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The 'Of The Doctor' Trilogy has been AMAZING.....More please
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Thrombin
09-01-2014
I loved all three when I watched them. Lots of high emotion, stirring drama, nostalgic nods to classic Who and brilliant comedy.

Of course there are always faults if you look for them (or read threads about them on this forum ) but they didn't spoil my enjoyment at the time
Helbore
09-01-2014
I really enjoyed them, but they shouldn't re-do that sort of a spectacle too often. It was a big hurrah that celebrated the fiftieth anniversary, brought an end to the "Time War," arc and said goodbye to Matt Smith, whilst circumventing the regen limit. It was a story that needed to be big, but won't likely come around again any time soon.

Of the three, I think "Time..." was the weakest. Though I still enjoyed it a lot, I feel there were issues with pacing and the tone shifting back-and-forth a bit too much between serious drama and very light comedy.

I also think it would have made a much better conclusion to the entire "Time War" and "Crack" arcs if it turned out it was actually the Time Lords who blew up the TARDIS to create the cracks for them to escape through. I think that would have been smarter and made more sense than it just being Madame Kovarian's sect that somehow managed to pull it off. Its still not clear how Kovarian actually made the TARDIS explode, but it wouldn't be hard to say that the Time Lords had engineered the TARDIS to always explode at that point in time, because they'd already seen the future and knew it was needed. Heck, even have it be the Doctor who goes back in time and is responsible for his own TARDIS blowing up in order to save the Time Lords. That would have tied it together much neater, I think. Instead it almost came across as a throwaway line that didn't really explain anything.

Oh and I also didn't like that the Silence - as in the memory -sapping aliens - got written off as genetically engineered confessional priests, so you could forget what you'd confessed to them. Way to take a scary, mysterious alien force that had apparently ruled Earth since before we evolved and turn them into a pretty boring irrelevance.

I also thought there was a bit of a problem with the resolution. Apparently the Time Lords were trying to escape through the crack and were transmitting the question because they knew only the Doctor could answer it. It wasn't a secret code that unlocked the crack, but just a way of making sure they'd got the right universe to cross in to. But Clara's message to them has the same effect. They obviously realise they've got the right universe, as they go ahead and provide the new regeneration energy to the Doctor. They know he's there.

So why didn't they just break through the crack at that point?

I still enjoyed it for the most part, though.
Thrombin
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by Helbore:
“Oh and I also didn't like that the Silence - as in the memory -sapping aliens - got written off as genetically engineered confessional priests, so you could forget what you'd confessed to them. Way to take a scary, mysterious alien force that had apparently ruled Earth since before we evolved and turn them into a pretty boring irrelevance.”

The explanation didn't really make sense either. People confess to make themselves feel better by getting things off their chest, or to seek absolution and purification. Neither of those purposes would have been served, from the confessor's point of view, if they immediately forget having done it! It might be fun to say the Silents are the perfect confessionals as a joke but it makes no sense in reality!

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“I also thought there was a bit of a problem with the resolution. Apparently the Time Lords were trying to escape through the crack and were transmitting the question because they knew only the Doctor could answer it. It wasn't a secret code that unlocked the crack, but just a way of making sure they'd got the right universe to cross in to. But Clara's message to them has the same effect. They obviously realise they've got the right universe, as they go ahead and provide the new regeneration energy to the Doctor. They know he's there.

So why didn't they just break through the crack at that point?”

It wasn't just to find the right place and time in the Universe it was also to make sure that it was safe to return. The assumption was that the Doctor wouldn't say his name unless it was safe for them to come back. He refused to say his name because the place was surrounded by enemies and it was, therefore, not safe.

Having said that, I don't know why they closed the crack once they saved the Doctor because, at that point, it was safe!
Shawn_Lunn
09-01-2014
Has anyone actually watched all three episodes back to back?

I'm thinking of doing that sometime this month for fun myself.
lotrjw
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by Shawn_Lunn:
“Has anyone actually watched all three episodes back to back?

I'm thinking of doing that sometime this month for fun myself.”

