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Old 21-01-2014, 23:01
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Sherlock and Moriarty were more like sparring partners, ducking and diving, if they could have sorted out their differences, they may have been great friends.
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Old 21-01-2014, 23:07
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I've just bought the box set DVD of series 1 and 2 as it was only £10, and it's only since reading this thread over the last couple of weeks that I realise there was so much I didn't notice first time around!

Guess I'm going to be concentrating a whole lot more when I watch the earlier episodes again.
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Old 22-01-2014, 21:58
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I felt sorry for him!! Probably not Moffat's intention but true all the same.

Maybe that's cos you recognise a little bit of yourself in him.
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Old 23-01-2014, 00:25
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Maybe that's cos you recognise a little bit of yourself in him.
Very cheeky !

Having said that, in a way i feel the same about Magnussen; i feel, among other things, pity for people who think they are superior to others.
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Old 23-01-2014, 00:30
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Maybe that's cos you recognise a little bit of yourself in him.
Probably
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Old 23-01-2014, 09:25
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Well done to Sherlock for winning an award at the NTAs last night.
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Old 24-01-2014, 21:43
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I just watched the extras from the Bluray of season 3.

About what Moffat and Gatiss do that comes from the original:
they said 'Sherlock is not a detective show, it's a show about a detective' Fair enough, if that's the direction they want to take. Clearly the first two seasons where both but it's their show.
Moffat also said about the original 'Holmes and Watson were designed as a comedy double-act' Pardon? They can transform it into that but it wasn't designed that way! Do wathever you like with your show Moffat and it's up to me to decide if i continue with it. But don't try to distort what Doyle intended to justify your artistic choices!

The fall:
mostly quoting other people's theory that don't fit and only Benedict acknowleges that fans got a lot of individual bits right.
I wrote before, that, apart from one detail, the third theory told to Anderson was acceptable to me but that it probably wasn't the final one due to the fact that at the end Watson asks 'you are going to tell me how you did it?' and Sherlock just smile and doesn't answer.
They sort of confirm that by basicaly saying, it's either the one told to Anderson or we don't know ourselves! Very enlightning!

Also stuff about the filming mechanics but no great revelations about the questions we asked here that got no definitive solutions. Nothing about where was the underground car hidden, or how could Sholto not notice for so long he had been stabbed, or how Mary got inside Magnussen's office, or about the key or things like that. I don't include things like why Sherlock wasn't searched at Magnussen's because that's character psychology, which is subjectives. Doesn't mean we can't ask questions about that and would have been fun to hear more from them, but that's it.

I'm sure they will have more comments about things when they find the solutions themselves !
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Old 25-01-2014, 09:13
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For everyone who wonders how Mary got into Magnussen's office, here is the answer: no-one knows including the writers. They just decided she would be there. Or, according to OH, she used a transporter. Or according to oldest daughter, she is a distant relative of Spider-Man and just climbed up the outside of the building using her patent invisibility cloak so nobody would notice her. Or according to next door neighbor, who is quite old, the entire season was a dream of Sherlock's.

We were all joking of course. Anyone else got any weird theories?
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Old 25-01-2014, 09:26
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Moffat and Gatiss revealed how she got in there in the Empire podcast. Including how boring it would have been to actually show it.
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Old 25-01-2014, 11:45
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Moffat and Gatiss revealed how she got in there in the Empire podcast. Including how boring it would have been to actually show it.
Are you going to share, please?
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Old 25-01-2014, 17:45
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Moffat and Gatiss revealed how she got in there in the Empire podcast. Including how boring it would have been to actually show it.

Please tell us as I looked up the Empire podcast and it lasts over an hour. I can't possibly listen to it for over an hour as I have a 4 year old, so please tell us.
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Old 25-01-2014, 18:00
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Please tell us as I looked up the Empire podcast and it lasts over an hour. I can't possibly listen to it for over an hour as I have a 4 year old, so please tell us.
Without listening to it again... http://www.empireonline.com/features...s-3-secrets/p9
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Old 25-01-2014, 18:34
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There's something a bit irksome about the frequently smug declarations where they discuss a minor point that "nobody guessed"; and it's ALWAYS something thousands of people guessed.
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Old 25-01-2014, 21:11
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Told you they didn't know! She broke in, she got in ingeniously. There was a window open! They don't actually know.
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Old 25-01-2014, 22:27
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Told you they didn't know! She broke in, she got in ingeniously. There was a window open! They don't actually know.
Oh pooh. Moffat doesn't bother himself with little details like a believable plot so you shouldn't worry about it either.

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Old 25-01-2014, 22:34
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Was Mary delivering flowers to Magnussen?
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Old 25-01-2014, 23:04
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Was Mary delivering flowers to Magnussen?
lol
You mean like in the 60s when they put a flower in the barrel of a gun!
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Old 25-01-2014, 23:05
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Originally Posted by marsch_labb
lol
You mean like in the 60s when they put a flower in the barrel of a gun!


lol

Magnussen- "Flowers, who would send me flowers?"
Reception- "They are pretty"
Magnussen- "I'm intrigued"
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Old 26-01-2014, 08:49
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lol
You mean like in the 60s when they put a flower in the barrel of a gun!
Er, I wasn't alive in the 60s. What are you talking about?
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Old 26-01-2014, 08:51
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Oh pooh. Moffat doesn't bother himself with little details like a believable plot so you shouldn't worry about it either.

I wasn't worried. It's just we were all curious, so we started to come up with weird theories and I wondered if anyone knew the true explanation only to discover there isn't one, which is what I thought all along.
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Old 26-01-2014, 09:10
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I think they needed Mary to be there, so they could make the big reveal about her, and so there she was, is the truth of it!
It does make a mockery of the supposedly brilliant Sherlock, though - he used a long winded, elaborate plan to gain access, going through the fake relationship with Janine etc., when all he had to do was put on dark clothes and a woolly hat and magic himself in there
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Old 26-01-2014, 10:02
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Er, I wasn't alive in the 60s. What are you talking about?
http://www.theguardian.com/culture/g...-best-protests
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Old 26-01-2014, 12:14
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I wasn't worried. It's just we were all curious, so we started to come up with weird theories and I wondered if anyone knew the true explanation only to discover there isn't one, which is what I thought all along.
Moffat likes to leave it up to the viewer to provide their own explanations.
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Old 26-01-2014, 13:51
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Old 26-01-2014, 14:17
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Thanks for the link. It was the Vietnam War evidently.
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