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so do we know what's on these memory sticks ?
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It was to get the attention od the cabin crew, in order to give them the feeling that she was an anxious flyer (people who are anxious or scared often talk too much/talk gibberish and American was just a cover). She then did the 'oh my god, I'm dying' routine, knowing that they would take care of her sympathetically. She also picked the member of crew who looked similar enough for her to imitate.
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Yes, I agree - that was my interpretation too.
But why bother with the switch? That made no sense to me other than giving us a mini-reveal of Mary suddenly becoming the stewardess. It was almost like a comedy skit. It was a self-indulgent filler for a story and plot that couldn't fill the time without the padding.(I didn't hate the episode, I just think the show is a bit of a victim of its own success and it shows). Personally, I'm glad she has gone (apart from many inevitable flashbacks). I preferred the series as a modern take on the original books, without the need for it being 'too modern'. The aircraft thing was just to show how random and careful she was being to avoid someone following her (although she missed the most obvious electronic tracking). |
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Yes, I agree - that was my interpretation too.
But why bother with the switch? That made no sense to me other than giving us a mini-reveal of Mary suddenly becoming the stewardess. It was almost like a comedy skit. It was a self-indulgent filler for a story and plot that couldn't fill the time without the padding.(I didn't hate the episode, I just think the show is a bit of a victim of its own success and it shows). If she had stayed dressed as the old woman, the stewardess would still have wanted to go through the proper channels. |
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so do we know what's on these memory sticks ?
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so do we know what's on these memory sticks ?
Yes, a lot of the plot doesn't make real sense because a lot of the trimmings are for amusement value and effect - Sherlock not knowing when to stf up for eg - but I think the major plot points like the memory stick have to be solid otherwise it's just gibberish. |
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it started by saying what happen last time but it was wrong as last time it was about a woman who was dead killing the men in her life
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by the way mary is not dead
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also - what year is this series in now ?
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No I don't think it was (I'm fairly sure I know who it actually was). That's what I was saying. But it was someone chosen specifically to give you pause before making that determination.
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The woman on the bus looked nothing like her
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I liked Mary, but she often seemed like she'd wandered in from another show and I think they wrote themselves into a corner with her a bit. It becomes a very different show when you introduce Jason Bourne into the mix.
John has turned out to be pretty despicable. There's Mary recording this whole video about needing Sherlock to save her beloved husband and he's probably off bonking the vicar from her funeral. |
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Yes. Again. I didn't say it was Mary. I said it was someone deliberately chosen to resemble Mary.
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Really? Take another look. There's one shot where it's almost impossible to believe that it's not her, especially when the nonsense on the airplane is clearly there to suggest that Mary is capable of a disguise so effective that even her own husband couldn't see through it (we know that Sherlock is and she's clearly meant to be a match for him in the spy skills department).
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I'm not enjoying this very bored I think Sherlock is a lot better without too many female characters they kind of ruin it.
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I wonder what the writers were thinking when they added a totally irrelevant baby to the show.
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You said it was almost impossible to believe it's not her, but a) it isn't her and b) I don't think we are supposed to make that leap, especially given the text conversation being shown just as Mary had left the room to tend the baby.
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I'm not enjoying this very bored I think Sherlock is a lot better without too many female characters they kind of ruin it.
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I wonder what the writers were thinking when they added a totally irrelevant baby to the show.
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I wonder what the writers were thinking when they added a totally irrelevant baby to the show.
Happy families and all that
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Having left the room? Evidence in its favour, not the opposite surely?
![]() My point is I don't think the leap is intended, she's not shown taking anything with her and she's unlikely to be sleeping with a phone about her person. If the leap was intended I suspect they would have shown her taking her phone, much as Watson was when he then took the baby. |
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Q1: Do you mean why the receptionist, or why the aquarium? I can't remember why the aquarium (although since it was one of the receptionist's favourite places, it may have been her idea)
Around that time, Sherlock was on the Vauxhall Bridge when he had an epiphany after remembering various comments: "Code names Antarctica, Langdale, Porlock and Love", "You'd be amazed at what a receptionist picks up; they know everything", "the English woman" and "Don't minute any of this." He ran across the bridge, heading towards the MI6 building, which is next to the bridge. That's probably when Sherlock found out where Vivian was because when he arrived at the aquarium, he told Vivian that "Your office said you'd be here." She wasn't a receptionist, though. She worked for the MI6 as Lady Smallwood's secretary. She was at every classified meeting Smallwood attended, presumably to take the minutes of each meeting for her. Edited to correct the number. |
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Once she realised they would discover the truth after seeing them taking Lady Smallwood into custody, she told the office that she was going to the aquarium.
Around that time, Sherlock was on the Vauxhall Bridge when he had an epiphany (after remembering various comments: "Code names Antarctica, Langdale, Porlock and Love", "You'd be amazed at what a receptionist picks up; they know everything", "the English woman" and "Don't minute any of this."). He ran across the bridge, heading towards the MI5 building, which is next to the bridge. That's probably when Sherlock found out where Vivian was. She wasn't a receptionist, though. She worked for the MI5 as Lady Smallwood's secretary. She was at every classified meeting Smallwood attended, presumably to take the minutes of each meeting for her.
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MI6 building, Vauxhall Cross
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I wonder what the writers were thinking when they added a totally irrelevant baby to the show.
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I wonder what the writers were thinking when they added a totally irrelevant baby to the show.
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It was almost like a comedy skit. It was a self-indulgent filler for a story and plot that couldn't fill the time without the padding.