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Its already been explained why he killed him - to protect Mary's life. Magnusson was threatening to expose her new identity and whereabouts to people who wanted her dead, calling his bluff and saying publish and be damned wouldn't have worked, nor would having him arrested because there was no evidence, and Mary presumably couldn't expose her current identity to the police anyway.
Killing him was the only option left. |
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Re bib. As I understood it, as he was a powerful newspaper magnate, he could print whatever he wanted, and people would believe him. He didn't have to prove anything.
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See, I consider that the art of a good bit of 'villainous acting'. People who go around acting 'scary' get spotted pretty quickly, it's just not that believable.
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I know this is simplistic, but could it be based on the actress's real name, Amanda (G R) Abbington?
And speaking of nepotism, Moffat casting his own son as young Sherlock was too much. He didn't even have a resemblance to BC. I'm sure they could have found a more appropriate child actor, instead of literally keeping it in the family. In the last few years I've tended to feel that Moffat makes his episodes for himself, rather than for the audience. Doctor Who has mostly become a pile of self-congratulatory wank, and I don't want Sherlock to follow suit. It could also be linked to the Conan Doyle canon where Mary has a connection to agra. But after last night's episode, I don't know what the writers are on about any more. I need to rewatch the episode at some point but can't bring myself to do so atm. |
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Exactly. That's why this iteration of Moriarty isn't scary.
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I thought the whole episode was absolutely brilliant, although I wish Magnussen wasn't dead as I thought he could've been developed a bit more and become a great villain (even if he did look like Sven Goran Eriksson)
The twist re: Mary was fantastic, as was Molly bitch-slapping Sherlock. If I'm honest though, I'd like to see a bit more of Lestrade in series 4 as I love the way he & Sherlock interact with each other. Those slaps were 'Ouch!' and totally out of character for our Molly. Then again, her's wasn't the only OOC characterisation in this series. |
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agreed , shame they kill off great characters like Irene and Moriarty too ...
... oh , hang on ... ![]()
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Moriarty is completely bonkers though which makes him unpredictable - a different kind of scary!
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Magnusson could only be effective against people who had secrets. Not everyone has an important secret.
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Did anyone else feel a connection to Mary's 'you should have that printed on a t-shirt' to John in TEH, and Magnussen's references to having something put on a t-shirt (can't remember what it was now lol)?
Or, is it just me?
Last edited by nethwen : 13-01-2014 at 18:15. Reason: Magnussen not Mikkelsen :p |
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does anyone else think that "Appledore" or "Appledoor" (?) was an anagram ? it just sounds like one of those words ... ?
Appledore was used in one of the spin-off stories, based on the Charles Augustus Milverson story - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adv...stus_Milverton "In Gerald Lientz's gamebook Death at Appledore Towers (Sherlock Holmes Solo Mysteries number 3) Watson's cousin, a protégé of Holmes, investigates Milverton's murder after Holmes has refused to do so." |
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Were there any clues,looking back to earlier episodes that Mary is an ex CIA,mi5 agent,or could this have been made up on the spot?
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Were there any clues,looking back to earlier episodes that Mary is an ex CIA,mi5 agent,or could this have been made up on the spot?
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I don't get it... if the only thing that was keeping Magnussen alive was people fearing the information he has, he could never have let anyone into his house, showing that he had nothing. From the moment anyone knows that the information is all on Magnussen's head, he was a dead man.
Am I missing something? |
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Love Moriarty (feel weird saying that ) much more than Magnussen. But really liked the scene where Sherlock describs him as a shark. Other vilain described like that, but first time for me, an actor pulls it off.
There's been talk that Magnussen was only a businessman, not a murderer. Putting Watson in the fire in TEH was murderous in my mind. |
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I don't get it... if the only thing that was keeping Magnussen alive was people fearing the information he has, he could never have let anyone into his house, showing that he had nothing. From the moment anyone knows that the information is all on Magnussen's head, he was a dead man.
Am I missing something? |
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I don't get it... if the only thing that was keeping Magnussen alive was people fearing the information he has, he could never have let anyone into his house, showing that he had nothing. From the moment anyone knows that the information is all on Magnussen's head, he was a dead man.
Am I missing something? |
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I don't get it... if the only thing that was keeping Magnussen alive was people fearing the information he has, he could never have let anyone into his house, showing that he had nothing. From the moment anyone knows that the information is all on Magnussen's head, he was a dead man.
Am I missing something? He thought he had so much power over everyone - eg visiting Baker Street and lording it over everyone - eg peeing inthe fireplace etc. Then showing Sherlock that the glasses didn't do anything - I think that Shelock was doing that to pretend that he was in effect in awe of CAM. CAM started to believe his own publicity. |
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I don't get it... if the only thing that was keeping Magnussen alive was people fearing the information he has, he could never have let anyone into his house, showing that he had nothing. From the moment anyone knows that the information is all on Magnussen's head, he was a dead man.
Am I missing something? Mary only kept him alive to try and find the blackmail material..once she knew it was in his head he was dead. |
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Yes, she had spotted a "skip code" (I think it was) and mentioned "running" people before. I don't mean she said she had run people, she just used the term.
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Magnusson could only be effective against people who had secrets. Not everyone has an important secret.
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I think he was showing off. Simple hubris.
He thought he had so much power over everyone - eg visiting Baker Street and lording it over everyone - eg peeing inthe fireplace etc. Then showing Sherlock that the glasses didn't do anything - I think that Shelock was doing that to pretend that he was in effect in awe of CAM. CAM started to believe his own publicity. The shooting was an act of desperation which was why it was disappointing. With pre knowledge it was all in CAMs head surely he could have come up with a better ploy. For instance if he asked CAM what he thought would happen if Holmes made it public where the info was. |
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No, you have it in one. Once he told Sherlock and Watson he could not allow them to live and tell others.
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![]() It wouldnt surprise me if all "important" people had a secret though |
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But after last night's episode, I don't know what the writers are on about any more. I need to rewatch the episode at some point but can't bring myself to do so atm. Quote:
Did anyone else feel a connection to Mary's 'you should have that printed on a t-shirt' to John in TEH, and Magnussen's references to having something put on a t-shirt (can't remember what it was now lol)?
Or, is it just me? ![]()
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