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I think it's a shame to want or need to be spoon fed absolutes by a storyteller. I'm fine with how it's been left. I really don't care any more about the issue.
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I'm not sure I believe the writers...the most recent articles suggest we're getting a series 4 and 5...what if it's just a big rouse, and Sherlock's killed off?!
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Been enjoying this series, usually the second episode is the weaker but this time it was great.
My guess is mary will whip off a mask to reveal moriarty (names are similar, y'see), and the fall was done with mirrors. It's always mirrors. Sometimes smoke too. |
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Been enjoying this series, usually the second episode is the weaker but this time it was great.
My guess is mary will whip off a mask to reveal moriarty (names are similar, y'see), and the fall was done with mirrors. It's always mirrors. Sometimes smoke too.
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Sherlock has to have done some research on the background of Mary as he has done for others, so surely Sherlock must know what is going on.
Was that Sherlock's Gammon with pineapple, egg and chips?
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Isn't John gay?
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My combining theory for the final episode:
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A very plausible tidy theory which works. |
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I think it's a shame to want or need to be spoon fed absolutes by a storyteller. I'm fine with how it's been left. I really don't care any more about the issue.
It feeds you nothing. To be given the resolution later on isn't spoon-feeding the viewer, it's delivering the payoff. You'd believe that the resolution of a story is spoon-feeding the reader or viewer would you? As far as I was aware good stories have a beginning, a middle, and an end. So if in the third episode Moffat ties up a lot of loose ends and delivers a satisfying resolution to the story he will be sponfeeding the viewers will he? What a shame if viewers are happy if he does that. |
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Here's some more observation on TSOT.
A possible clue that Sherlock knows more in advance than he's telling: -when Sherlock is about to dress for the wedding, he says to himself : 'into battle'. 1st view, i associated this to his reluctance to socialise with people. Perhaps it referred to something else he was expecting later. Something not part of a big plot but still unexplained: -When they went to meet the guardsman, Sherlock couldn't wait, so he managed to enter the guards quarters by 'stealing' a furry black hat. First where did he get that hat, and it can't be that easy to enter this place even if you have the right hat. A scientific question: -Tom's theory about the guardsman wound; could you freeze blood to a solid enough state to kill someone? I think if you had a bucket of liquid carbon dioxide right beside you, yes, but how long would it last? |
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Sherlock dropped a glass of champagne, was it accidently or on purpose?
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Something not part of a big plot but still unexplained: -When they went to meet the guardsman, Sherlock couldn't wait, so he managed to enter the guards quarters by 'stealing' a furry black hat. First where did he get that hat, and it can't be that easy to enter this place even if you have the right hat. |
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Something not part of a big plot but still unexplained:
-When they went to meet the guardsman, Sherlock couldn't wait, so he managed to enter the guards quarters by 'stealing' a furry black hat. First where did he get that hat, and it can't be that easy to enter this place even if you have the right hat.
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Is everyone else also convinced Mary will be bumped off? I can't see her surviving.
Just my own opinion of this series which seems to have attracted some critics: Has it been as enjoyable as 1 & 2 so far? Not in my opinion. Has it still been enjoyable? Absolutely. I have no doubt episode 3 will be the best of the lot & may even be better than the previous 2 series finales, it may just be the best episode yet out of all 9! Just a shame that in the space of 10 days it will all be over
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At the end of ASiB Mycroft tells Watson that Sherlock wanted to be a pirate when he was a child. So maybe "Redbeard" was Mycroft's way of telling Sherlock he was trying to be something he could never be. Or maybe Mycroft was testing to see if Sherlock really is Sherlock. Or maybe its some kind of reference to Irene Adler, (ie, Mycroft's discovered that she's still alive).
Or more likely, none of the above. ![]() I am ridiculously looking forward to the third episode!
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Is everyone else also convinced Mary will be bumped off? I can't see her surviving.
