Looking at the ratings for The Voice posted above you know it would not take that much to get up to XF levels if it really got a roll on. That would be fun on here.
The Ratings Thread (Part 57)
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Originally Posted by sn_22:
“It's just a very odd show in general. I'd have happily banked my savings on the show dying after it lost out to Takeaway for its Series 2 premiere. It then went and grew 3 or 4 weeks on the trot, including the week it wound up head-to-head with BGT! And as you say. It's revived itself from the apparent dead for both of its finales so far, too. Just weird, quite frankly, so I'll be avoiding any bold statements about it on Sunday morning!”
“It's just a very odd show in general. I'd have happily banked my savings on the show dying after it lost out to Takeaway for its Series 2 premiere. It then went and grew 3 or 4 weeks on the trot, including the week it wound up head-to-head with BGT! And as you say. It's revived itself from the apparent dead for both of its finales so far, too. Just weird, quite frankly, so I'll be avoiding any bold statements about it on Sunday morning!”
The Voice has certainly been something of a rollercoaster over the past two years. Rather fantastic from the perspective of this thread though and a pure ratings perspective because you can never be entirely sure what on earth you're going to get from it each week. The launch can land just about anywhere on the spectrum this weekend without it being a complete shock and there's not really any other show you can say that about at this point.
Originally Posted by Nine-Nine:
“So are they showing it on the EPG as
22:00 Helix
23:00 Helix
Or just as two episodes moulded together?”
“So are they showing it on the EPG as
22:00 Helix
23:00 Helix
Or just as two episodes moulded together?”
I'd imagine the EPG will just show it as one feature-length episode, same as the listings they've sent out to press.
Originally Posted by Nine-Nine:
“I see Canadian drama Played is now scheduled for 17 January at 10pm on 5USA, looks great from the promo I must say!”
“I see Canadian drama Played is now scheduled for 17 January at 10pm on 5USA, looks great from the promo I must say!”
It does. I will be watching.
I haven't caught up with Longmire yet but looking at 5USA's share yesterday (0.7%) it probably didn't do very well. This one didn't seem to get promoted much outside of 5USA itself, whereas Played is being trailed a lot even on C5.
Originally Posted by Nine-Nine:
“On another note, I actually think Waterloo Road will dent CBB in the first thirty minutes of tonight's show. Both want the younger demographics.”
“On another note, I actually think Waterloo Road will dent CBB in the first thirty minutes of tonight's show. Both want the younger demographics.”
Probably. That and it was a 90 minute episode with lots of filler like voting numbers.
Originally Posted by AlexiR:
“While I can see why they've opened with the double episode its a peculiar decision and highlights one of the downsides to the Big Brother platform. Could they not have put the double episode on consecutive nights? What do they have lined up for the 21st another Autopsy doc?”
“While I can see why they've opened with the double episode its a peculiar decision and highlights one of the downsides to the Big Brother platform. Could they not have put the double episode on consecutive nights? What do they have lined up for the 21st another Autopsy doc?”
Yes. The last in the series.
Originally Posted by xeo:
“I'm fairly young too and everyone I speak to watches it as well. It does seem to have a loyal young following despite not being all that popular with the public at large.”
“I'm fairly young too and everyone I speak to watches it as well. It does seem to have a loyal young following despite not being all that popular with the public at large.”
Absolutely agree. I've watched since the first series!!
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“I'd imagine the EPG will just show it as one feature-length episode, same as the listings they've sent out to press.
It does. I will be watching.
I haven't caught up with Longmire yet but looking at 5USA's share yesterday (0.7%) it probably didn't do very well. This one didn't seem to get promoted much outside of 5USA itself, whereas Played is being trailed a lot even on C5.
Probably. That and it was a 90 minute episode with lots of filler like voting numbers.
Yes. The last in the series.”
“I'd imagine the EPG will just show it as one feature-length episode, same as the listings they've sent out to press.
It does. I will be watching.
I haven't caught up with Longmire yet but looking at 5USA's share yesterday (0.7%) it probably didn't do very well. This one didn't seem to get promoted much outside of 5USA itself, whereas Played is being trailed a lot even on C5.
Probably. That and it was a 90 minute episode with lots of filler like voting numbers.
Yes. The last in the series.”
Oh that sort of sucks for ratings. Hopefully it holds up. I didn't even see Longmire scheduled which says it all really, I'm sure they'll repeat it. Autopsy did very well.
