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benbeez1
08-01-2014
Originally Posted by zelda fan:
“Luisa is the best in there i hope she wins.”

i hope so too
jaq7uk
08-01-2014
yes I like her.. as she is honest and says it how it is. also been quite nice.

re elander and gay comment... don't discuss its not appropriate.

and re sleeping arrangements... saying to lee I don't think u and jasmine should sleep in bed together tonight and suggesting swapping with Ollie.

she is very bright and aware of everything

she could be the dark horse of this year.
staceyxxx23
09-01-2014
Definitely. When she went into the bathroom and told Lee that he can't mess Casey about, then when she told him that he and Jasmine shouldn't sleep together. I love her honesty and the fact she's not afraid to actually TELL people what she's thinking.
Odette Valmont
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by staceyxxx23:
“Definitely. When she went into the bathroom and told Lee that he can't mess Casey about, then when she told him that he and Jasmine shouldn't sleep together. I love her honesty and the fact she's not afraid to actually TELL people what she's thinking.”

Exactly, which is why I think she's one of the only sane ones in there. Unlike many other housemates, she is just telling it like it is, with no hidden or malicious agenda. I hope we see many more examples of Luisa's honesty, as it's certainly needed in that house.
AOTB
09-01-2014
I think she's the best housemate in this. By a mile.

People don't seem to mention her good points on here anywhere near much as her, er supposed 'bad' points, but her handling of Evander's 'gay talk' and her telling Lee he needed to be more considerate to Casey and not to act as he was acting tend to get overlooked.

She is assertive, bright and confident and I loved how she firmly dealt with Liz when she called Luisa a 'stupid woman' when sorting the shopping and for not instantly bowing to her coffee demand. Good on her. She was calm and polite, despite the totally unnecessary name calling but I'm pretty sure Liz got the message.

I love the Apprentice and for me she was an excellent candidate. I fully expect her to get some disproportionate dislike on here, that's par for the course but to date she's living up to expectations.

As it stands, I hope that she wins it. I think it's highly unlikely but if she gets in the top half I'd say she's done well.
sandy50
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by jaq7uk:
“yes I like her.. as she is honest and says it how it is. also been quite nice.

re elander and gay comment... don't discuss its not appropriate.

and re sleeping arrangements... saying to lee I don't think u and jasmine should sleep in bed together tonight and suggesting swapping with Ollie.

she is very bright and aware of everything

she could be the dark horse of this year.”

shes making out she's giving advice, BUT think about it bit more and look at what she's saying in another way.....

.......if Lee doesn't sleep with Jasmine the cameras won't be on them will they !!!!- because Luisa knows that they would be getting airtime,and she doesn't want that !!

Luisa is very calculating. Just the same thing happened when she was talking about Casey being in the bath with the two boys,....she was saying that she was doing that to get camera time - More like....Luisa was worried Casey was getting more Camera time ! Why didn't she say that Dappy and Lee were in the bath with Casey to get camera time ?

She targets the girls and what they are doing , not the guys in the house !
Odette Valmont
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by sandy50:
“shes making out she's giving advice, BUT think about it bit more and look at what she's saying in another way.....

.......if Lee doesn't sleep with Jasmine the cameras won't be on them will they !!!!- because Luisa knows that they would be getting airtime,and she doesn't want that !!

Luisa is very calculating. Just the same thing happened when she was said that Casey was getting camera time by being in the bath with the boys remember !!!.”

I think you're being OTT and over-thinking things. Perhaps she was telling Lee not to sleep with Jasmine simply because she was concerned about Casey's feelings and how inconsiderate it would be. She did confront Lee earlier, telling him how upset Casey was.
sandy50
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by Odette Valmont:
“I think you're being OTT and over-thinking things. Perhaps she was telling Lee not to sleep with Jasmine simply because she was concerned about Casey's feelings and how inconsiderate it would be. She did confront Lee earlier, telling him how upset Casey was.”

i'm giving my opinion on how I view what Luisa was doing - she's manipulative and calculating - and I think it is OTT and naive that you think that this successful businesswoman is that altruistic !

she'll balance her scheming with niceities of course, like telling Lee that Casey was upset, again though criticising him for behaving the way he did in her passive aggressive manner. This is a competition , and Luisa will want to get as far as she can because it means more money
Darcyprincess
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by DUNDEEBOY:
“I still feel as an individual she will go very close to winning this”

I don't think that she will at all, she is far too mouthy, very sly and has to be at the centre of all the drama which she seems to cause a lot of!

When she looked like she was trying to be kind to Casey and thoughtful about Lee and Jasmine not sleeping together to save Caseys feelings she then blew it by then telling Ollie to sleep with Casey so that Jasmine and Lee could sleep together. How would that have saved Caseys feelings?

Luisa is a total hypocrite!
Odette Valmont
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by sandy50:
“i'm giving my opinion on how I view what Luisa was doing - she's manipulative and calculating - and I think it is OTT and naive that you think that this successful businesswoman is that altruistic !

she'll balance her scheming with niceities of course, like telling Lee that Casey was upset, again though criticising him for behaving the way he did in her passive aggressive manner. This is a competition , and Luisa will want to get as far as she can because it means more money”

I have no doubt that Luisa wants to win, and good luck to her. As a successful businesswoman, she's obviously well aware of what makes a BB winner, and that isn't a manipulative or calculating bitch. She's being honest, considerate (as we saw when Casey was upset) and says what's on her mind - everything the public love. Luisa is too smart to take on the ultra-bitch attitude as she knows that won't win it for her.
Dave Mac
09-01-2014
Thought I would dislike her but she's definitely been the best HM so far IMO.