The original Mary dies of course, but her death was never explained in detail (some mystery illness if my memory serves me right?) so that's any writer's dream, they can tackle this story line however they see fit. Edit: Oh damn - Lestrade. It could be Lestrade. They've just shown us how much trust he has in Holmes, and that would explain the need for the mini-story about the robbers...I hope I'm wrong. |
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Neither can I. Someone significant is about to die, it can't be Holmes, it can't be Watson, and in the light of there being two more series ahead of us, I seriously can't see Mycroft being killed off either.
The original Mary dies of course, but her death was never explained in detail (some mystery illness if my memory serves me right?) so that's any writer's dream, they can tackle this story line however they see fit. I too think someone is gonna die. But just to be ironic and teasing, i hope we will come up with a better prediction than 'someone is gonna die in a detective-mystery show' ![]() Some very good theories and observations so far, let's keep it up. How many hours have you scheduled on sunday for the show and the forum after? ...all night!
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Considering they already killed Sherlock before, they can kill anyone. Yes Sherlock's death was in the original but considering the liberty they take, i wouldn't put it past them.
I too think someone is gonna die. But just to be ironic and teasing, i hope we will come up with a better prediction than 'someone is gonna die in a detective-mystery show' ![]() Some very good theories and observations so far, let's keep it up. How many hours have you scheduled on sunday for the show and the forum after? ...all night! ![]() As for Sunday, my phone is on voice mail
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Neither can I. Someone significant is about to die, it can't be Holmes, it can't be Watson, and in the light of there being two more series ahead of us, I seriously can't see Mycroft being killed off either.
The original Mary dies of course, but her death was never explained in detail (some mystery illness if my memory serves me right?) so that's any writer's dream, they can tackle this story line however they see fit. Edit: Oh damn - Lestrade. It could be Lestrade. They've just shown us how much trust he has in Holmes, and that would explain the need for the mini-story about the robbers...I hope I'm wrong. But it's a fair point that it may be Lestraud, because I notice that they've introduced an assistant for him. Which may be intended as his replacement. Or maybe she will be used as a sidekick for Lestraud in the future because it's been a tradition on British television for the lead detective to have a sidekick to bounce off. But I think it's worth noticing that the show is getting a bit cast heavy. So something may have to go. |
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If I was to make a completely baseless theory I'd imagine that she may sacrifice herself in order to save the life of John or Sherlock.
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Apologies - I edited my post before I saw yours, what do you think?
As for Sunday, my phone is on voice mail ![]() There's been a lot of talk about someone dying in next episode: perhaps it's Lestrade. And that scene was just there to reintroduce his assistant who would become the boss after his death. That would change the dynamic a lot as we know she doesn't like Sherlock. Now i think that scene was there for also other reasons. More about this later. |
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Did Sherlock and Mary sort out the flower arrangements properly because some of the people at the wedding had flower button holes and some didn't?
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I DON'T WANT TO LOSE LESTRADE. Fancy him majorly.
Should we be putting theorising in spoiler tags btw? |
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I DON'T WANT TO LOSE LESTRADE. Fancy him majorly.
Should we be putting theorising in spoiler tags btw? Me neither. ![]() I don't suppose theorising needs to be in spoiler tags - it's not giving away the plot, is it? Just guesswork, and all part of the fun and anticipation
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About the robberies of the Waters gang.
Didn't find any real clues but perhaps someone else will. Just perhaps that the journalist thought that Lestrade had almost lost his job. 6 months one very blury, barely readable on the HD version, best i can do. Checked the names of the writers, just the first one who turned up something that could be far away related but i doubt it. Robbie Fraser Great-grandson of William Gillies, co-founder of the Scottish National League, the party that was to become the Scottish National Party (the SNP), currently the biggest party in the Scottish parliament. http://imgur.com/elWCdFQ http://imgur.com/l6NQG5O http://imgur.com/iW1V6TY Not desperate for clues, just looking everywhere. That's the fun
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I think it's a shame to want or need to be spoon fed absolutes by a storyteller. I'm fine with how it's been left. I really don't care any more about the issue.
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