I found this interesting! People attempting to break record of binge viewing, (watching TV nonstop for as long as possible basically)
Article: http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2014/01/...d-attempt.html :P
Article: http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2014/01/...d-attempt.html :P
Following up on rzt's post in the old thread:
Splitting out the main channels you get the following:
BBC One: 21.0% (–0.3% on 2012)
BBC Two: 5.7% (–0.4%)
ITV: 15.3% exc +1 (+0.4%); 16.2% inc +1 (+0.5%)
Channel 4: 4.9% exc +1 (–0.7%); 5.8% inc +1 (–0.7%)
Channel 5: 4.1% exc +1 (–0.1%); 4.4% inc +1 (no change)
Change (in % points) for BBC One from 2012 to 2013 by month:
Jan: +1.5% (start of daytime changes)
Feb: +0.5%
Mar: +1.3%
Apr: +0.2%
May: –0.3%
Jun: –2.7% (no Jubilee/Euros)
Jul: –1.3% (no Euros/Olympics)
Aug: –6.2% (no Olympics)
Sep: +1.2% (no Paralympics)
Oct: +0.2%
Nov: +1.3%
Dec: +0.4%
Quote:
“And here's a look at how the broadcasters averaged for the whole of 2013 vs. 2012:
BBC: 32.5% (2012: 33.4%)
ITV: 23.1% (22.5%)
CH4: 11.0% (11.5%)
CH5: 6.0% (6.0%)
ITV (+3.0%) managed its best family annual share since 2009. Channel 5 to two decimal places (6.04% v 6.01%) was also up year-on-year by +0.6% with their best share since 2009 too. The BBC (-2.8%) and Channel 4 (-4.1%) both slipped to their lowest annual family shares since at least 2004.”
“And here's a look at how the broadcasters averaged for the whole of 2013 vs. 2012:
BBC: 32.5% (2012: 33.4%)
ITV: 23.1% (22.5%)
CH4: 11.0% (11.5%)
CH5: 6.0% (6.0%)
ITV (+3.0%) managed its best family annual share since 2009. Channel 5 to two decimal places (6.04% v 6.01%) was also up year-on-year by +0.6% with their best share since 2009 too. The BBC (-2.8%) and Channel 4 (-4.1%) both slipped to their lowest annual family shares since at least 2004.”
Splitting out the main channels you get the following:
BBC One: 21.0% (–0.3% on 2012)
BBC Two: 5.7% (–0.4%)
ITV: 15.3% exc +1 (+0.4%); 16.2% inc +1 (+0.5%)
Channel 4: 4.9% exc +1 (–0.7%); 5.8% inc +1 (–0.7%)
Channel 5: 4.1% exc +1 (–0.1%); 4.4% inc +1 (no change)
Change (in % points) for BBC One from 2012 to 2013 by month:
Jan: +1.5% (start of daytime changes)
Feb: +0.5%
Mar: +1.3%
Apr: +0.2%
May: –0.3%
Jun: –2.7% (no Jubilee/Euros)
Jul: –1.3% (no Euros/Olympics)
Aug: –6.2% (no Olympics)
Sep: +1.2% (no Paralympics)
Oct: +0.2%
Nov: +1.3%
Dec: +0.4%
Originally Posted by AlexiR:
“The Voice has certainly been something of a rollercoaster over the past two years. Rather fantastic from the perspective of this thread though and a pure ratings perspective because you can never be entirely sure what on earth you're going to get from it each week. The launch can land just about anywhere on the spectrum this weekend without it being a complete shock and there's not really any other show you can say that about at this point.”
“The Voice has certainly been something of a rollercoaster over the past two years. Rather fantastic from the perspective of this thread though and a pure ratings perspective because you can never be entirely sure what on earth you're going to get from it each week. The launch can land just about anywhere on the spectrum this weekend without it being a complete shock and there's not really any other show you can say that about at this point.”
We also know whatever it gets that the same old arguments will be on here on Sunday morning.
Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“Following up on rzt's post in the old thread:
Splitting out the main channels you get the following:
BBC One: 21.0% (–0.3% on 2012)
BBC Two: 5.7% (–0.4%)
ITV: 15.3% exc +1 (+0.4%); 16.2% inc +1 (+0.5%)
Channel 4: 4.9% exc +1 (–0.7%); 5.8% inc +1 (–0.7%)
Channel 5: 4.1% exc +1 (–0.1%); 4.4% inc +1 (no change)
Change (in % points) for BBC One from 2012 to 2013 by month:
Jan: +1.5% (start of daytime changes)
Feb: +0.5%
Mar: +1.3%
Apr: +0.2%
May: –0.3%
Jun: –2.7% (no Jubilee)
Jul: –1.3% (no Olympics)
Aug: –6.2% (no Olympics)
Sep: +1.2% (no Paralympics)
Oct: +0.2%
Nov: +1.3%
Dec: +0.4%”
“Following up on rzt's post in the old thread:
Splitting out the main channels you get the following:
BBC One: 21.0% (–0.3% on 2012)
BBC Two: 5.7% (–0.4%)
ITV: 15.3% exc +1 (+0.4%); 16.2% inc +1 (+0.5%)
Channel 4: 4.9% exc +1 (–0.7%); 5.8% inc +1 (–0.7%)
Channel 5: 4.1% exc +1 (–0.1%); 4.4% inc +1 (no change)
Change (in % points) for BBC One from 2012 to 2013 by month:
Jan: +1.5% (start of daytime changes)
Feb: +0.5%
Mar: +1.3%
Apr: +0.2%
May: –0.3%
Jun: –2.7% (no Jubilee)
Jul: –1.3% (no Olympics)
Aug: –6.2% (no Olympics)
Sep: +1.2% (no Paralympics)
Oct: +0.2%
Nov: +1.3%
Dec: +0.4%”
Just how did BBC1 manage to go up in September and November when they showed almost nothing? - I mean they were really thin the whole of Autumn.
