I'm really sick of people bringing Linda's cancer into everything. It's not necessary, and isn't an excuse to give her sympathy - currently, she's alive and healthy. And before anyone says I'm being nasty, I fully know battling cancer must have been an awful experience for her, as my own mother battled breast cancer. I'm just annoyed that Linda's cancer has been brought into every thread concerning her.

You may be happy to know I';m in the process of asking Ms Latifah and Freddie Mercury's old band the same thing. Perhaps we should confer on our results when they're all in?

Whilst I'm at it I may start to bombard Dr Fox and Professor Green with requests to see their qualifications.

I mean how very dare they right?

I am bewildered and bemused - what are these visible outer signs of menopause you are observing? Half of the world's population experience menopause (if they are lucky) and hitherto I have not been aware of universal behaviours or characteristics that distinguish woman over a certain age.

Her cancer was only mentioned because someone put her down because of how her arms look. Clearly there's no need to bring her looks into it or whether she's menopausal or not.

Queen of mean

Thank you for articulating what I couldn't. It's only week one and I am thoroughly exhausted at the ott, irrational hatred towards Linda by a couple of forum members. Sad really

It happens EVERY year. Without any interest at all in actually getting to know the contestants, some fms decide Queen someone or King someone is their favourite - and God protect anyone who emits a perceived slight against the FM's chosen King or Queen....

Ever after the King or Queen gets praised for anything and everything. Their dimness is HILLLLARRRRIOUS!!! Their stupidity is SOOOOO SWEEEETTTT!!!!! Their bitchiness is KEEPIN' IT REAL!!!!! And the chosen villain of the series is comparable to Idi Amin if they sneeze too loudly in the Chosen One's direction.

It would be slightly amusing if it wasn't so predictable.

I've an inkling that some of those who are blaming bitchiness on menopause have yet to experience menstruation; never mind menopause.......

I'm thinking along the same lines PatsyL

Thank you Patsy. I have a really tough shitty day and that was the first time for many hours that I have laughed out loud.

Well said Patsy. Is it my imagination or does this forum get nastier every year?

Well Linda admitted disliking Jim before she went into the house, so nothing new there

Well Jean..this year has left me gobsmacked, so I'd personally have to say yes.

Aww, I hope you're OK. Just tell yourself it could be worse....... you could be sh**ging Lee!

PMSL

that's question Jim was asking, Coleen said they have history..... Jim seems to have forgotten about it, but it would appear Linda bares a grudge.

Just in case anyone didn't see it and thinks there is some truth in this utterly biased account, here is what actually happened.

Linda, Luisa, Jasmine and Sam were lounging in their pj's on their beds having a chat. Linda was making up a bed. In the course of the conversation (which we got the impression had been about Jim) Linda told the others that she didn't get on with Jim, but didn't want the others to feel they should be influenced by that. Jim walked in and there was an obscure, ill tempered spat about Linda moving some pillows, the nature of which was never made clear. Linda said that she didn't mind that he didn't like her, because she didn't like him very much either. He asked why she didn't like him. She said it was because he was constantly talking over her. He nodded and said yes. Amidst many
interruptions, Linda started to tell him what had just annoyed her, the nature of which we never really got to the bottom of. He started to walk away. She asked him if he wanted, having asked the question, to listen to the answer. He said no and walked out of the room.

There was no 'trap'. There was no 'bait' There were no 'sides'. No one played it 'extremely well' or even averagely well. It was just a bog-standard, rather dull argument between two people who like to be listened to.




I thought it was interesting, yes, but not in the way you did. I thought it was an unusually equal discussion/ argument, with no 'ranks' at all; just two strong women briefly clashing, then backing off without any particular ill feeling.


No, it was just rude.

Luisa is a nasty narcissistic little b*tch. Just as she was in The Apprentice. I loathed her then and she hasn't changed my mind here. End of.

Jim didn't do anything so doesn't need an excuse.

But if she can put old Queen Bee Linda in her place it's good she's there.

Aren't you forgetting something after the part I've bolded? She also said "If Jim blows any more smoke up Evander's arse, he'll have s*** on his nose" then they all laughed. Such a pleasant "chat".

Regardless, it's good to hear an "unbiased" account of what happened.

I don't know why people keep saying that. He readily agreed that he keeps talking over her, and the argument between them started off with the acknowledged fact that Jim doesn't like Linda.

Also - here's a thought - when Linda said that their previous argument was because of Jim behaving horribly at something, maybe he really did behave horribly. We know perfectly well that he is capable of it. In which case 'forgetting about it' is hardly to be congratulated.

Good God I said I was fed up not hard up!

But yeah I will be fine - as Scarlett would say - Tomorrow is another day (although I don't have Tara) thanks for the kind thought (I think)

But to be fair, Linda does hold grudges - we witnessed that last time with Julie Goodyear. Please don't make her out to be blameless because she clearly isn't

I have - Tara, that is. That's my daughter's name.

I agree but after Crosby winning the last one anyone can win.