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Name all the characters in Moffats Who and Sherlock. Then name all the characters who have actually been dead and come back to life. And then explain your opinion that Everyone Returns From The Dead.
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If Appledore was such a threat to everyone why didn't they just send James Bond (government assassin) in to take Magnusson out?
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It's just like Moffat's Who, everyone returns from the dead!
![]() The only saving grace is Sherlock and Moriarty have a flashback of how they both survived at the opening of season 4. That would be fantastic. But if not this is even worse than LOST when it comes to answers. Then it would lead to the main question. How does Moffat and Gatiss get away with this storytelling? |
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Redbeard?
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If Appledore was such a threat to everyone why didn't they just send James Bond (government assassin) in to take Magnusson out?
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Really diasppointed. I love Sherlock but this was just too self indulgent on the part of the writers. Very sad.
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Rory. Every week.
Did you watch tonight episode btw? |
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A much stronger, more enjoyable episode this week, imo, but I hope Moriarty's image was just trickery by Mycroft to save Sherlock from his deadly exile - or at least that Moriarty is in Mycroft's employ and is used by him to keep Sherlock on his (Mycroft's) radar...this, for me, would be the only explanation for Moriarty still being alive after Sherlock saw him blow his brains out - that Mycroft and Moriarty were working to get Sherlock out if the country for a while, for some reason.
Anything else would be too far fetched, even for Sherlock, imo. |
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#759 |
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Jeremy Brett's Sherlock Holmes wouldn't tolerate the old Mrs Watson butting in on cases.
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All 3 episodes were disappointing this year but I'll keep watching them as long as they make them.
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Sorry if it's been raised already, but...
what was that fleeting reference by Mycroft to their 'other brother'? |
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I thought that was amazing, gripped through the whole thing, now just feeling sad that its all over!
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So, Sherlock and Moriarty pulled a double-fake-suicide on each other? Jesus Christ almighty, my head...
Still, I loved it! Just gotta survive these next two years... |
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but I hope Moriarty's image was just trickery by Mycroft to save Sherlock from his deadly exile
It was only a moving picture of Moriarty. Doesn't take a resurrection to pull that off. But you never know. |
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For the side kick of a detective, John Watson is remarkably uncurious.
Doesn't care how the person he is is side kick to survived being dead in front of his eyes. Doesn't care what his wife did in her previous life, or what her real name is. Bet he was a boy who didn't pre-squish his Christmas presents. |
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Gatiss : Crikey this is a great story, firing on all cylinders, cleverness, evil personified and real humanity, laughs, thrills the lot.
Moffatt : Yes it's fab. Gatiss : Trouble is I don't really know how to end it. Moffatt : No problem, Chuck any old thing down and then we'll distract everybody by bringing Moriarty back. Gatiss : Will people fall for that. Moffatt : Oh you'd be surprised. |
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Translation: the plot didn't do exactly what I wanted.
There was nothing superhuman in this episode at all. |
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At last - immensely enjoyable.
And I like Mary, so there. Magnusson was deliciously evil. And to cap it off, Moriarty will be back. <huge grin> |
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I normally lurk and rarely post but I need a valve to let of steam.
Series One was fascinating. Series Two was a little plodding and ultimately unsatisfying. Series Three has been complete drivel. Having self congratulatingly killed off Holmes and then brought him back to life again, episode one rips off the plot from 'V from Vendetta' complete the same police detective. Episode two manages to get through 90 minutes without any real detective work, and then this soporific nonsense. The trouble with Sherlock is that it thinks it's clever and spends every waking moment telling you it is, including when it isn't on. Do you remember when Sherlock Holmes actually solved crimes rather then being the cause of them? And then the most obvious plot twist right at the end, because they have nowhere else to go. I cannot wait for Elementary to come back. Cleverness hidden in plain site, plots that rattle along, thoughtful story arcs. And detective work. |
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Redbeard?
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I think a lot of people refuse to accept any sort of character development and just want repeats of the same thing over and over again
As much as I like the procedural side of things and the explanations of how things are done I also find it interesting how the relationships affect who they are as people Sherlock, as much as he may try to avoid it, will clearly be affected by his interactions with other people, be that a good thing or a bad thing Some won't agree but that's my thoughts on the split of those who like it and those who don't |
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Seeing as they didn't show us how Sherlock survived then it wouldn't surprise me if they won't show how Moriarty survived.
The only saving grace is Sherlock and Moriarty have a flashback of how they both survived at the opening of season 4. That would be fantastic. But if not this is even worse than LOST when it comes to answers. Then it would lead to the main question. How does Moffat and Gatiss get away with this storytelling? |
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An enjoyable 90 minutes, sure it can be criticized but I'm willing to tolerate. Makes me want to go read Conan Doyle's stories on my kindle again. No bad thing.
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A much stronger, more enjoyable episode this week, imo, but I hope Moriarty's image was just trickery by Mycroft to save Sherlock from his deadly exile - or at least that Moriarty is in Mycroft's employ and is used by him to keep Sherlock on his (Mycroft's) radar.
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Lindsay Duncan was brilliant and so was Lars Mikkelson (Magnuson, the baddy). Magnuson was like a multi-millionaire I know of, who has spent time in prison. Very believable.
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