Channel 4's lead over Channel 5 (% points, inc +1s):
Code:
1997 +8.3 1998 +6.0 1999 +4.9 2000 +4.8 2001 +4.2 2002 +3.7 2003 +3.1 2004 +3.1 2005 +3.3 2006 +4.1 2007 +3.7 2008 +3.2 2009 +2.6 2010 +2.5 2011 +2.4 2012 +2.1 2013 +1.4
Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“Just how did BBC1 manage to go up in September and November when they showed almost nothing? - I mean they were really thin the whole of Autumn.”
“Just how did BBC1 manage to go up in September and November when they showed almost nothing? - I mean they were really thin the whole of Autumn.”
Daytime is bumping up overall audience share.
Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“We also know whatever it gets that the same old arguments will be on here on Sunday morning.”
“We also know whatever it gets that the same old arguments will be on here on Sunday morning.”
If it doesn't get over 7.5m the press will have a field day.
Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“Just how did BBC1 manage to go up in September and November when they showed almost nothing? - I mean they were really thin the whole of Autumn.”
“Just how did BBC1 manage to go up in September and November when they showed almost nothing? - I mean they were really thin the whole of Autumn.”
Remember with the daytime changes the baseline for BBC One was to be up on 2012 (away from Jubilee/Olympic/Euro 2012 months). September was boosted by not facing the Paralympics this year. October was fairly thin on drama IIRC and this probably contributed to a low rise on 2012: without the daytime revamp that might well have been down on the year before. November was really when the drama kicked in, wasn't it, with Last Tango and so on.
I could laugh at the draft schedules I composed with drama five or six nights a week throughout autumn! They've held so much back (or a lot of stuff has been delayed unintentionally).
Originally Posted by sn_22:
“It's just a very odd show in general. I'd have happily banked my savings on the show dying after it lost out to Takeaway for its Series 2 premiere. It then went and grew 3 or 4 weeks on the trot, including the week it wound up head-to-head with BGT! And as you say. It's revived itself from the apparent dead for both of its finales so far, too. Just weird, quite frankly, so I'll be avoiding any bold statements about it on Sunday morning!”
“It's just a very odd show in general. I'd have happily banked my savings on the show dying after it lost out to Takeaway for its Series 2 premiere. It then went and grew 3 or 4 weeks on the trot, including the week it wound up head-to-head with BGT! And as you say. It's revived itself from the apparent dead for both of its finales so far, too. Just weird, quite frankly, so I'll be avoiding any bold statements about it on Sunday morning!”
And it actually rated higher than Takeaway.
Originally Posted by AlexiR:
“Not a stellar launch but it certainly could have been much worse. To be honest I'm not sure why they're moving it from this slot. NCIS: LA has to cut the cord and move away from the mothership at some point and in theory an established show probably stands a better chance in that Monday 10PM slot. I can't help but think they're going to move Intelligence to its death in that slot. It'll have a poor lead-in and face pretty difficult competition. Although I suppose CBS is hoping that The Blacklist stumbles badly with no Voice lead-in next week.”
“Not a stellar launch but it certainly could have been much worse. To be honest I'm not sure why they're moving it from this slot. NCIS: LA has to cut the cord and move away from the mothership at some point and in theory an established show probably stands a better chance in that Monday 10PM slot. I can't help but think they're going to move Intelligence to its death in that slot. It'll have a poor lead-in and face pretty difficult competition. Although I suppose CBS is hoping that The Blacklist stumbles badly with no Voice lead-in next week.”
I think CBS should move NCIS LA to Mondays and keep Intelligence on Tuesdays. The show itself I think it would be great for Channel 5 as its compatible with what they've got although not sure where it would go apart from Tuesdays at 10pm or maybe Saturday.
The fireworks rating (or lack of it) is a peculiar one. Didn't we get an update from YOG regarding consolidation for the firework segment?
Also, Im assuming the 8.8 million does actually include the increased firework period as GB did rate pretty well in its own right iirc.
Also, Im assuming the 8.8 million does actually include the increased firework period as GB did rate pretty well in its own right iirc.