Monday's HL's were a bit ropey with her comments about Casey and the hot tub cringe but I'll let her off as she's generally been good value.
Dave Mac
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“She had a word with Lee about his behaviour and why it wasn't OK - well done Luisa.

Didn't like the way she snapped at Liz during the shopping task though although will give her the benefit of the doubt being under pressure.

Not sure if her conversation with Jim was stirring or a fumbled attempt at peace making - open mind on that.”

Didn't Liz call her a silly cow or stupid woman or something like that?

She muttered something cheeky anyway. Luisa was quite right to put her in her place.
Fairy Wings
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by Darcyprincess:
“I don't think that she will at all, she is far too mouthy, very sly and has to be at the centre of all the drama which she seems to cause a lot of!

When she looked like she was trying to be kind to Casey and thoughtful about Lee and Jasmine not sleeping together to save Caseys feelings she then blew it by then telling Ollie to sleep with Casey so that Jasmine and Lee could sleep together. How would that have saved Caseys feelings?

Luisa is a total hypocrite!”

I thought she may have been trying to stir the poo a bit when she went into the bathroom where Lee and Jasmine were to tell of Casey's tears. Casey may not have wanted Lee to be told so soon & especially when he was in there with Jasmine. She must have been like a rat up a drainpipe with the news.
misslibertine
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by Dave Mac:
“Didn't Liz call her a silly cow or stupid woman or something like that?

She muttered something cheeky anyway. Luisa was quite right to put her in her place.”

Yes, she called her a stupid woman because Luisa couldn't find the posh coffee Liz wanted on the shopping list.
sandy50
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by Odette Valmont:
“I have no doubt that Luisa wants to win, and good luck to her. As a successful businesswoman, she's obviously well aware of what makes a BB winner, and that isn't a manipulative or calculating bitch. She's being honest, considerate (as we saw when Casey was upset) and says what's on her mind - everything the public love. Luisa is too smart to take on the ultra-bitch attitude as she knows that won't win it for her.”

she's seems manipulative by nature, and she can't turn that off - she was the same on the Apprentice too, and didn't warm to the women on that either - she's not too smart, noone is 'too smart' - she's passive aggressive , and looking out for herself, and don't believe for a minute she's in there to make friends.
AOTB
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by Dave Mac:
“Didn't Liz call her a silly cow or stupid woman or something like that?

She muttered something cheeky anyway. Luisa was quite right to put her in her place.”

Liz called her a 'stupid woman' purely because she wouldn't instantly bow to her demands for decent coffee on the shopping list. She also said it slightly under her breath as she started to back away but Luisa heard it and dealt with it promptly and directly, as any adult should do IMO.

She certainly wasn't snapping at her, and even if she had, it would have been entirely justified. If anything she could have easily kicked off far more.

The bias/ negative slant against Luisa on here already is pretty apparent. (am not talking about the poster who said snapping btw as I know they said they weren't sure).
Fairy Wings
09-01-2014
To be fair though didn't Liz say all she wanted was coffee and that the meat eaters had spent oodles of money? I think she may have just been anxious that she got the one thing she wanted.
AOTB
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by Fairy Wings:
“To be fair though didn't Liz say all she wanted was coffee and that the meat eaters had spent oodles of money? I think she may have just been anxious that she got the one thing she wanted.”

Which is fair enough of course. Instantly calling her a 'stupid woman' in front of everyone gathered round the shopping board however? Not so much. Totally uncalled for.

IMO Luisa dealt with it swiftly and effectively and more power to her for it. Excellent work.
YesNoMan
09-01-2014
Sudden outbursts of overblown, irrational loathing? Liz Jones?


Luisa meets everything head on. It's why she evolved oversized eyes too high up on her face.
jeanoj
09-01-2014
From what I saw on the Apprentice, Luisa does nothing unless it benefits her. I see her as having an ulterior motive in everything she does and says. She is desperate to win but I hope she doesn't. She is very aware of how this programme works and will be aware of how her actions will come across to the viewers.
EnricoIV
09-01-2014
I always find this message board, and people's reactions to the housemates so interesting. Being American, I don't really know any of these "celebrities." However, I did see The Apprentice, so I know Luisa. I hated her on there.

However, I don't think she's done a thing wrong on this show. She's been very fair and even-handed, and doesn't seem at all to be doing things out of self-serving intentions. I don't find her desperate to win -- certainly not like Dappy, Lee, Jim, Linda, Lionel, all seem to be. I'm quite liking her.
themightypierre
09-01-2014
I liked how she dealt with Liz. Assertive and to the point. the jury is still out for me on her and Lee. I don't think she has any loyalty to anybody. She will twist whatever to suit her situation. Which is fine. I just wouldn't cast her as a saint.

Also she is head and shoulders the sexiest woman in there. Sorry but that counts for me.
fifilapew
09-01-2014
I really liked the way she dealt with the 'triangle'. I think up to that point she and jasmine had only heard lee's side of the story re Casey. When she realised that lee had been economical with the truth she called him out on it.

Good for her.
TerryM22
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by Jacs75:
“It is nice to see she is not permanently attached to Jasmine it could have been her downfall.”

It certainly could.
What name??
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by gcmac:
“I like that she was the only one that actually made it clear to Lee what he was doing. She seemed considerate of both sides. She's clearly not a push over and knows how to have fun, but also get her way.”

Agreed. She seems reasonable and balanced
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