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Sherlock - BBC Drama (Part 3)
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Rhumbatugger
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by Jenny1986:
“Funny thing is, the premise of this episode was the busts. I remember a really good Jeremy Brett episode based on it, but it was the whole story. They just used it as a spring board for more Mary here. I'm enjoying it so far and am following it fine, but i'm not thrilled it's become about her again, she just needs to go away.”

I'm finding it easy to follow.

I just feel cheesed off that anything potentially interesting was just 'dealt' with in the shortest possible time IN ORDER to, as you say, concentrate on Mary and her past, which we know about already and the violent, spy, action stuff isn't what I love about Sherlock.
Belligerence
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by Straker:
“Moffat incapable of not focusing on the "companion". Where have we seen that before?!?!

He needs to hand both these shows off to someone else, PDQ.”

TBH he didn't write this eppy!

This is much easier to follow than the last special, but all very convoluted.
Boz_Lowdownl
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by mrbernay:
“That's the problem, though. We shouldn't have to watch several times to understand what's going on or what's being said. Gatiss and Moffat really are self-indulgent t**ts, who do stuff for their own enjoyment.... (IMO) >:(”

Couldn't agree more!

I wouldn't mind so much if they cocked up and ruined their own ideas, but they haven't the wit or intelligence to create their own shows so they ruin existing ones.
Aaron_2015
01-01-2017
I'm totally, hopelessly lost with it all.

I can tell you what's happened, but not why.

It just stinks of Moffat squealing about how clever he is.
Versailles
01-01-2017
How can Sherlock forget or forgive that Mary shot him in cold blood.? He almost died, ffs!
I have ever hated two fictional characters, who were supposed to be protagonists, and they are both named Mary.
mrbernay
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“I just find it bloody hard to care at all.”

The problem is that it will rate well (what's the competition), and some people, like me, watch it, hoping it will improve, so the BBC will give Moffatt and Gatiss more stuff to do. It will be interesting to see how the next 2 eps rate. It's up against new Endeavour on ITV.
RickLopez
01-01-2017
I remember when Sherlock would just solve a case with John.

Now it's all about multiple strands and confusing everyone.
Jenny1986
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by Versailles:
“How can Sherlock forget or forgive that Mary shot him in cold blood.? He almost died, ffs!
I have ever hated two fictional characters, who were supposed to be protagonists, and they are both named Mary.”

Firstly, yes. Her backstory is ridiculous, unbelievable and ultimately drags down every episode focussed on her.

Secondly, who is the other Mary? I'm curious.
Straker
01-01-2017
It's so bloody navel-gazing, just like Dr Who.
Sherlock_Holmes
01-01-2017
Nice episode of Jane Bond.......oh wait, it's Sherlock
mrbernay
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by Straker:
“It's so bloody navel-gazing, just like Dr Who.”

Same self-loving team that make it
anotherlongers
01-01-2017
I'm going to start writing Miss Marple episodes where she gets married and all the episodes are about her husband's life as a welder.
Versailles
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by Jenny1986:
“Firstly, yes. Her backstory is ridiculous, unbelievable and ultimately drags down every episode focussed on her.

Secondly, who is the other Mary? I'm curious.”


I just realised I didn not say who it was. Did not mean to be coy
Mary in Downton Abbey
Rhumbatugger
01-01-2017
So the lady Ambassador was the traitor then?
Straker
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by RickLopez:
“I remember when Sherlock would just solve a case with John.”

Self-referential mythologising as opposed to just telling a good mystery story, like they used to.
mrbernay
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by RickLopez:
“I remember when Sherlock would just solve a case with John.

Now it's all about multiple strands and confusing everyone.”

To the point where you couldn't care less what happens..... What a success
Rhumbatugger
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by anotherlongers:
“I'm going to start writing Miss Marple episodes where she gets married and all the episodes are about her husband life as a welder.”

Made me laugh.
Jenny1986
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by Versailles:
“I just realised I didn not say who it was. Did not mean to be coy
Mary in Downton Abbey ”

Lol, I should have known the answer though. I remember from the DA thread (which is miss )

Please be having an affair, this is one time nobody will blame you!
mrbernay
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by anotherlongers:
“I'm going to start writing Miss Marple episodes where she gets married and all the episodes are about her husband life as a welder.”



Now that could be interesting: the life of a welder in St. Mary Mead.... Go on, do it
wuffles
01-01-2017
I suspect there's more to the woman on the bus than meets the eye.
anyonefortennis
01-01-2017
Don't do it John. She's a plant.
Boz_Lowdownl
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by mrbernay:
“The problem is that it will rate well (what's the competition), and some people, like me, watch it, hoping it will improve, so the BBC will give Moffatt and Gatiss more stuff to do. It will be interesting to see how the next 2 eps rate. It's up against new Endeavour on ITV.”

Plus you'll get the usual Digital Spy "reviewer" raving about how good it was!
anyonefortennis
01-01-2017
I wonder if this is mirroring real life events....

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Belligerence
01-01-2017
Originally Posted by Straker:
“It's so bloody navel-gazing, just like Dr Who.”

Lost all interest in Who because the plots just became convoluted for the sake of it. It doesn't make for clever TV.

Don't get me wrong, Moffat is a brilliant storyteller (Press Gang anyone?), but he sure likes to reinvent the wheel.
chloeb
01-01-2017
Oops ...nodded off momentarily
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