What suprises me with the voice is how they extended series 2 to 14 weeks from 12 before. I know they actually decreased the life shows, but to extend a series after a first series lost half of its viewers is pretty bizarre! Do we know if there will be Sunday episodes this year, if not the series won't finish till April! The mad thing about this year if the voice picks up this year and say stabilises in the eights, it will change the dynamics of the big talent shows, with doi finishing, bbc1 would have more weekends of big hitting entertainment tv, yes it would be close, but incredibly it would make bbc and itv even more level....
League 1
Strictly, bgt
League 2
X factor, the voice
League 1
Strictly, bgt
League 2
X factor, the voice
Originally Posted by gavin shipman:
“I'm guessing The Voice launch will get around 9million.”
“I'm guessing The Voice launch will get around 9million.”
And then will drop of accordingly. I think it may have good ratings on the first night as people will want to see Kylie.
Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“The fireworks rating (or lack of it) is a peculiar one. Didn't we get an update from YOG regarding consolidation for the firework segment?”
“The fireworks rating (or lack of it) is a peculiar one. Didn't we get an update from YOG regarding consolidation for the firework segment?”
Yes, but his figures were based on the overnight timings, i.e. the 15-minute fireworks programme as per the listings. It will probably go back to the standalone fireworks slot in the six-week amendment cycle.
Quote:
“Also, Im assuming the 8.8 million does actually include the increased firework period as GB did rate pretty well in its own right iirc”
“Also, Im assuming the 8.8 million does actually include the increased firework period as GB did rate pretty well in its own right iirc”
Yes it includes Gary parts 1 and 2 and the fireworks in the sandwich.
Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“Following up on rzt's post in the old thread:
Splitting out the main channels you get the following:
BBC One: 21.0% (–0.3% on 2012)
BBC Two: 5.7% (–0.4%)
ITV: 15.3% exc +1 (+0.4%); 16.2% inc +1 (+0.5%)
Channel 4: 4.9% exc +1 (–0.7%); 5.8% inc +1 (–0.7%)
Channel 5: 4.1% exc +1 (–0.1%); 4.4% inc +1 (no change)
Change (in % points) for BBC One from 2012 to 2013 by month:
Jan: +1.5% (start of daytime changes)
Feb: +0.5%
Mar: +1.3%
Apr: +0.2%
May: –0.3%
Jun: –2.7% (no Jubilee/Euros)
Jul: –1.3% (no Euros/Olympics)
Aug: –6.2% (no Olympics)
Sep: +1.2% (no Paralympics)
Oct: +0.2%
Nov: +1.3%
Dec: +0.4%”
“Following up on rzt's post in the old thread:
Splitting out the main channels you get the following:
BBC One: 21.0% (–0.3% on 2012)
BBC Two: 5.7% (–0.4%)
ITV: 15.3% exc +1 (+0.4%); 16.2% inc +1 (+0.5%)
Channel 4: 4.9% exc +1 (–0.7%); 5.8% inc +1 (–0.7%)
Channel 5: 4.1% exc +1 (–0.1%); 4.4% inc +1 (no change)
Change (in % points) for BBC One from 2012 to 2013 by month:
Jan: +1.5% (start of daytime changes)
Feb: +0.5%
Mar: +1.3%
Apr: +0.2%
May: –0.3%
Jun: –2.7% (no Jubilee/Euros)
Jul: –1.3% (no Euros/Olympics)
Aug: –6.2% (no Olympics)
Sep: +1.2% (no Paralympics)
Oct: +0.2%
Nov: +1.3%
Dec: +0.4%”
Really interesting that ITV was up, and BBC One was up for eight out of 12 months. Are we now seeing the end of the decline after years of movement to smaller digital channels?
Just to note BBC One, whilst down 0.3% on 2012, was up 0.3% on 2011. It also had its best December, in terms of share, since 2008.
Originally Posted by ronant:
“Really interesting that ITV was up, and BBC One was up for eight out of 12 months. Are we now seeing the end of the decline after years of movement to smaller digital channels?”
“Really interesting that ITV was up, and BBC One was up for eight out of 12 months. Are we now seeing the end of the decline after years of movement to smaller digital channels?”
I remember you saying a few weeks back that the number of 12/13m plus shows was going up. I think digital viewing has plateaued and decline in viewing of the main channels has slowed down. M
ake the shows and the viewers will come.
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“I can see Waterloo Road getting 4m tonight. Better slot, better lead in, worse competition, ratings higher at this time of year across the board. If it holds up over the next few weeks, the BBC may commission another 20 episodes!”
“I can see Waterloo Road getting 4m tonight. Better slot, better lead in, worse competition, ratings higher at this time of year across the board. If it holds up over the next few weeks, the BBC may commission another 20 episodes!”
They are already making some more in the spring according to an interview I saw with Laurie Brett earlier in the week.
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