Between Christmas and new year I watched Night of, Day of, anad Time of back to back in order.
I dont have Name of so I couldnt watch that! I would have to buy Series 7 to be able to watch all of the 'Of The Doctor' episodes back to back!
Oh wait BBC Three is doing series 7 over again from this Friday, so I might get a chance to when my BluRay for Matt's Christmas Specials comes, after the 20th Jan!
doctor blue box
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by Shawn_Lunn:
“Has anyone actually watched all three episodes back to back?

I'm thinking of doing that sometime this month for fun myself.”

I think only name and time feel like a pair and day of the doctor feel's more stand alone, I mean name and time had a running theme of the question and trenzalore whereas day of the doctor was something completely different
lotrjw
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by doctor blue box:
“I think only name and time feel like a pair and day of the doctor feel's more stand alone, I mean name and time had a running theme of the question and trenzalore whereas day of the doctor was something completely different”

not quite because of the Gallifrey theme from Day to Time!
doctor blue box
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by lotrjw:
“not quite because of the Gallifrey theme from Day to Time!”

maybe that's sort of a link, but that example still only links two of them, there's not a central theme that I can see that can be said to link all three
lotrjw
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by doctor blue box:
“maybe that's sort of a link, but that example still only links two of them, there's not a central theme that I can see that can be said to link all three”

Well the whole stepping in the timeline thing in Name and Clara seeing The War Doctor there, sets up Day!
I know its different things that link Name to Day and then Day to Time, but the links are still there!
The_Judge_
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by Shawn_Lunn:
“Has anyone actually watched all three episodes back to back?

I'm thinking of doing that sometime this month for fun myself.”

Where do you live and do you have a good telly?

Also - do it right, watch Night of the Doctor too!
doctor blue box
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by lotrjw:
“Well the whole stepping in the timeline thing in Name and Clara seeing The War Doctor there, sets up Day!
I know its different things that link Name to Day and then Day to Time, but the links are still there!”

but as I said there's only ever links from two.As you've said name can be said to set up day, and name and time are obvoiusly linked, but there's not an overall thing that you can say 'this is the thing that links the trilogy' because anything that can be said like gallifrey or the trenzalore/question theme only ever works for two
lotrjw
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by doctor blue box:
“but as I said there's only ever links from two.As you've said name can be said to set up day, and name and time are obvoiusly linked, but there's not an overall thing that you can say 'this is the thing that links the trilogy' because anything that can be said like gallifrey or the trenzalore/question theme only ever works for two”

well I suppose there is always Trenzalore as that is mentioned in The Day of the Doctor and The theme of the Time war comes out in all three!
doctor blue box
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by lotrjw:
“well I suppose there is always Trenzalore as that is mentioned in The Day of the Doctor and The theme of the Time war comes out in all three!”

not a part of the plot though is it, just given a passing mention. really not trying to be picky but I just feel weird about people calling it a trilogy when I just dot see an overall link
lordOfTime
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by GDK:
“BIB: I felt underwhelmed by "Time.." at first, but it seemed much better to me on re-watch. Too much new stuff going on for me to process the emotional content the first time around. Emotions came through on re-watch.”

That's what I thought. "Time" is the weakest of the 3 but I enjoyed it much more on second viewing! I love the seen on Christmas Town with the 3 minute Dawn is beautiful to watch. Some of my gripes of the episode still stands but it is much better than I thought.
Shoppy
10-01-2014
Originally Posted by Shawn_Lunn:
“Has anyone actually watched all three episodes back to back?

I'm thinking of doing that sometime this month for fun myself.”

