The Voice" is going to have an easy start for the first time in its history on BBC One. It could easily get 8 to 9 million in a cold winter slot. Its been broadcasting while the sun shines for its past two seasons so its bound to do well
Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“Overnight and official ratings for Series 1 and 2 of The Voice.
I personally believe that if the first episode doesn't rate between 7.5-8 million considering the amount of promotion then something isn't right.”
“Overnight and official ratings for Series 1 and 2 of The Voice.
I personally believe that if the first episode doesn't rate between 7.5-8 million considering the amount of promotion then something isn't right.”
I agree. 7.5m should be the minimum for The Voice in terms of a launch overnight. And it also needs to try and keep viewers after the Blind Auditions end.
Originally Posted by Nine-Nine:
“That's the only reason. I'm fairly young but have finished school and all that but still most people I know do watch it. It's young demos are fantastic, if I remember from a chart someone posted they showed me why it keeps getting commissioned.”
“That's the only reason. I'm fairly young but have finished school and all that but still most people I know do watch it. It's young demos are fantastic, if I remember from a chart someone posted they showed me why it keeps getting commissioned.”
Originally Posted by xeo:
“I'm fairly young too and everyone I speak to watches it as well. It does seem to have a loyal young following despite not being all that popular with the public at large.”
“I'm fairly young too and everyone I speak to watches it as well. It does seem to have a loyal young following despite not being all that popular with the public at large.”
A reminder of Waterloo Road's demos (from rzt's chart covering the episode on Thursday 10 October 2013):
C4-15: 491k (16% skew)
16-34: 649k (21%)
35-44: 458k (15%)
45-54: 499k (17%)
55-64: 293k (10%)
65+: 630k (21%)
Total: 3.02m (100%)
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“I agree. 7.5m should be the minimum for The Voice in terms of a launch overnight. And it also needs to try and keep viewers after the Blind Auditions end.”
“I agree. 7.5m should be the minimum for The Voice in terms of a launch overnight. And it also needs to try and keep viewers after the Blind Auditions end.”
To their credit the live shows did grow week-on-week last year although admittedly there was only three of them. The Voice is a bit of an odd show in general because the final both years has rated noticeably better than the shows that precede it in the run which would suggest the audience is still interested and paying attention even if they aren't watching.
Originally Posted by AlexiR:
“To their credit the live shows did grow week-on-week last year although admittedly there was only three of them. The Voice is a bit of an odd show in general because the final both years has rated noticeably better than the shows that precede it in the run which would suggest the audience is still interested and paying attention even if they aren't watching.”
“To their credit the live shows did grow week-on-week last year although admittedly there was only three of them. The Voice is a bit of an odd show in general because the final both years has rated noticeably better than the shows that precede it in the run which would suggest the audience is still interested and paying attention even if they aren't watching.”
It's just a very odd show in general. I'd have happily banked my savings on the show dying after it lost out to Takeaway for its Series 2 premiere. It then went and grew 3 or 4 weeks on the trot, including the week it wound up head-to-head with BGT! And as you say. It's revived itself from the apparent dead for both of its finales so far, too. Just weird, quite frankly, so I'll be avoiding any bold statements about it on Sunday morning!
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