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I seriously considered writing out an entire thread prior to broadcast in each of your voices so confident was I that I could capture exactly the moans and groans and the nonsense that would follow. Depressingly it's all pretty much as I predicted. Kinda have to wonder why you even bother to watch the programme any more given that your 'review' is already written long before the opening credits see the light of day.
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Well this had the benefit of being a lot more coherent than than recent episodes.
Can't help feeling that there was 40 minutes of actual story spread thinly over 90 minutes..it did seem to go on a bit. Sherlock himself got a bit too mawdlin and human for my liking and can't say I saw the point of the dalliance between John and Ms Awful Hair on the bus.,,there didn't seem to be any telegraphed issues with the Watsons marriage so where the hell did that come from ? It was okay other than I'm not clear how Sherlock sussed it was Norbury ? Did Mycroft tell him ? |
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"I just want somebody to bring Sherlock a case and then for him to solve the case" seems to be the prevailing consensus on Twitter.
(Yeah, I guess technically the episode gave us that in the first half an hour, but come on.) |
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Jesus, how bad was that?
Why was the memory stick in a bust of Thatcher (apart from some BBC snowflake indulging a passion for smashing them)? |
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What's predictable is those who would like to silence critical opinion. Nobody ever complains about page after page of unqualified praise but it seems pavlovian with some to moan about others saying they didn't like it.
Quite apart from anything else the "if you don't like it why watch it?" DS refrain is older than God and yet it gets trotted out like some Eureka! moment, as if it's never been uttered before. |
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What's predictable is those who would like to silence critical opinion. Nobody ever complains about page after page of unqualified praise but it seems pavlovian with some to moan about others saying they didn't like it.
Quite apart from anything else the "if you don't like it why watch it?" DS refrain is older than God and yet it gets trotted out like some Eureka! moment, as if it's never been uttered before. |
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People live in hope...knowing how good it once was, which seems a long time ago now...but hope is what makes us watch it...but if it's crap then we will say it's crap.
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Jesus, how bad was that?
Why was the memory stick in a bust of Thatcher (apart from some BBC snowflake indulging a passion for smashing them)? The fact that 6 years ago in Tibilisi, someone should be making busts of Thatcher that all end up here is a bit of a stretch. But then a group of agents all carting round the details of all their secret identities each c whilst going on missions, isn't the brightest idea in the world. |
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It's an odd one alright.
The fact that 6 years ago in Tibilisi, someone should be making busts of Thatcher that all end up here is a bit of a stretch.
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Well this had the benefit of being a lot more coherent than than recent episodes.
Can't help feeling that there was 40 minutes of actual story spread thinly over 90 minutes..it did seem to go on a bit. Sherlock himself got a bit too mawdlin and human for my liking and can't say I saw the point of the dalliance between John and Ms Awful Hair on the bus.,,there didn't seem to be any telegraphed issues with the Watsons marriage so where the hell did that come from ? It was okay other than I'm not clear how Sherlock sussed it was Norbury ? Did Mycroft tell him ? The dalliance was odd, but I can't stand his wife so I have sympathy with him lol. |
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I pretty much agree with all this, Sherlock seems to be a bit too aware these days. I guess it's character development but i'm not sure someone like him would develop this much. He's a bit too cuddly.
The dalliance was odd, but I can't stand his wife so I have sympathy with him lol. |
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Jesus, how bad was that?
Why was the memory stick in a bust of Thatcher (apart from some BBC snowflake indulging a passion for smashing them)? |
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Always dependable, though. Maybe he can redeem the mess this show has become.
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I think the best way to describe it is 'meh'.
There were SOME good parts, SOME great mystery elements but they're constantly drowned under extraneous, indulgent nonsense. The show would be so much better if it went back to being a crime drama (something the creators were once very keen to insist they weren't so I don't hold my breath). I don't mind it being clever and a bit convoluted but there's simply too much there which really isn't needed. A good script editor would have a field day with an episode like this. It lost its way after series 2 and hasn't shown any signs of finding track again since. |
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I pretty much agree with all this, Sherlock seems to be a bit too aware these days. I guess it's character development but i'm not sure someone like him would develop this much. He's a bit too cuddly.
The dalliance was odd, but I can't stand his wife so I have sympathy with him lol. |
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It's an odd one alright.
The fact that 6 years ago in Tibilisi, someone should be making busts of Thatcher that all end up here is a bit of a stretch. |
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Couldn't agree more!
I wouldn't mind so much if they cocked up and ruined their own ideas, but they haven't the wit or intelligence to create their own shows so they ruin existing ones. |
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Jesus, how bad was that?
Why was the memory stick in a bust of Thatcher (apart from some BBC snowflake indulging a passion for smashing them)? |
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A good episode of Spooks.
However this is Sherlock Holmes. Just having him do the 'story of a person by the hairs on their clothes' routine every now and again and having things fall into place does not make a detective story. It's all brilliantly well made, acted and entertaining but long stopped being the detective series of series one and two. You know... Sherlock Holmes! |
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Jesus, how bad was that?
Why was the memory stick in a bust of Thatcher (apart from some BBC snowflake indulging a passion for smashing them)? |
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I pretty much agree with all this, Sherlock seems to be a bit too aware these days. I guess it's character development but i'm not sure someone like him would develop this much. He's a bit too cuddly.
The dalliance was odd, but I can't stand his wife so I have sympathy with him lol. Quote:
Because that's where he hid it? Try reading the original Holmes stories some time. It helps enormously with references.
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The story's based on "The Six Napoleons", they had to pick a modern hate figure, and Thatcher was presumably the name that resonated, hence also the ruse of the Black Pearl of the Borgias.
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The story's based on "The Six Napoleons", they had to pick a modern hate figure, and Thatcher was presumably the name that resonated, hence also the ruse of the Black Pearl of the Borgias.
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Um, well I enjoyed it. Wasn't that keen on the last series (except episode 3; that was pretty good) and the Special was just kind of 'okay', but thought it was very good tonight. Followed it fine and it's interesting to see a bit of character development for Sherlock. Skimmed the last few pages so looks like I'm in a minority on this thread. S'fine. There's some implausible stuff in it (of course) and for some reason I found Mary's 'world trip' v funny (mainly because it reminded me of Monty Python's 'World Hide and Seek Championship' sketch!
) but in fairness that was undercut by Sherlock already being there waiting for her.So yeah; thought it was good stuff myself. |
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You are critical about everything though. The only things you seem to enjoy are BBC 4 documentaries about train spotting or the British countryside. You even moaned about the Peter Pan show yesterday after 10 minutes yet continued to watch it. You are just a professional moaner.
FYI, I have NEVER posted about train-spotting or the British Countryside on or off BBC4 so right there, that proves my point about you inventing guff to score points. Oh, and it's against forum rules to use pejoratives like "hater" and "professional moaner" so sadly you force me to report this. Quote:
It's a bizarre by-product of social media- the rise of the professional hate watcher.
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