Yeah I've watched...
The Name of the Doctor/ The Night of the Doctor/The Last Day/The Day of the Doctor /The Time of the Doctor...a couple of times now, love it


Of course there's also the other way to frame the War Doctor's story which I aim to have a go at next...
TV Movie/ The Night of the Doctor/The Last Day/The Day Of The Doctor /Rose
lotrjw
10-01-2014
Originally Posted by Shoppy:
“Yeah I've watched...
The Name of the Doctor/ The Night of the Doctor/The Last Day/The Day of the Doctor /The Time of the Doctor...a couple of times now, love it


Of course there's also the other way to frame the War Doctor's story which I aim to have a go at next...
TV Movie/ The Night of the Doctor/The Last Day/The Day Of The Doctor /Rose
”

that last idea about the war Doctor is a good one
bokonon
10-01-2014
I really enjoyed them. The Christmas ep was definitely the weakest but I have more or less given up on Christams eps any way and it was actually better than the average yuletide rubbish. The main fault was actually the desire to appease the hard core by resolving all the loose ends.

The Day of the Doctor was brilliant- I liked all of that including the Zygon storyline.
lotrjw
10-01-2014
Originally Posted by bokonon:
“I really enjoyed them. The Christmas ep was definitely the weakest but I have more or less given up on Christams eps any way and it was actually better than the average yuletide rubbish. The main fault was actually the desire to appease the hard core by resolving all the loose ends.

The Day of the Doctor was brilliant- I liked all of that including the Zygon storyline.”

Well I said stuff about that here: http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...3&postcount=14 (and elsewhere but I cant remember where now)

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“If they had done a Trillogy of 'Name of...', 'Day of...' and 'Time of...' on 16th, 23rd and 30th November 2013 and a separate Christmas special on Christmas day 2013...”

and adding to that to make it relevant to the thread, the Time Of couldve been sorted out before Christmas and the Christmas episode used as a way to introduce Capaldi, just like they did with Tennant in 'The Christmas invasion'.
WhoFan55
11-01-2014
I thought "The Day of the Doctor" was great, in large part due to the interaction between the 10th and 11th Doctors as well as the Hurt Doctor. I thought "The Name of the Doctor" was so-so and "The Time of the Doctor" was a big disappointment and I don't think it's a very good episode.

I'd still also like to know how Kovarian managed to blow up the TARDIS. After all, the TARDIS is the most sophisticated and technologically-advanced ship in the universe and she apparently blows it up "just like that". I think the resolution to that question should have been a lot better than a few brief lines.
lordOfTime
11-01-2014
Originally Posted by WhoFan55:
“I thought "The Day of the Doctor" was great, in large part due to the interaction between the 10th and 11th Doctors as well as the Hurt Doctor. I thought "The Name of the Doctor" was so-so and "The Time of the Doctor" was a big disappointment and I don't think it's a very good episode.

I'd still also like to know how Kovarian managed to blow up the TARDIS. After all, the TARDIS is the most sophisticated and technologically-advanced ship in the universe and she apparently blows it up "just like that". I think the resolution to that question should have been a lot better than a few brief lines.”

How did the Titanic break into the wall of the TARDIS at the end of LoTTL. The Doctor forgot to put his shields up.
Whovian1109
11-01-2014
Originally Posted by Shawn_Lunn:
“Has anyone actually watched all three episodes back to back?

I'm thinking of doing that sometime this month for fun myself.”

Pulled it on Christmas Day. Loved all three.
WhoFan55
12-01-2014
Originally Posted by lordOfTime:
“How did the Titanic break into the wall of the TARDIS at the end of LoTTL. The Doctor forgot to put his shields up. ”

Yes, but that's a little different than the entire TARDIS blowing up. I just think that such an important event should have had more detail given as to how it was done.
Fairyprincess0
12-01-2014
Originally Posted by Shoppy:
“Yeah I've watched...
The Name of the Doctor/ The Night of the Doctor/The Last Day/The Day of the Doctor /The Time of the Doctor...a couple of times now, love it


Of course there's also the other way to frame the War Doctor's story which I aim to have a go at next...
TV Movie/ The Night of the Doctor/The Last Day/The Day Of The Doctor /Rose
”

Tv movie/ night of the doctor/ name of the doctor/ day of the doctor/ rose?
The_Judge_
12-01-2014
I didnt see DOTD at the cinema and hadn't watched the trailers so found this quite amusing :


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-hZrl-N...%3D-hZrl-N3yps
Tillymint82
22-02-2014
it was amazing
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